and with the #1 pick in the 2009 NBA draft the Kings select...
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This is how the Kings did in the simulator that I did.. 10 times...
1. Kings #4 pick - OKC #1
2. Kings #4 pick - LAC #1
3. Kings #1 pick
4. Kings #3 pick - OKC #1
5. Kings #4 pick - WAS #1
6. Kings #2 pick - OKC #1
7. Kings #4 pick - MIN #1
8. Kings #1 pick
9. Kings #4 pick - MEM #1
10. Kings #4 pick - MIN #1
JEEBUS!!! We get the #1 only 2 times, the #2 only 1 time, the #3 only 1 time, and the #4 we get SIX times!!!
I must have horrible luck or something.. SIGH!
edit: did it another 10 times for the heck of it and the #4 came up five more times =/ Dang.. I have a feeling it's #4 for the Kings.
This is how the Kings did in the simulator that I did.. 10 times...
1. Kings #4 pick - OKC #1
2. Kings #4 pick - LAC #1
3. Kings #1 pick
4. Kings #3 pick - OKC #1
5. Kings #4 pick - WAS #1
6. Kings #2 pick - OKC #1
7. Kings #4 pick - MIN #1
8. Kings #1 pick
9. Kings #4 pick - MEM #1
10. Kings #4 pick - MIN #1
JEEBUS!!! We get the #1 only 2 times, the #2 only 1 time, the #3 only 1 time, and the #4 we get SIX times!!!
I must have horrible luck or something.. SIGH!
edit: did it another 10 times for the heck of it and the #4 came up five more times =/ Dang.. I have a feeling it's #4 for the Kings.
First off, let me say that I never said he was immature. I said he was more mature than I expected. I was giving him a complement. I don't know about you, but when I was eighteen, I was pretty stupid. Enough said about that.
I've watched basketball for a long time, and two things that I don't get too excited about as negatives, are shooting ability and defense. When we only drafted seniors, I would say that 90% of them couldn't play defense at the NBA level. The percentages are even worse now with the younger players. There have been countless players that wern't good shooters coming out of college, and several years later they had improved dramaticly.
Karl Malone was a terrible freethrow shooter and had no outside shot at all when he came into the league. Magic Johnson had no outside shot when he came into the league. Some became good enough to keep people honest. Some became very good shooters. Michael Jordan had a decent midrange game, but nothing beyond that. I won't bring up Jason Kidd.
I believe that if a player has good instincts and a feel for the game, combined with good court vision and great athletic ability, he can be taught the rest, as long as he has the desire and commitment.
I've watched basketball for a long time, and two things that I don't get too excited about as negatives, are shooting ability and defense. When we only drafted seniors, I would say that 90% of them couldn't play defense at the NBA level. The percentages are even worse now with the younger players. There have been countless players that wern't good shooters coming out of college, and several years later they had improved dramaticly.
Karl Malone was a terrible freethrow shooter and had no outside shot at all when he came into the league. Magic Johnson had no outside shot when he came into the league. Some became good enough to keep people honest. Some became very good shooters. Michael Jordan had a decent midrange game, but nothing beyond that. I won't bring up Jason Kidd.
I believe that if a player has good instincts and a feel for the game, combined with good court vision and great athletic ability, he can be taught the rest, as long as he has the desire and commitment.
Didn't mean to imply that you meant that (I can see how you would think that, my bad for phrasing it poorly), just some people have implied that.
I'm not fretting over his defense, the way the game is played now and all these stupid new rules, PG defense has become mostly non-existent; the tools are there to be decent and that's about as much as you can ask these days. The big question marks for me are his ability to faciliate in the half-court, his decision making, and his strength.
I'm not fretting over his defense, the way the game is played now and all these stupid new rules, PG defense has become mostly non-existent; the tools are there to be decent and that's about as much as you can ask these days. The big question marks for me are his ability to faciliate in the half-court, his decision making, and his strength.
I would rather get Griffin or Rubio over Harden, and IMO it isn't even close. I think Harden will be a good player, but I don't think he has the potential that Griffin or Rubio has. And Jennings is the wildcard in this draft. He has the talent to be a top 10 pg down the road, but I could also see him turning into another Telfair.
