KINGS PICKING 4TH IN 2022 NBA DRAFT!
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I can think of at least one example where such a matchup changed my mind about a prospect. The biggest reason I had Devin Booker mocked as a top 10 player in his draft year (2015) was that a video came out pre-draft of him going 1-on-1 against Andre Igoudala and he more than held his own. Igoudala had a reputation as a defensive stopper and was still in his prime in 2015 and the scouting report on Booker was that he was a bit of a soft spot-up shooter who lacked shot creation skills. I knew that scouting report was inaccurate though just from 6-8 minutes of seeing him react to Igoudala's defense.
All these gym workout videos where a guy is pretending to play defense and then pulls back and lets the stud prospect score are pretty comical in comparison. If we are allowed to get Davion in a gym with them, there's a lot you can learn about a player when they actually have to create against real ball pressure.
All these gym workout videos where a guy is pretending to play defense and then pulls back and lets the stud prospect score are pretty comical in comparison. If we are allowed to get Davion in a gym with them, there's a lot you can learn about a player when they actually have to create against real ball pressure.
I wouldn't like the idea of replacing Fox with Ivey. I like Ivey, I don't see Fox level talent out of him. At least not as a PG who can attack like he does. Ivey is different. Fox is bashing guys, Ivey will sky over them. Fox controls the middle. Ivey is more of a 3 point line and at the basket type.
Is 35% in college (granted it was up from 25% in year one) that much better than 32% in the NBA? I'll be honest that I don't really follow what NCAA to Pro transitions on 3s look like. Other than that time we drafted Jimmer lol.
I don't think Ivey is being drafted as a 3 point threat as much as another attack the basket type. Which gives me a lot of pause. Also as someone who is generally pro-Ivery round these parts you saying you don't see "Fox level talent out of him" is very concerning. To be honest I also question if that level of talent is even in this draft which is why I want the best plug and play guy.
I don't think Ivey is being drafted as a 3 point threat as much as another attack the basket type. Which gives me a lot of pause. Also as someone who is generally pro-Ivery round these parts you saying you don't see "Fox level talent out of him" is very concerning. To be honest I also question if that level of talent is even in this draft which is why I want the best plug and play guy.
I'm just saying, that's where his shots are coming from, which might be lowering his efficiency. If you haven't watched the vid I linked you should. It's long, but it's about as right on the money as you get. He even noticed the same thing I did this season, a lot of his 3's are waaay out there. Like Curry/Trae level. Coming off screens he was really good.
Here's the part about 3 point shooting:
The highest frequency of his shots are from well beyond the NBA 3. Most college players "3's" aren't the same as NBA 3's. His are.
Here's the part about 3 point shooting:
The highest frequency of his shots are from well beyond the NBA 3. Most college players "3's" aren't the same as NBA 3's. His are.
You know Davion would be down for it. I think I'd want Fox to defend as well so you could see if the prospect can at least make something happen against a lesser defender as well. Davion made Pritchard look really bad in SL and Pritchard is actually a pretty decent player. Would suck to pass up on a player if they just weren't ready for that level of defense but could actually play the team game much better or at least look better with an effective screen.
Yeah I rolled my eyes at the Sharpe footage of him prancing around in the gym and jogging for wide open dunks. That type of stuff tells us nothing. Neither does shooting footage of guys making 10 in a row from beyond the arc. We saw multiple clips of Bagley doing that as well. Other than shooting form, I'm not sure if there is a whole lot you can gain from that type of footage.
Yeah I rolled my eyes at the Sharpe footage of him prancing around in the gym and jogging for wide open dunks. That type of stuff tells us nothing. Neither does shooting footage of guys making 10 in a row from beyond the arc. We saw multiple clips of Bagley doing that as well. Other than shooting form, I'm not sure if there is a whole lot you can gain from that type of footage.
The more I look into Sharpe the more I’m glad he didn’t play any ball in college and won’t show anything but his athleticism and a few shots for working out. Main reason is cause Vivek might fall in love with him but with all these uncertainties I don’t think any scout can really say “this guy is the next big thing”
I think it is not unlikely he drops but I could see Houston making the gamble.
Between the top 5 lotto teams, 4 of which seem to be in Hinkie mode, HOU strikes me as the one with the most incompetent FO right now.
If Orlando goes Chet - I could see OKC swinging for the fences with Ivey or Banchero before I see them passing on Smith for Sharpe.
That would sure make things interesting.
Between the top 5 lotto teams, 4 of which seem to be in Hinkie mode, HOU strikes me as the one with the most incompetent FO right now.
If Orlando goes Chet - I could see OKC swinging for the fences with Ivey or Banchero before I see them passing on Smith for Sharpe.
That would sure make things interesting.
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