Grades v. Bucks 12/19/09

Kings player of the game?

  • Jason Thompson

    Votes: 20 17.1%
  • Tyreke Evans

    Votes: 86 73.5%
  • Beno Udrih

    Votes: 10 8.5%
  • Kenny Thomas

    Votes: 1 0.9%

  • Total voters
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#31
Beno is solid this season. I can see the guard playing time split between Tyreke, Kevin, and Beno. I can't wait to see that. Beno, the next Bobby Jackson, and maybe even better.
What I really love about Beno is that he doesn't care that he's coming off the bench. That tells me a lot about him as far as where his heart is this year!
 

VF21

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#32
As good as Tyreke was, and as obvious his selection of "player of the game" should probably be, my vote went to Beno. He was remarkable out there, totally involved the entire time, doing a good job on defense and playing within his game while giving the Bucks fits.
 

CruzDude

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#33
This was THE game on the road the Kings needed. After their flop of Friday night, this turnaround was their Red Bull of the trip. Still made the silly, rookie mistakes but when it counted they came thru and beat a team on same level as the Kings. Bulls next who are 10-15 (Kings now 12-14). They win two in a row on the road....................WOW, are they ever off and running. And with 2 rookies starting with 2 second year guys and one Vet, Noce (that was Friday) and 2 rooks and 1 second year guy tonight, this is real progress.

GO KINGS ! !
 
#34
Tyreke was the player of the game in my opinion, but I must say that Jennings reminds me of a younger Allen Iverson. He is very quick, and has a sweet shot.

Today was my first time watching Jennings and I have to say that I was impressed. He's good. Lighting quick and an excellent passer. Crisp passes. Obviously Jennings has a ton more experience at PG than Tyreke but Tyreke could learn from him.

With that said, Tyreke makes his team better in his own way. He already gets the superstar treatment from other teams, drawing double and triple teams. Teams are now focused on shutting him down, and making the other Kings players beat them. Teams are packing the lane and just daring the Kings players to shoot from outside. Kings players just need to make their open shots. The strategy worked well for Minnesota last night when the Kings couldn't shoot right.
 
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bajaden

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#39
Jennings was very good tonight, but then I expected him to be after reading all his press clippings. I think Beno deserves a big pat on the back for his defense on Jennings, who is not easy to stay in front of. So if I have to make a comparison of Evans and Jennings, this is all I have to say. Every time Tyreke had the ball he was doubled and everyone collasped into the middle. When Jennings had the ball we played him man to man. No knock on Jennings, but thats all you need to know.

The defense on Tyreke is also affecting Thompsons game. With the other team packing the middle all the time to keep Tyreke out, its also making it difficult for Thompson to get any space in there. He needs to take the little 15 foot jumper more often to keep them honest. I'm not sure why JT wasn't involved in the offense more in the first half. They were running the ball through him to start the playes, and the times the ball did come back to him he usually passed it to someone that he thought was open. The thing is, he was open some of those times. He should have shot the ball. Sometimes you can be too unselfish.
 
#41
“When there is no peril in the fight there is no glory in the triumph.” -- Pierre Corneille

Boxscore


Nocioni ( C ) -- Came out in the third for some more invisible work, this time without many numbers of any kind, and was gone halfway through the quarter, replaced by Beno, and I don't think ever returned. Nor do I think he was terribly pleased about it. Get the feeling he's actually moving a little toward grumpy Noc here, maybe about minutes or whatnot, but they say winning cures many ills. Or at least covers them up.
Noc came in w/20 seconds to go when JT hit the jump hook for the lead. He looked pretty active in cheering on the team throughout the game. Also even though he never touched the ball in the possession, he was very active in attacking the basket for a potential board. Not characteristics of a sulking player I don't think.
 
#42
What we're starting to see are which players can play well consistently and which players can't. I'm disappointed in Donte and Sergio who had some highlights but can't sustain it. Going forward, all we need is a center.
Are you aware that Sergio didn't play at all at this game?


And if going back then I'll remind that it all started because of the bad game at Portland, where he really wasn't good forcing some things, like he wanted to show something to his previous teammates (and he wasn't the only one who didn't play well there btw).
Then they started to play with his confidence. At the next game he already didn't play until the end of 3rd quarter and played only 5 minutes, in which despite being effected by being benched before that and without doing something brilliant, he helped the Kings with his game-style to make a run, but was replaced after the TO.
Before the previous game I already had feeling about what was going to happen next. Take in account that he comes from 3 years that, lets say , didn't built his confidence. And being a team player and at the same time thinking about his situation doesn't work well.
 
