Kings trade Tyrese and Buddy for Sabonis and Holiday and Lamb
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This isn't a bad trade in terms of basketball value. But it feels like a bad trade in terms of roster building.
Haliburton and Sabonis both have noted flaws. But their strengths matched pretty perfectly. Holmes would need to go (still does) and you would want want a vertical lob threat at PF for Tyrese to run the P&R with, but if you can find that piece and add a 3&D wing you have a pretty solid roster of Mitchell, Haliburton, 3&D wing, athletic PF, Sabonis.
That's not hard to put together. But now?
Fox
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I'm not even sure who your idealized players are to maximize those two as your best players. It's just a very different fit.
Haliburton and Sabonis both have noted flaws. But their strengths matched pretty perfectly. Holmes would need to go (still does) and you would want want a vertical lob threat at PF for Tyrese to run the P&R with, but if you can find that piece and add a 3&D wing you have a pretty solid roster of Mitchell, Haliburton, 3&D wing, athletic PF, Sabonis.
That's not hard to put together. But now?
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Sabonis
I'm not even sure who your idealized players are to maximize those two as your best players. It's just a very different fit.
NBA twitter loves nothing more than clowning the KANGZ. Often, it's very justified.
NBA twitter also thought the Lakers were going to walk into the finals with the Russ trade. They're often not the best judge of NBA talent.
Basketball logic, this deal is great for a Kings "win now" move. We all know something like this was coming with Vivek as an owner and he'll just never sign off on an actual rebuild. So may as well do "win now" right".
Just absolute gut punch to lose Hali, one of the few real bright-spots this team has had in 15 years.
NBA twitter also thought the Lakers were going to walk into the finals with the Russ trade. They're often not the best judge of NBA talent.
Basketball logic, this deal is great for a Kings "win now" move. We all know something like this was coming with Vivek as an owner and he'll just never sign off on an actual rebuild. So may as well do "win now" right".
Just absolute gut punch to lose Hali, one of the few real bright-spots this team has had in 15 years.
No they didn’t. I keep on hearing people say Sabonis is an “all star” and “skilled”, in actuality yes he’s skilled but so is Boban. I’m basketball terms a shooting guard with plsymdking abilities (Haliburton) is way more valuable than a post scoring big who doesn’t shoot & can’t defend the paint.
Can someone please create a lineup with Sabonis & Fox that can defend well enough to contend ? And create an offensive scheme that’s above average? You can even pick guys from other teams. I just don’t see it
Can someone please create a lineup with Sabonis & Fox that can defend well enough to contend ? And create an offensive scheme that’s above average? You can even pick guys from other teams. I just don’t see it
Most you guys wanted a trade. Well, you got it!
Many of you lobbied for the ridiculously overrated Sabonis. Well, you got him!
Meanwhile the KINGS continue to not be able to get out of their own way regardless of who is running things.
This reeks of a Vlade Divac decision. Except he no longer can be blamed.
Tyrese was arguably the teams best all-around player. Not only did they include him in this stupid trade, they also added Buddy Hield who could have been used to net something else in a different trade. Trading both in one deal was @##%@^@ stupid unless it was for a clear cut star player better than both.
Unreal.
The KINGS get lucky in a draft and they **** it away -- again.
Many of you lobbied for the ridiculously overrated Sabonis. Well, you got him!
Meanwhile the KINGS continue to not be able to get out of their own way regardless of who is running things.
This reeks of a Vlade Divac decision. Except he no longer can be blamed.
Tyrese was arguably the teams best all-around player. Not only did they include him in this stupid trade, they also added Buddy Hield who could have been used to net something else in a different trade. Trading both in one deal was @##%@^@ stupid unless it was for a clear cut star player better than both.
Unreal.
The KINGS get lucky in a draft and they **** it away -- again.
I love Haliburton, but I am good with this trade. The Kings finally have some playmaking in the front court. And a dude that will set serious screens. And no more Buddy stuff out there.
Playing Barnes at the 4 and Sabonis at the 5 will free up Fox a bunch. It’s do or die time for DeAaron. The Fox Hali backcourt just never clicked.
Playing Barnes at the 4 and Sabonis at the 5 will free up Fox a bunch. It’s do or die time for DeAaron. The Fox Hali backcourt just never clicked.
I liked your post but I think its clear Buddy was a net negative we've been shopping him for a year and the Lakers deal would have been striking gold but somehow the NBA's prize organization had their eye on an even worse deal.
But yeah, this feels like the move the dumb GMs we've had make. I dunno though, as much as I like Haliburton part of the reason I wanted to keep him was he is underpaid and Fox is (right now as of today) overpaid. I'm glad we didn't trade our pick. I think Barnes is the vet player we have with trade value. I guess Holmes is on the table. Bagley is still a huge ???. I'm sad we missed out on the Hart + a pick deal. But maybe we can still deal with NY? Not ideal but ...
But yeah, this feels like the move the dumb GMs we've had make. I dunno though, as much as I like Haliburton part of the reason I wanted to keep him was he is underpaid and Fox is (right now as of today) overpaid. I'm glad we didn't trade our pick. I think Barnes is the vet player we have with trade value. I guess Holmes is on the table. Bagley is still a huge ???. I'm sad we missed out on the Hart + a pick deal. But maybe we can still deal with NY? Not ideal but ...
You summed up my feeling pretty neatly.
This trade just kinda proved to me what I long suspected. I never lived in Sacramento. I fell in love with this team for C-Webb, Vlade, Peja... the talents. Pity they didn't win but I'd rather be the Sacramento Kings and lost than the Kobe-Shaq Lakers and win. This trade exposed my own stance that maybe I'd rather win with Haliburton.
This trade just kinda proved to me what I long suspected. I never lived in Sacramento. I fell in love with this team for C-Webb, Vlade, Peja... the talents. Pity they didn't win but I'd rather be the Sacramento Kings and lost than the Kobe-Shaq Lakers and win. This trade exposed my own stance that maybe I'd rather win with Haliburton.
