Its never a sure thing. But the Raiders left because of the aging LA Coliseum and couldn't get a new stadium built. The Rams moved from the Coliseum to the Anaheim stadium and eventually moved because of problems with that as well. These things happen and teams move. With a big part of their business in Vegas, I doubt the Maloofs want to move too far away.
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Its never a sure thing. But the Raiders left because of the aging LA Coliseum and couldn't get a new stadium built. The Rams moved from the Coliseum to the Anaheim stadium and eventually moved because of problems with that as well. These things happen and teams move. With a big part of their business in Vegas, I doubt the Maloofs want to move too far away.
That argument makes little to no sense. I'm reasonably sure they aren't worried about having to fly from Vegas to Kansas City, for example... And based on their actions in Sacramento, if they did move the team and retain ownership, I'm pretty sure they would want to be as much a part of their new community as they have their current one.
IFthe Kings are removed from Sacramento it's going to be for the location that has the most opportunity for success and not the one most geographically convenient. Unless, of course, you figure the bullet train from Vegas to Disneyland in the economic stimulus package is there for the convenience of the Maloofs.
IFthe Kings are removed from Sacramento it's going to be for the location that has the most opportunity for success and not the one most geographically convenient. Unless, of course, you figure the bullet train from Vegas to Disneyland in the economic stimulus package is there for the convenience of the Maloofs.
Every city has a good chunk of people that only supports the team if they win. Economic conditions alone does not explain the huge drop in attendence for the Kings at Arco. Television ratings have dropped also.
The truth is people are like that everywhere, not just Sac or OC. People like to support winners. Remember the yr that Shaq left the lakers and they didn't even make the playoffs? That yr's attendence at staples went down for the first time and the TV ratings fell 20%. Even the lakers are not immune if they don't win.
That argument makes little to no sense. I'm reasonably sure they aren't worried about having to fly from Vegas to Kansas City, for example... And based on their actions in Sacramento, if they did move the team and retain ownership, I'm pretty sure they would want to be as much a part of their new community as they have their current one.
Time is money to a lot of people. But its not about my opinions or yours. Whatever we say here is just opinions. Its up to the Maloofs at the end.
On that we'll agree...it is up to the Maloofs. And I prefer to have faith in what they've said all along - which is all about staying in Sacramento. The whole reason this is such a hot topic right now is that the Bee has, from day one, carried on some kind of "hidden agenda" campaign hinting the Maloofs didn't want to be here, they were really set on moving the team, etc.
I over-react at times, and for that I apologize if I stepped over the line. I just hate to see people apparently willing to buy into some of the Bee hype (and that includes former Bee employees like R.E. Graswich) instead of respecting the Maloofs for what they've done for our city and our Kings and trusting them when they say (to the point of redundancy) that they do not want to leave and will do whatever they can to stay.
I over-react at times, and for that I apologize if I stepped over the line. I just hate to see people apparently willing to buy into some of the Bee hype (and that includes former Bee employees like R.E. Graswich) instead of respecting the Maloofs for what they've done for our city and our Kings and trusting them when they say (to the point of redundancy) that they do not want to leave and will do whatever they can to stay.
Yes some were warrior and laker fans and many of them still are. It was a different time back in 1985. The NBA wasnt as popular then as it is now. I bet if the rams or saints moved here in 1985 many 49er fans would not switch. Also, the Kings were the only ticket in town. Anaheim has the Angels and Ducks already, its a differnt scenario.
No worries, no offense taken. I understand people can be upset about the prospect of losing a team. I do believe the Maloofs when they say stayin in Sac is their first choice. I mean why not? If they can get a new arena and they have a sports monopoly in the city.
Whatever the Maloofs do, I think everyone here on this forum are true fans and not bandwagoners. It takes true fans to actively post and really care about what happens to the team even when they are in last place. For that I commend you and everyone here.
I hope you're right. Having 2 teams in one arena is really stupid.
I'm no lawyer but I'm wondering if Sterling's legal troubles may make him think about selling the team. Lots of stuff from this current Elgin Baylor lawsuit are coming out that paints Sterling as a racist. That's obviously going to make attracting free agents tough. As a result, I wonder if family, legal counsel and Stern himself finally have the clout to convince him to sell. If so, I'm hoping that Samueli puts in a bid right away to get the Clips down to the Honda Center.
I'm no lawyer but I'm wondering if Sterling's legal troubles may make him think about selling the team. Lots of stuff from this current Elgin Baylor lawsuit are coming out that paints Sterling as a racist. That's obviously going to make attracting free agents tough. As a result, I wonder if family, legal counsel and Stern himself finally have the clout to convince him to sell. If so, I'm hoping that Samueli puts in a bid right away to get the Clips down to the Honda Center.
