Big Trade Rumor

#2
I like the one with us getting TYRUS THOMAS!!!!!!!!!


Too good to be true.

He's just too atheletic to be mentioned in the same name as the kings.
 
#3
I can't see why the Bulls do this. They give up their PG's for Kobe? So what's their new lineup?

Gordon
Bryant
Deng
Noah/Smith
Wallace

I can't see that team making them any more contenders than the team they have now.

But hell, I like us getting Thomas. :)
 
#6
This isn't the exact rumored deal. It's just the rumored players involved and a deal that DOES WORK on the trade checker. It seems the most fair.

Bulls trade:
Kirk Hinrich
Ben Gordon
Tyrus Thomas
Victor Khryapa

Receive:
Kobe Bryant

Kings trade:
Ron Artest

Receive:
Tyrus Thomas
Victror Khryapa
Jordan Farmar

Lakers trade:
Kobe Bryant
Jordan Farmar

Receive:
Kirk Hinrich
Ben Gordon
Ron Artest
I say the lakers give the Bulls a 1st round pick.
 
#8
This isn't the exact rumored deal. It's just the rumored players involved and a deal that DOES WORK on the trade checker. It seems the most fair.

Bulls trade:
Kirk Hinrich
Ben Gordon
Tyrus Thomas
Victor Khryapa

Receive:
Kobe Bryant

Kings trade:
Ron Artest

Receive:
Tyrus Thomas
Victror Khryapa
Jordan Farmar

Lakers trade:
Kobe Bryant
Jordan Farmar

Receive:
Kirk Hinrich
Ben Gordon
Ron Artest
I say the lakers give the Bulls a 1st round pick.
I first thought the lakers getting Artest back in a Kobe trade makes absolutely no sense, but if it's with Hinrich and Gordon then it makes more sense. With the lakers and bulls involved though I doubt we end up getting a bad return for Artest since they have some good talent we could use.
 
#10
that trade leaves chris duhon to man the point. kobes not gonna be happy about that. hell nix it
I really doubt that. While Duhon at point sucks, having Deng, Noah, and Wallace left over is pretty good; not to mention he's in the eastern conference now and he's out of the craziness that is LA. They'll eventually acquire a decent PG to complete that team.
 
#11
If Artest is going out, I would have thought the idea would be to pair him with Kobe -- but I guess doing so would make the trade impossibly unwieldy. But I really hope something comes out of this -- we so badly need some promising youth around here.
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#13
that trade leaves chris duhon to man the point. kobes not gonna be happy about that. hell nix it

Perhaps. But it also leaves them with this lineup:

PG- Duhon
OG- Kobe
SF- Deng
PF- Noah
C- Wallace

6th- Nocioni

And so yeah, the PG isn't great, but the overall crew is still dangerous.


As for the Lakers...am I the only one who thinks they are making out like bandits here? They acquire THREE starters, and good ones? To team with Odom and maybe Bynum? Have the same problem Chicago has had -- no star to beat the better teams with. But Heinrich/Gordon/Artest/Odom/Bynum with Fisher/Walton/Critterton/Brown/Mihm/Evans/Cook/Radmanovic off the bench is a pretty complete team.
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#14
I'm hoping Hinrich gets swung our way. Hinrich/Martin would be a nice back court for a bunch of years.

Can't ahppen wihtout us sedning out more players (due to salary).

And a kiddie package with either Farmar or Critterton at the PG, and then either Noah or Thomas at PF is a thing of freaking' beauty for us. Fills two holes at once. Khryapa can play too as a SF. Let he and Cisco battle it out.

Assuming that was the deal of course.
 
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#15
Wow....i hope this is not true. So we will be getting two more guys that are 6'9" and average at best and a PG who should still be in college?
 
#16
Can't ahppen wihtout us sedning out more players (due to salary).



And a kiddie package with either Farmar or Critterton at the PG, and then either Noah or Thomas at PF is a thing of freaking' beauty for us. Fills two holes at once. Khryapa can play too as a SF. Let he and Cisco battle it out.


I agree, Crittenton doesn't look like he's cracking their rotation anytime soon but he looked really awesome in summer league, much better than I was expecting. If we were to come out of this with Crittenton and Noah/Thomas it would be a coup.

Something tells me our luck isn't that good.
 

Entity

Hall of Famer
#18
I agree, Crittenton doesn't look like he's cracking their rotation anytime soon but he looked really awesome in summer league, much better than I was expecting. If we were to come out of this with Crittenton and Noah/Thomas it would be a coup.

