Kings’ Tyreke Evans Named Western Conference Rookie Of The Month For October/november
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im not fighting for him, i wanted petrie to draft him... he didnt. end of story... look through my posts, where do i ever say anything about him other than the fact that he would be a better pg than evans? most of my posts are more about how evans isnt a pg than anything about he who shall remain nameless... im so gonna run with that name though... i dont know why its such a big deal to anyone. if i said his name all of the time posters would complain that i talk about him too much. though they are the ones who bring his name in to the conversation.
in all of my years of posting here i have never seen a non-kings player be mentioned in almost every thread in the kings rap section. the personnel section is understandable but here?
my feelings werent hurt when petrie drafted evans, im used to it now... i wanted arenas, we got wallace... i wanted sergio, we got douby... it happens. but the e-beef between evans and he who shall remain nameless is on the same level as the peja/webber beef we had back in the day. and i dont even know why we are having the beef. its probably because the evans lovers have realized the fact that he isnt a pg but still want a reason to argue in his behalf...
in all of my years of posting here i have never seen a non-kings player be mentioned in almost every thread in the kings rap section. the personnel section is understandable but here?
my feelings werent hurt when petrie drafted evans, im used to it now... i wanted arenas, we got wallace... i wanted sergio, we got douby... it happens. but the e-beef between evans and he who shall remain nameless is on the same level as the peja/webber beef we had back in the day. and i dont even know why we are having the beef. its probably because the evans lovers have realized the fact that he isnt a pg but still want a reason to argue in his behalf...
It's a bit difficult to infer the meaning of some of your posts. To the laymen it may seem that your soul intent is to bash Evans and his supporters (and you have with this underlined portion). To me it seems as though you are unnecessarily struggling to defend your right to a differing opinion on Rubio's / Evans's ceilings.
Your right to this opinion is not really under attack, you can believe Rubio will be better than Evans. That's completely reasonable. Some of us just prefer to believe Evans is / will be better than Rubio. I am personally in the camp that believes they are different players, Evans will be the better combo guard with better overall skills, and Rubio may be the better pure PG. Who would have been better for our team? This answer to this question is pure conjecture, and does not warrant the dog fight you are pouring so much energy into.
This is just an observation. You can do whatever you want. I just wanted to give my opinion.
Your right to this opinion is not really under attack, you can believe Rubio will be better than Evans. That's completely reasonable. Some of us just prefer to believe Evans is / will be better than Rubio. I am personally in the camp that believes they are different players, Evans will be the better combo guard with better overall skills, and Rubio may be the better pure PG. Who would have been better for our team? This answer to this question is pure conjecture, and does not warrant the dog fight you are pouring so much energy into.
This is just an observation. You can do whatever you want. I just wanted to give my opinion.
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and thats the problem... ive never attacked anyone for opinion their of evans... i dont think he will be a pg and thats it. thats it... i think sergio is a better pg than evans, not a better player but definitely a better pg. if he werent on this team i would be jumped on by half of the posters here for saying that.
but since im not on the evans bandwagon im the bad guy... like i said this is worse than the peja/webber beef... because i dont see where any of the supposed he who shall remain nameless supporters have ever jumped on anyones case.
i have issues with the level of competition that we have played in our wins and all of a sudden its an attack on evans. we beat a bad team at home and all of a sudden im not a real kings fan because we beat the hornets at home without chris paul. all of a sudden because people here have a man crush on evans im the one who isnt a real fan, eventhough ive been here longer than most if not all of them and i havent changed my tune since i got here.
are you serious?
Your legend precedes you, everyone baits you so they can get a kick out of your ranting (I know you're not the only one they do this to). Why do you frequently play along? To say that you've never attacked anyone for their opinion of Evans, and completely ignore the fact that you just compared all of his supporters who believe him to be an adequate point guard to clingy, lonely women is revisionist history at its finest. You can't twist that.
I agree with you 80% of the time. I just wanted to point out that posts like the above mentioned are the reason why you constantly get such a hard time.