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#45
I don't like telling Brick how to do his job, but I think Evans deserves the A. He basically won the game twice: First on the inbounds steal/no call on Bogut, and then with the lay up (also had the buzzer beater to end the first half). He's just clutch.

Also, I think Westphal deserves credit for drawing up that last play. Normally game winning shots are off balance jumpers, so I can just imagine him saying "Tyreke, just go in there, dribble around some guys and get a lay up." Only Evans could pull that one off.
LOL. Here's Evans post-game quote on the Kings website. http://fullcourtpress.kingsconnect.com/archives/4765

Coach told me it was my time to go out and make a play and I did it.
:D
 
#46
As good as Tyreke was, and as obvious his selection of "player of the game" should probably be, my vote went to Beno. He was remarkable out there, totally involved the entire time, doing a good job on defense and playing within his game while giving the Bucks fits.


I agree with Plumas Forrest Lady!.

Beno is my Player of the Game

No Beno = No win-o
 
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#48
the most annoying thing tonight was the amount of 24-second violations.... at one point i was screaming for someone, anyone to take a shot. they just kept passing until the the shot-clock expired.... lol :)
 
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Kingsguy881

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#50
Quote of the day:

".......a guy like Tyreke Evans, a nascient superstar, can beat you on a B night."

And he's the second youngest player in the game today. Stupendous.
 
#51
Could any of us have imagined, back in pre-season, that a short list of Player of the Game candidates in a winning effort would include Beno and KT? Sorta tells you something about this team and this coach.
 

Kingster

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#52
Which is why I was wondering why Coach Westphal went out of his way to say the Kings could not have won without Hawes. :confused: I thought he had a bad game. I could see he was trying though and so maybe that is it. But you would think the coach would know if Hawes played well so I must not be seeing what it is he is doing well. Coach knows his team better than me. JT certainly is becoming a consistent and effective Big. Glad we have JT to go in low and get us a few baskets.
Stats don't alway tell the story. I think Westphal was looking at the game, not the stat sheet.
 
#53
Spencer didn't get many rebounds, but Bogut's FG % was down 20 from his season average, which was probably the stat that decided the game.

Spence doesn't deserve all the credit for that, but some of it.
 

bajaden

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#55
I loved Westphal's quote on about the last play of the game. Talking about Tyreke. " He's uncoachable! I told him to use all the time on the clock, and he left 9/10's of a second on it." :D

I know Thompson has been mentioned, but I don't think he's gotten the kudo's he deserves. He helped keep the team in the game in the fourth quarter, and made a tough shot to give us the lead just prior to the end of the game. He also doesn't get enough credit for setting good picks and handing the ball off. If he doesn't pick Jennings on that last play, the outcome may have been different. Sometimes its the little things that don't show up on the stat sheet that help you win games.

Of course if it wasn't Evans he was handing off to, that outcome probably would have been different too.:)
 
#58
Yes, and why? Because he's been horrible lately. Which was my point.
What is lately?
He had one horrible game in Portland (the game before he was brilliant) after which he already was benched, played only 5 minutes late in the game at which the Kings made their run.
It was already a statement for him that he has no right even for one bad game, while other players do.

Players are not robots. I'm repeating myself, but Sergio came to the Kings after 3 years where he was being benched after every mistake, so of course such things effect him. I think everybody saw that.
 
#59
What is lately?
He had one horrible game in Portland (the game before he was brilliant) after which he already was benched, played only 5 minutes late in the game at which the Kings made their run.
It was already a statement for him that he has no right even for one bad game, while other players do.

Players are not robots. I'm repeating myself, but Sergio came to the Kings after 3 years where he was being benched after every mistake, so of course such things effect him. I think everybody saw that.
Chill:) The Kings won, it ain't about one guy.

KB
 
#60
Chill:) The Kings won, it ain't about one guy.

KB
Well, I don't try to hide that we have different prospective. I'm not Kings fan right know, but I guess a lot of Kings' fans became Kings' fans somewhere in the past as result of liking a certain players (Webber, Divac etc), and only later got attached to the team.

Anyway, if all the other players keep playing well and the Kings continue to win every game (and the margins don't matter), then you are right from your prospective.
But if at some game one of the other players won't play well and they'll need somebody from the bench and won't have Sergio because you already lost him, then maybe you'll think otherwise.
 
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