The Official Lotto Results Thread

Kingster

Hall of Famer
#62
This just sucks. You can't trade this pick. Who in their right mind is going to trade you a good player for #7? Not a chance in hell. Yeah, I know, they'll trade you their Francisco Garcia equivalent for our #7.:rolleyes: You're stuck wallowing in the mire. It's all about trades/FA now. Exchanging FA $ for a player you want. There aren't any FAs who look intersting enough to bid on them outright.

What really rubs acid in the wound on this is Cleveland and Utah with infinitesimal odds getting the #1 and #3 pick. You could play ESPN draft lottery forever and not come up with that outcome.
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#63
Have you gotten a chance to see Vesley? If you have I would like to know what you think of the kid.



What kind of package would it take to get Iguodala? Isn't he making near max money? We would have to send them some of our bigger contracts to make the deal work. I would love to get Iguodala I just wonder if Philly would be interested in a package that involves Garcia or Beno.
Nope, we are miles under the cap, so we don't have to send them any contracts at all if we/they don't want to -- you only have to match if yo are over the cap. Advantage of being smart financialy the last few years. We can splurge here if we so choose.
 
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#64
washington had the arenas fiasco and get the #1 pick, now the lebron fiasco and so convienently they get the #1 pick......
Its a transparent process with team representatives and media members in the room.

Nope, we are miles under the cap, so we don't have to send them any contracts at all if we/they don't wantto. Advantage of being smart financialy the last few years. We can splurge here if we so choose.
Good times. So what do you think it would take to land him? The pick + Omri and JT?
 
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#65
Top 5 I could get excited about. 7 sucks. No way around it.
Not suprised. Although I told myself I wouldn't get p*ssed this year. Yeah, that didn't happen. My gf wants to know how they can get screwed when it is ping pong balls being selected. Her analysis didn't make me feel better.
 

Spike

Subsidiary Intermediary
Staff member
#66
Good times. So what do you think it would take to land him? The pick + Omri and JT?
I think Omri + the pick might do it. He's pretty marketable to the right team/fanbase. I don't know that we'd have to send off JT as well - it would deplete the front court.
 
#67
Let me get this straight. We won a coin flip with the jazz in order to get better chances of moving up in the draft... only to have the Jazz get the #3 and we get the #7...... what a load of bull. I'm starting to believe the only way for us to move up or even stay still in the draft spots is to own every single draft selection.... and even then I bet the NBA would find a way to screw us.
 

rainmaker

Hall of Famer
#68
Have you gotten a chance to see Vesley? If you have I would like to know what you think of the kid.



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I have. Not to the extent I've seen Kanter though. I do see some similarities between Ves and AK47, but mostly on defense. He's a competitor, and plays very aggressively on both ends. Almost 7', long wingspan, and pretty athletic for a wing. Similar to Donte as well, but attacks the paint much more in the games I've seen. Doesn't settle for jumpers. Not much of a post game. Decent spot up shooter. I have a good friend who lives in Belgrade, and watches him frequently, and he says his spot up shot has really improved this year.

Along with AK, he does have similarities with Donte. The difference, and why I wouldn't mind taking him, is his mentality. He's naturally very aggressive, the opposite of Donte. He'd by a project, but his mentality gives me confidence. It would take time for him to contribute offensively, but I actually think he'd help defensively pretty early in the year, and he'd be a versatile defender. Could guard sf's, and stretch 4's.
 
#72
Its not a conspiracy theory its just bad luck. Oh well. We can still salvage the sitaution. We have quite a few main pieces in place already. You all need to chin up and smile lol.
 