Something tells me our luck isn't that good.

No the coup would be SAR or KT going out in the deal as well. That would be nice.
 

VF21

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SME
#19
If this doesn't get at least somewhat seconded by a more legitimate source, I think it's about time to move it to the Personnel Moves forum...
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#20
Wow....i hope this is not true. So we will be getting two more guys that are 6'9" and average at best and a PG who should still be in college?
Who's your other 6'9" average guy? Khyrapa, sure. I hope you weren't referring to the #4 pick in last year's draft at PF.
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#21
If this doesn't get at least somewhat seconded by a more legitimate source, I think it's about time to move it to the Personnel Moves forum...

Mayhap just before the game or whatnot so as not to distract? But this one is being discussed on every major board at the moment. Does not mean it happens, as its all based on the one radio report. But its not something that just one person heard appararently.
 
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VF21

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#22
It appears as though the Lakers - at least Magic Johnson - aren't that impressed.

Chicago Sun Times

Deng is a deal-breaker
Magic says Kobe trade won't happen because Bulls won't include forward
October 31, 2007
BY BRIAN HANLEY bhanley@suntimes.com

Bulls general manager John Paxson didn't travel with the team Tuesday to New Jersey, where the Bulls open the season tonight against the Nets.

Paxson had plenty of work to do at home, including trade negotiations with the Los Angeles Lakers for Kobe Bryant. But those talks seemed to have lost some momentum.

Lakers vice president Magic Johnson said the deal isn't going to happen.

''A deal can't get done because they won't include [Luol] Deng,'' Johnson said Tuesday on TNT. ''And without Deng, a deal can't get done.''

Johnson also hinted that talks of bringing Indiana Pacers All-Star Jermaine O'Neal to the Lakers to join Bryant have resurfaced.

Paxson also had to deal with a contract extension for Deng.

Today is the league deadline for Deng and Ben Gordon to sign such extensions. Gordon's asking price is believed to be well more than the team's offer of five years and $50 million.

Johnson said the Bulls and Lakers could not put together a trade that would satisfy the league's money requirement for such a deal. The total salaries of the players sent to Los Angeles for Bryant must be within 15 percent of the $19 million Bryant will make this season.

A source close to the Phoenix Suns shot down a rumored three-team deal that would've had the Bulls landing Bryant, Gordon and the Suns' Shawn Marion going to the Lakers and a package of Tyrus Thomas and other considerations heading to Phoenix.

The Suns source said the team would be interested in discussing such a deal but that Phoenix last talked trade with the Lakers for Bryant some 10 days ago, and the conversation went nowhere.

Mark Bartelstein, the Chicago-based agent for P.J. Brown, said he had not been contacted by the Bulls or any other team to facilitate a sign-and-trade deal for the former Bulls forward to help match money for a Bryant trade.

Deng said he wouldn't agree to the Bulls' current contract-extension offer of five years and $50 million. ''The deadline is just closer; [the offer] is the same thing,'' Deng said. ''I'm pretty sure we'll talk again. I'd rather see it happen.''

Deng, who met with Paxson on Monday, and Gordon would have to wait until next summer, when the pair would be restricted free agents, to negotiate an extension if they fail to come to terms today.

Paxson said he'd withhold comment on the extensions until today.

''Things are fine; they're the same way they've been,'' Deng said of his relationship with Paxson, who likely will not raise his offer substantially. ''It was a good meeting just to know where we both stand and what we both wanted to talk about. I understand it's business.''

Gordon, who indicated Monday he also would not agree to a five-year, $50 million extension, said he didn't worry about what Deng might be offered. Deng said the same of Gordon.

''That's not in the back of my mind at all,'' Deng said. ''I'm not really worried about what's going on with Ben. I just hope the best for him. I hope he gets what he wants. That's the same thing I'm trying to do.

''If he gets more, he gets more. It is what it is.''

Deng said if he doesn't sign an extension today, he wouldn't let it bother him.

''I'm still going to do what I'm supposed to do; I'm trying to be better than I was last year,'' he said. ''It just happens to be my contract year, and you have to negotiate these things. But, as a mind-set, I'm going to go out and try to do what I did last year and just play basketball.''
 
#23
Can't ahppen wihtout us sedning out more players (due to salary).

And a kiddie package with either Farmar or Critterton at the PG, and then either Noah or Thomas at PF is a thing of freaking' beauty for us. Fills two holes at once. Khryapa can play too as a SF. Let he and Cisco battle it out.