Well of course -- there is a 36% chance we get "jipped." But I'm still pretty steady in thinking there are 4 unique talents of note in this draft (Griffin, Rubio, Thabeet, Jennings) and maybe even a 5th wildcard (Evans). So worst case we're still getting a player who I think could help.
I'm also interested in where the other teams end up picking -- still interested in that Washington pick for instance.
I'm also interested in where the other teams end up picking -- still interested in that Washington pick for instance.
Griffin has a nice 3 point stroke?? Draft him. Now. 3 years ago I watched Drew Gooden warming up for the Bulls v the Magic. He hit 13 threes in a row. All over the court. How many does he shoot a game? Why? Because there is a huge difference when there is a defender on you and when you're wide open with no . I've hit 15 in a row with my little brother throwing to me. I hate these little "updates" or revelations about playes. We've seen the guy dominate for two years. No way in hell he's drafted for his "improved stroke from 3" Any GM to use that as a deciding factor should go work for the Clippers.
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I agee. Most of the rule changes were intended to make things easier for the offensive player. I wish they would at least allow handchecking for the perimiter players.
As far as his ability to faciliate in the half-court, I would tend to think it must have at least improved. Thats about all they play over there. Its hard to get read on someone that plays in europe and then only plays limited minutes. Even NBA scouts have complained about flying all the way over there and then seeing him play for 12 minutes in a game, or perhaps not play at all.
I suspect that the team workouts will do a lot to determine his ranking in the draft.
As far as his ability to faciliate in the half-court, I would tend to think it must have at least improved. Thats about all they play over there. Its hard to get read on someone that plays in europe and then only plays limited minutes. Even NBA scouts have complained about flying all the way over there and then seeing him play for 12 minutes in a game, or perhaps not play at all.
I suspect that the team workouts will do a lot to determine his ranking in the draft.
He may have, but I wouldn't know because the games I saw he was only facilitating in transition, when they were in the set, he became a scorer for them. He probably learned more about half court offense there in practice than he would have at Arizona. Still, it's a weakness in his game.
Yeah, I suspect things to change around a lot, this draft is going to make my head spin.
Yeah, I suspect things to change around a lot, this draft is going to make my head spin.
I really want us to get Griffin or Rubio like everyone else on this board, but my perfect scenario is this and it makes so much sense and I hope it happens. I would like to see us get the number 1 pick and have either the Thunder or Minnesota be the team with the number 2 pick. Then I would have us take Blake Griffin and the number 2 team pick Rubio. We make the swap for Rubio and their remaining picks. The thunder have I believe 1 or 2 more picks in the first round and Minnesota does as well. I think this is a better way of rounding out a team and making us a lot more competitive quicker. We'd have rubio and a total of 4 1st round picks and if we have to throw in that second in the swap of players then so be it. I would honestly rather see this scenario than just getting Rubio or Griffin. Problem is A we have to get the 1st pick and B we need to have Minnesota or the Thunder get the 2nd pick. This is going to be interesting either way and I think Chris Webber knows something we don't know him and the Maloofs. Remember that comment about him bringing the number 1 back home. Lets hope so
Really hoping Washington ends up in the 3 or 4 spot. That's where the major talent drops off and they would be more likely to trade that pick for cap/tax relief and a vet like Nocioni. Thabeet should be there at that point. It would allow us to get our flashy, sell tickets guy with our pick (Griffin, Rubio, maybe Jennings) plus fill a gaping hole in our team that Thabeet would fill.
I'm actually getting pretty impressed by what I'm reading about Jennings. A project, maybe? But star potential, absolutely. Aaron Brooks performance against the Lakers as a whole is impressive, and Jennings is much more physically/athletically gifted. His speed is what has me intrigued, especially since the Princeton, even if a modified version, can benefit a great deal from having a point that can attack the lane.
http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Brandon-Jennings-Biding-his-Time-in-Rome-3212/
The vast improvement in his maturity level is encouraging as well. I've gotten to a point where I wont feel as bad if we get the #3 or #4 pick. We're going to get something that will help our team regardless.
http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Brandon-Jennings-Biding-his-Time-in-Rome-3212/
The vast improvement in his maturity level is encouraging as well. I've gotten to a point where I wont feel as bad if we get the #3 or #4 pick. We're going to get something that will help our team regardless.
