Kings after Ingram

[SacTownKid]

Is that confirmed?

In the mega thread is the tweet.

 

[Tetsujin]

That makes sense. Barnes/future picks as the highlight. How do the Kings find them a C though? lol.

Trey Lyles can play center!

 

[SacTownKid]

Trey Lyles can play center!

Monte's face turned blue trying to convince them I'm sure, lol.

 

[LPKingsFan]

That makes sense. Barnes/future picks as the highlight. How do the Kings find them a C though? lol.

Yeah, Huerter’s probably not enough for a Wendell Carter or Brook Lopez.

 

[SacTownKid]

Ooh, you know the Kings have been linked to Capela for awhile now. Wonder if taking protections off the Kings pick and sending filler would work?

 

[LPKingsFan]

Ooh, you know the Kings have been linked to Capela for awhile now. Wonder if taking protections off the Kings pick and sending filler would work?

Taking protections off the pick would probably make it easier to send our later one(s) to the Pelicans, too

 

[Tetsujin]

Ooh, you know the Kings have been linked to Capela for awhile now. Wonder if taking protections off the Kings pick and sending filler would work?

I don’t think the Dejounte trade has been officially filed yet so maybe they can expand it to a three way

 

[SacTownKid]

Another team Monte has been talking to are the Bulls. Vuc good enough?

 

[Makaveli]

https://twitter.com/statuses/1807596437753958544

So we need to get huerter to a team for a center

 

[Tetsujin]

Another team Monte has been talking to are the Bulls. Vuc good enough?

The Pels trying to get off of Jonas only to replace him with a slightly better version of him is peak basketball

 

[whitechocolate]

I hadn't realized Ingram was on the last year of his contract, so I just assumed we wouldn't be able to offer the best bid. Getting Ingram after keeping our pick would literally be more than I could have hoped for.

 

[Light it up]

I think it's a ton of smoke personally. I think Kuz is the real target, barring signing Naji.

That’s kinda what I’m think. Not sure we have enough to get Ingram hence NO wanting a third team involved.

 

[reptilexcq2]

Who want Huerter for a Center? I think that's what Pelicans is looking for right now? To complete the deal? Would Warriors trade Looney for Huerter? lol

 

[KingsFanSince85]

I think it's a ton of smoke personally. I think Kuz is the real target, barring signing Naji.

Why it smoke and not the other way around?

It makes more sense for the KK crap to be false than the BI rumors, as BI is a superior talent and fit.

A good share of the “run it back” naysayers finding the notion of trading for KK appealing remains puzzling to me. That’s making a move for the sake of making a move. And arguable worse than just staying idle.

 

[Tetsujin]

Who want Huerter for a Center? I think that's what Pelicans is looking for right now?

Huerter for Beef Stew but instead of keeping him, we put him in the Ingram deal

 

[ockingsfan]

Ooh, you know the Kings have been linked to Capela for awhile now. Wonder if taking protections off the Kings pick and sending filler would work?

Not sure taking protections off the Atlanta pick would be wise with a good draft class coming up. If somehow, the Kings bomb the next year you want to keep the pick. The year after that, the 1st rounder turns into 2 2nd round picks if somehow the Kings miss the playoffs 2 years in a row.

 

[ridingagain]

i think Monte should stop playing hardball and just include Len in the deal if it gets them the center they desperately need. Or even better, sign Javale and include him instead of Len.

 

[KingsFanSince85]

If Ingram is willing to sign a less than max deal now with the Kings, he may be worth the swing. However, I'm not paying BI max money.

And I’m not paying KK 23M or anything close to it.

I also wouldn’t champion BI at a max money, but if given a choice between bad or worse, I’ll opt for bad.

BI max contract >>> KK at 23M (or any amount really)

There are better options out there than either of those.

 

[Light it up]

Why it smoke and not the other way around?

It makes more sense for the KK crap to be false than the BI rumors, as BI is a superior talent and fit.

A good share of the “run it back” naysayers finding the notion of trading for KK appealing remains puzzling to me. That’s making a move for the sake of making a move. And arguable worse than just staying idle.

