Kings trade Tyrese and Buddy for Sabonis and Holiday and Lamb
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i honestly disagree. Do we desperately need more shooting? Absolutely, but - upside aside - we got the best player in the deal that’s still young and we didn’t give up any picks to do it. Tyrese Haliburton is super likable and wanted to be here, but, it’s not as if Fox flipped off the community and said he hates it here. He’s been incredibly loyal and plays hard as well, despite this weird covid protocol filled season.
I’m sad to see Tyrese go but i really do want to give Fox a chance to recover and get himself right. Trading Fox after a couple rough months and a roster that doesn’t fit around him isn’t the best option either IMO.
I’m sad to see Tyrese go but i really do want to give Fox a chance to recover and get himself right. Trading Fox after a couple rough months and a roster that doesn’t fit around him isn’t the best option either IMO.
Well, you're also talking about an org that wouldn't trade for Ben Simmons because the price was too high but then paid a ridiculously high price for a 1 dimensional post player in what's been a guard/wing dominant league for the past decade plus.
So, as far as we know they had a deal that would have been acceptable to us -- but didn't pull the trigger. Because Vivek loves and wanted Buddy so freaking much.
I give up. There's just no explaining this org, their owner or their brain-dead decisions.
The harsh cold reality has finally set in for me. This org will almost certainly never be successful with Vivek Ranadive running it. He's hired every bonehead GM that's effed up every BIG decision they've been faced with.
This franchise has had ONE capable ownership group in its Sacramento existence and that group crumbled during the recession circa 2006 - 2012.
We're in purgatory until Ranadive is removed as controlling partner or decides enough is enough and sells.
So, as far as we know they had a deal that would have been acceptable to us -- but didn't pull the trigger. Because Vivek loves and wanted Buddy so freaking much.
I give up. There's just no explaining this org, their owner or their brain-dead decisions.
The harsh cold reality has finally set in for me. This org will almost certainly never be successful with Vivek Ranadive running it. He's hired every bonehead GM that's effed up every BIG decision they've been faced with.
This franchise has had ONE capable ownership group in its Sacramento existence and that group crumbled during the recession circa 2006 - 2012.
We're in purgatory until Ranadive is removed as controlling partner or decides enough is enough and sells.
I’m saying they’re not on the same tier as basketball players since Sabonis is better ... but both are “skilled” ... therefore being “skilled” is not evidence by itself of being a great basketball player.
If it was Boban would be a star and start on teams.
That’s my very obvious point if you read my full post. Fit matters and putting a player in a cohesive/connected 5 man unit. It’s not a 1 on 1 game.
So back to my question - create a contender with a Fox/Sabonis lineup.
If it was Boban would be a star and start on teams.
That’s my very obvious point if you read my full post. Fit matters and putting a player in a cohesive/connected 5 man unit. It’s not a 1 on 1 game.
So back to my question - create a contender with a Fox/Sabonis lineup.
Except the Bulls pieces fit well as Vuc could stretch the floor and open up driving lanes. In this case Fox has struggled because our lack of shooting leaves no room for him to drive. So we trade away our two best shooters and the guard who could play pick and roll with Sabonis???
Monte legit builds a team like he is assembling a fantasy roster. His ability as a GM is as poor as Vlade but bad for different reasons. Very few understand the fit of what we have done.
Monte legit builds a team like he is assembling a fantasy roster. His ability as a GM is as poor as Vlade but bad for different reasons. Very few understand the fit of what we have done.
speaking to a fellow day one tortured soul I have nothing but respect but I feel like the Simmons deal was never really on the table and "ridiculously high price" when we kept our draft pick here feels like an overstatement. I don't like this move because it wasn't the trade I'd have made or the type of player I wanted to target. And I feel like we should have just rode the season out and secured a top pick then done this type of deal. It probably would be there on draft day.
But if we had traded Fox, Haliburton and 3 picks for Simmons I'd have murdered someone and that was apparently the price to get in the door.
But if we had traded Fox, Haliburton and 3 picks for Simmons I'd have murdered someone and that was apparently the price to get in the door.
Why can’t trading for Sabonis mean that they also want a chance to be better in the future? He’s not old and this move doesn’t feel like it’s just about this season. I get that a lot of people liked Haliburton but this roster was already a poor fit and one trade was never going to fix that. We have a lot more to do, but, in my eyes, getting more talented along the way is a good thing.
You're completely delusional. The NBA is a guard/wing dominated league. A 3 pt shooting league.
They just traded a young, up and coming play-making guard for a post player that's not even half as dominant as a Shaq or Duncan.
If you truly believe this, you are just as clueless and naive as Monte McNair.
They just traded a young, up and coming play-making guard for a post player that's not even half as dominant as a Shaq or Duncan.
If you truly believe this, you are just as clueless and naive as Monte McNair.
So fricken sick,pissed, disappointed AF, and my list goes on but now I have to go pick my dam groceries off the floor from the gut punch I saw on TV carrying them in
so….. we have the game tonight as we’re devoted season ticket holders so….. I shouldn’t be surprised when suddenly Fox steps back on Court minus “the sore ankle” saga?
so….. we have the game tonight as we’re devoted season ticket holders so….. I shouldn’t be surprised when suddenly Fox steps back on Court minus “the sore ankle” saga?
c'mon, it was pretty clear this is the first move not the last. he had a few good deals go sour which surely would have made other moves feasible. You have to believe that at least one of Holmes or Barnes is gone. It's possible (probable) that we move both and it may not be in the order you like either. Also Monte just traded his first ever draft pick for a move that may not be resoundingly popular. To me that shows he has more cojones than anyone since Petrie. I hope we get to see him work out his vision. If it's terrible we at least deserve to see if play out with another pick, a coach, and a few more trades.