Actually, it can make lots of economic sense if it works geographically, etc. Look at Lakers/Clippers and Jets/Giants. Look at the 49ers and Raiders possibly considering it in the South Bay area.
Changing from one NBA floor to another should be easy - seating, etc., doesn't have to change, only the floor itself. It guarantees another 40+ nights (probably closer to 50-60 with preseason and postseason, etc.) of events. You halve the capital expense between the two teams.
Changing from one NBA floor to another should be easy - seating, etc., doesn't have to change, only the floor itself. It guarantees another 40+ nights (probably closer to 50-60 with preseason and postseason, etc.) of events. You halve the capital expense between the two teams.
Speak for yourself, dude. I will not prepare for a "kingless Sacramento" until the moving vans pull out of town...
Based on the smile on Kevin Johnson's face tonight on the news as he talked about tomorrow's presentation - although he denied knowing what was going to be proposed - I don't think we need to start planning the going-away party quite yet.
Based on the smile on Kevin Johnson's face tonight on the news as he talked about tomorrow's presentation - although he denied knowing what was going to be proposed - I don't think we need to start planning the going-away party quite yet.
NBA today will unveil its plan for a Sacramento Kings arena at Cal Expo
http://www.sacbee.com/topstories/story/1657407.html
a few snippets from the article:
So, at this point, can we please stop with the doom and gloom until we get more details and see how the board reacts?
http://www.sacbee.com/topstories/story/1657407.html
a few snippets from the article:
So, at this point, can we please stop with the doom and gloom until we get more details and see how the board reacts?
It's all smoke and mirrors, nobody will pay for it, the sky is falling, the Kings are leaving, the Maloofs are in secret negotiations to spin off the team into three franchises, one each in San Jose, Anaheim, and Las Vegas, the lottery will be rigged against us anyway and Kobe should eat more cheeseburgers.
Actually, maybe I do believe that last one...
Actually, maybe I do believe that last one...
Just be prepared for no real answer today. The proposal is being presented to the board, however, the board will not vote on whether to accept the proposal until a meeting in March.
Here's a story from the Bee that has information on the general timelines and what happens after today. A few community people were given a glimpe of the proposal and sound fairly positive about the plan. The issue, if course, is can it work in this economy. By the time funding is needed, though, there should be an indication on whether the economy is recovering satisfactorily. It's really a golden opportunity for a developer with guts.
http://sacbee.com/topstories/story/1657407.html
Here's a story from the Bee that has information on the general timelines and what happens after today. A few community people were given a glimpe of the proposal and sound fairly positive about the plan. The issue, if course, is can it work in this economy. By the time funding is needed, though, there should be an indication on whether the economy is recovering satisfactorily. It's really a golden opportunity for a developer with guts.
http://sacbee.com/topstories/story/1657407.html
The answer to that is NO, NO, NO!
And how much do you want to bet that if this proposal is mostly private investment, he'll just find other reasons to be against it? Chicken Little in a bad suit, indeed.
And how much do you want to bet that if this proposal is mostly private investment, he'll just find other reasons to be against it? Chicken Little in a bad suit, indeed.
Actually, Mr. Jones would rather petition for a $500 million dollar courthouse for downtown rather than be pro-active about a new arena...hey, it's already SO much fun prosecuting criminals in the crappy courthouses we already have, might as well take another half billion dollars from the state for another one, right?(I know that went off on a tangent, but I thought it was relevant about Davey Boy.)
Ah, just read about the news blackout on this. But it has been unveiled and we'll hear more about it later today. It did say they wouldnt start construction in 2009.
edit: everyone should read the comments by the peanut gallery below the article, it's nausiating! lol 'Traffic, tax money, traffic, win a championship THIS year to get a new arena, traffic, traffic, taxes' GRRRR!!!!! Get over it people, dont you think the NBA and the City knows about the traffic issues, and if built...the masterplan would include so many new highways, byways, exits that it would make it better than the headache we have right NOW! This proposal does NOT include taxpayer's money either! Oh, and the snide 'win a championshp this year' comments, they obviously dont know ANYTHING about the Kings, and would rather spend money on fish eggs than a new Cal Expo/Arena.
http://www.news10.net/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=55487&catid=2
edit: everyone should read the comments by the peanut gallery below the article, it's nausiating! lol 'Traffic, tax money, traffic, win a championship THIS year to get a new arena, traffic, traffic, taxes' GRRRR!!!!! Get over it people, dont you think the NBA and the City knows about the traffic issues, and if built...the masterplan would include so many new highways, byways, exits that it would make it better than the headache we have right NOW! This proposal does NOT include taxpayer's money either! Oh, and the snide 'win a championshp this year' comments, they obviously dont know ANYTHING about the Kings, and would rather spend money on fish eggs than a new Cal Expo/Arena.
http://www.news10.net/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=55487&catid=2
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