Hmmpph... I am going to bow out. I have no real interest in this argument, just an interest in the intention of the posters involved.
I agree with you 80% of the time. I just wanted to point out that posts like the above mentioned are the reason why you constantly get such a hard time.
Hmmpph... I am going to bow out. I have no real interest in this argument, just an interest in the intention of the posters involved.
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oh i agree with you...
but the clingy girlfriend thing was true though...they have evans in a choke hold and wont let him go. if they get on my case for that i cant complain. but if i say that evans will be a bad pg but a really good sg, im attacking his character and we have 3 page arguments... thats my only issue... we can argue because i insulted them with an off hand comment. thats cool, i deserve it. but this?
but the clingy girlfriend thing was true though...they have evans in a choke hold and wont let him go. if they get on my case for that i cant complain. but if i say that evans will be a bad pg but a really good sg, im attacking his character and we have 3 page arguments... thats my only issue... we can argue because i insulted them with an off hand comment. thats cool, i deserve it. but this?
Very interesting data. You've got guys at the top who are great, and guys on the bottom who are great. Now if Tyreke can have the same improvement as Nash did after his rookie year, then I think we're set.
Of all the stats, the one that interests me the most is rebounds. Westbrook (4.9), Tyreke (5.0), Paul (5.1) and Kidd (5.4) fall into a distinct group, with a large dropoff after that. The next highest is a grouping of Iverson (4.1), Rose (3.9) and Jennings (3.9). The reason this intrigues me is that point production doesn't seem to be a significant indicator for future success (Nash and Fisher are examples of being low point producers and having very successful later careers). Assists don't either - Tinsley was 8.1 and he's not great and Nash was 2.1 and he is (although you can make a case that his minutes had much to do with that). But all the great rebounders are successful. (I'd argue Westbrook is on his way to being an All-Star in the not too distant future). Paul is amazing. For a guy that small to have 5.1 rebs per game is absurd.
Of all the stats, the one that interests me the most is rebounds. Westbrook (4.9), Tyreke (5.0), Paul (5.1) and Kidd (5.4) fall into a distinct group, with a large dropoff after that. The next highest is a grouping of Iverson (4.1), Rose (3.9) and Jennings (3.9). The reason this intrigues me is that point production doesn't seem to be a significant indicator for future success (Nash and Fisher are examples of being low point producers and having very successful later careers). Assists don't either - Tinsley was 8.1 and he's not great and Nash was 2.1 and he is (although you can make a case that his minutes had much to do with that). But all the great rebounders are successful. (I'd argue Westbrook is on his way to being an All-Star in the not too distant future). Paul is amazing. For a guy that small to have 5.1 rebs per game is absurd.
He can't see it because his gigantic ego doesn't allow him to!
Quite simply he is wrong, he knows he is wrong but he is not man enough to admit that he is wrong and will try to find ways to prove his point without actually realising that he is just digging a bigger and bigger hole for himself.
A classic case of egoist
Quite simply he is wrong, he knows he is wrong but he is not man enough to admit that he is wrong and will try to find ways to prove his point without actually realising that he is just digging a bigger and bigger hole for himself.
A classic case of egoist
Aries, while I am with you on the Evans is not a PG thing, I don't think it's fair to say that you have not brought up anything other than that. I'm referring to the thing on Tyreke's stats and the comparison to LBJ. I know in your head the team is just doing as well as you'd expected, and you expected tyreke to be putting up these kind of numbers and thus you aren't giving him any credit. You also in fact attributed the teams success to Beno and not tyreke, when Evans has clearly made a very significant impact.
I'm totally fine with agreeing with you on not calling Evans a PG. Provided you start giving credit where it's due. To me, "he's playing how he's supposed to play" shouldn't be an excuse not to give props to a damn good rookie that we are fortunate enough to haave
I'm totally fine with agreeing with you on not calling Evans a PG. Provided you start giving credit where it's due. To me, "he's playing how he's supposed to play" shouldn't be an excuse not to give props to a damn good rookie that we are fortunate enough to haave