Nobody is saying KK is more appealing, just more realistic and those rumors came first. Most likely Washington wanted more so Monte moved on to Ingram even if we don’t have enough to get him but word gets out we are trying making Washington realize whatever our KK offer was is take it or leave it.

 

[SacTownKid]

Not sure taking protections off the Atlanta pick would be wise with a good draft class coming up. If somehow, the Kings bomb the next year you want to keep the pick. The year after that, the 1st rounder turns into 2 2nd round picks if somehow the Kings miss the playoffs 2 years in a row.

This would be the time to cash in then. If the Kings bomb that means something went horribly wrong. The West just got a little more balanced towards the play in area. Make it unprotected and get this thing done.

 

[Makaveli]

Release protection on 25 pick and 27 to pels if needed

 

[Light it up]

And I’m not paying KK 23M or anything close to it.

I also wouldn’t champion BI at a max money, but if given a choice between bad or worse, I’ll opt for bad.

BI max contract >>> KK at 23M (or any amount really)

There are better options out there than either of those.

23 mil for KK is that bad. It’s basically what HB makes and KK is an upgrade from HB

 

[reptilexcq2]

Huerter for Beef Stew but instead of keeping him, we put him in the Ingram deal

Beef Stew, is that real food?

 

[Tetsujin]

https://twitter.com/statuses/1807602655738692082

this. This is the deal

 

[Double-K]

Beef Stew, is that real food?

LeBron had a taste, ask him. LOL

 

[hrdboild]

Didn't anyone watch the Pelicans in the playoffs this year? They got swept in the first round and Ingram was essentially a no-show in all four games. We get one swing at moving all of our assets for a significant talent upgrade. Ingram has some skill in creating off the dribble and if you give him enough shots he'll put points on the board but look at the drawbacks -- his 3pt shooting is all over the place year to year, he's a safe bet to sit out 20 games a year, and his defense is average at best. He's not the guy fam. New Orleans doesn't even want this guy anymore and he's a 26 year old former All-Star.

Can't we just trade Huerter for Isaiah Stewart instead?

 

[iowamcnabb]

i think Monte should stop playing hardball and just include Len in the deal if it gets them the center they desperately need. Or even better, sign Javale and include him instead of Len.

Len is not going to be the type of center they want and I don’t believe he is eligible to be included in a deal

 

[SacTownKid]

Nobody is saying KK is more appealing, just more realistic and those rumors came first. Most likely Washington wanted more so Monte moved on to Ingram even if we don’t have enough to get him but word gets out we are trying making Washington realize whatever our KK offer was is take it or leave it.

Here's the thing, future picks right now are what teams are looking for. The deeper the better. Most teams didn't really want to stockpile '24 picks, the draft wasn't a bad draft at all, but there was no clear superstar that teams saw in the year or so leading up at the top end picks. Now to make a Kuz deal the Kings would have to trade a deep future pick and if rumors were true, maybe 2 of them. Monte most likely doesn't see Kuz as being worth that. Ingram? Sounds like he might be. I would easily say Ingram >> Kuz as a talent.

 

[SacTownKid]

Didn't anyone watch the Pelicans in the playoffs this year? They got swept in the first round and Ingram was essentially a no-show in all four games. We get one swing at moving all of our assets for a significant talent upgrade. Ingram has some skill in creating off the dribble and if you give him enough shots he'll put points on the board but look at the drawbacks -- his 3pt shooting is all over the place year to year, he's a safe bet to sit out 20 games a year, and his defense is average at best. He's not the guy fam. New Orleans doesn't even want this guy anymore and he's a 26 year old former All-Star.

Can't we just trade Huerter for Isaiah Stewart instead?

Yeah, but they did a little too good scouting players like Jones and Murphy. Everyone has known the Ingram or Murphy standoff was coming. If they don't move Ingram it still is.

 

[Light it up]

https://twitter.com/statuses/1807602655738692082

this. This is the deal

Hard to see anyone saying no to that.