#74
Let me get this straight. We won a coin flip with the jazz in order to get better chances of moving up in the draft... only to have the Jazz get the #3 and we get the #7...... what a load of bull. I'm starting to believe the only way for us to move up or even stay still in the draft spots is to own every single draft selection.... and even then I bet the NBA would find a way to screw us.
Well if we somehow got every single draft selection, I'm sure the NBA would WANT to screw us :p

I think we all knew Cleveland would win it after last summer. But I'm not upset as some of you here, mainly because I just didn't believe we were getting a top 3 pick this year unlike past years. 7 really sucks but we already have youth, we should trade it and hope to put a package together for a AI or Granger type of player, as has been discussed.
 

rainmaker

Hall of Famer
#75
we could trade Omri, 7th the 36th and 60th and they prob would say no to trading us Iggy.
That would be counterproductive. The main attraction to Phily, as Brick has said, is the cap space. Iggy comes off the books. They dont have to take anything back in return, which gives them more options. They'd get Omri(a young prosect at the 3, which they could use,and his Israeli following), the 7th pick(another young prospect on a rookie deal), and $9-10M in cap space, which is the most important part. Philly wants flexibility. We can give it to them.
 
#76
I really don't understand the fascination with Vesely. He has poor 3pt %'s, poor ft%'s, mediocre rebounding numbers, mediocre shot blocking numbers, poor ball handling, and he's already 21 years old. He's 6'11, there's no way he's going to stick at the 3 for long term, and he doesn't nearly have the skills to play the 4. He's a 21 year old project tweener forward.
 
#77
I think Omri + the pick might do it. He's pretty marketable to the right team/fanbase. I don't know that we'd have to send off JT as well - it would deplete the front court.
I hope you're right, because I would do that deal in a second. I would even do a deal involving JT. Having a quality third big is a nice luxury, but Igloudala is such a good fit with his play making and defense.

I have. Not to the extent I've seen Kanter though. I do see some similarities between Ves and AK47, but mostly on defense. He's a competitor, and plays very aggressively on both ends. Almost 7', long wingspan, and pretty athletic for a wing. Similar to Donte as well, but attacks the paint much more in the games I've seen. Doesn't settle for jumpers. Not much of a post game. Decent spot up shooter. I have a good friend who lives in Belgrade, and watches him frequently, and he says his spot up shot has really improved this year.

Along with AK, he does have similarities with Donte. The difference, and why I wouldn't mind taking him, is his mentality. He's naturally very aggressive, the opposite of Donte. He'd by a project, but his mentality gives me confidence. It would take time for him to contribute offensively, but I actually think he'd help defensively pretty early in the year, and he'd be a versatile defender. Could guard sf's, and stretch 4's.
Appreciate the breakdown. Sounds like a intriguing prospect due to his size and mentality. Like a lot of fans I'm interested in winning now, so I'm skeptical about drafting another prospect. Should be interesting to see what Petrie does with the pick in his biggest off season in over a decade.
 

rainmaker

Hall of Famer
#78
I really don't understand the fascination with Vesely. He has poor 3pt %'s, poor ft%'s, mediocre rebounding numbers, mediocre shot blocking numbers, poor ball handling, and he's already 21 years old. He's 6'11, there's no way he's going to stick at the 3 for long term, and he doesn't nearly have the skills to play the 4. He's a 21 year old project tweener forward.
Have you seen him play? You don't sound like you have, and are just speculating based off someones elses opinion.
 
#87
Have you seen him play? You don't sound like you have, and are just speculating based off someones elses opinion.
I've seen him about 2 or 3 times, but whether I've seen a player or not, I always take in multiple different opinions of them. There's a reason I'm not a professional scout.
 
#88
I was always leaning towards trading the pick for some veteran help. Now I am certain that it needs to be traded for Igoudala. Resign, Dalembert, Thornton, add Igoudala and a couple of other heady veterans that will add some leadership and long range shooting and we are set.
That sounds like the 76ers ... lol
 

Tetsujin

The Game Thread Dude
#90
Sheesh who dropped the negative bomb?

I know this is the third year that we've wound up with craptastic draft position in the context of our record but this pick doesn't matter as much as the other two years. We don't need another star, we need someone who can produce and given Geoff Petrie's track record, we'll probably get that (Douby aside).

Interesting in terms of parallels, 1998 was a lockout year and also the year we nabbed a solid (if not erratic) player with the 7th pick of the draft (J-Will) and used our cap space to sign a key player to our success (Vlade) The rest as they say is history. Let's hope that the parallels continue, eh?

So everyone, calm down, untie that noose, put down your shotguns, and take your heads out of the oven. All will be well.


PS: Could someone seriously tell the Maloofs to shut up for five minutes?