Assuming that was the deal of course.
I don't think we'd have a shot at Noah, and LA is said to be absolutely insisting on getting Hinrich. But I agree that getting some youngsters (including a PG) would be the best possible thing for us. And it would mean that we were finally out of "win now" mode, which would be really wonderful news.
 
#26
It appears as though the Lakers - at least Magic Johnson - aren't that impressed.

Chicago Sun Times

Deng is a deal-breaker
Magic says Kobe trade won't happen because Bulls won't include forward
October 31, 2007
BY BRIAN HANLEY bhanley@suntimes.com

Bulls general manager John Paxson didn't travel with the team Tuesday to New Jersey, where the Bulls open the season tonight against the Nets.

Paxson had plenty of work to do at home, including trade negotiations with the Los Angeles Lakers for Kobe Bryant. But those talks seemed to have lost some momentum.

Lakers vice president Magic Johnson said the deal isn't going to happen.

''A deal can't get done because they won't include [Luol] Deng,'' Johnson said Tuesday on TNT. ''And without Deng, a deal can't get done.''

Johnson also hinted that talks of bringing Indiana Pacers All-Star Jermaine O'Neal to the Lakers to join Bryant have resurfaced.

Paxson also had to deal with a contract extension for Deng.

Today is the league deadline for Deng and Ben Gordon to sign such extensions. Gordon's asking price is believed to be well more than the team's offer of five years and $50 million.

Johnson said the Bulls and Lakers could not put together a trade that would satisfy the league's money requirement for such a deal. The total salaries of the players sent to Los Angeles for Bryant must be within 15 percent of the $19 million Bryant will make this season.

A source close to the Phoenix Suns shot down a rumored three-team deal that would've had the Bulls landing Bryant, Gordon and the Suns' Shawn Marion going to the Lakers and a package of Tyrus Thomas and other considerations heading to Phoenix.

The Suns source said the team would be interested in discussing such a deal but that Phoenix last talked trade with the Lakers for Bryant some 10 days ago, and the conversation went nowhere.

Mark Bartelstein, the Chicago-based agent for P.J. Brown, said he had not been contacted by the Bulls or any other team to facilitate a sign-and-trade deal for the former Bulls forward to help match money for a Bryant trade.

Deng said he wouldn't agree to the Bulls' current contract-extension offer of five years and $50 million. ''The deadline is just closer; [the offer] is the same thing,'' Deng said. ''I'm pretty sure we'll talk again. I'd rather see it happen.''

Deng, who met with Paxson on Monday, and Gordon would have to wait until next summer, when the pair would be restricted free agents, to negotiate an extension if they fail to come to terms today.

Paxson said he'd withhold comment on the extensions until today.

''Things are fine; they're the same way they've been,'' Deng said of his relationship with Paxson, who likely will not raise his offer substantially. ''It was a good meeting just to know where we both stand and what we both wanted to talk about. I understand it's business.''

Gordon, who indicated Monday he also would not agree to a five-year, $50 million extension, said he didn't worry about what Deng might be offered. Deng said the same of Gordon.

''That's not in the back of my mind at all,'' Deng said. ''I'm not really worried about what's going on with Ben. I just hope the best for him. I hope he gets what he wants. That's the same thing I'm trying to do.

''If he gets more, he gets more. It is what it is.''

Deng said if he doesn't sign an extension today, he wouldn't let it bother him.

''I'm still going to do what I'm supposed to do; I'm trying to be better than I was last year,'' he said. ''It just happens to be my contract year, and you have to negotiate these things. But, as a mind-set, I'm going to go out and try to do what I did last year and just play basketball.''
Do you think that Magic would actually come out and say that the deal could possibly happen? Trades that leak are always denied by the organizations until they actually happen.
 
#27
If there's any truth to this (big IF), here's my guess about the configuration:

Kobe to Chicago

Hinrich, Artest, Gordon to LA

Crittenton, Thomas, Khryapa to Sac

Chicago would be Duhon/Kobe/Deng/Noah/Wallace
LA would be: Hinrich/Gordon/Artest/Odom/Bynum
Sac would be: well, still ugly, but at least we'd get to watch some more youngsters
 
#29
I think Magic Johnson is a figurehead in the Lakers organization and probably wouldn't even be told if a deal was going down. He's the Jerry Reynolds of the Lakers.
 
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#30
if we could get our hands on thomas id be estatic... the team would still suck for the most part but id be happy watching them lose...