The Official We're Talking Playoffs Thread

[parker]

Tele, Your remark reminds me of instant gratification, fan-wise. As I wrote earlier, recall the cautionary example of the team last season - @ 20-23, an even better mark further into the season what then had happened. The elusive .500 winning percentage, had slipped away and faded out over the next 15+ games. With the car analogy, The Kings ran out of gas for whatever reasons. Will they run out of gas this year? Maybe, maybe not, but setting up a camera at the finish line when there's still 120 laps to go is silly. I'm just hoping in the next 10 laps they improve their position against the cars around them, and even more so, stay with the lead pack (obtain and sustain a .500 winning percentage) .

Yes, last year Brick started a playoff thread and the kings imploded. As far as I remember, however, this premature playoff rooting only caused one causality. One poster, I think it was Costello, came down with a heat rash that he had to use some ointment on.

I'm willing to take my chances on premature rooting this year even if I'm the one that comes down with the rash. But if you are the cautious type, feel free to sit on the sidelines until the playoffs are official.

 

[dude12]

I'm sorry, coming into this thread and lecturing people that its too early to talk playoffs is like going into the rebuild without Demarcus thread and telling everyone that it is pointless because he's not going anywhere...why are you starting the thread? If your a Demarcus supporter, you just stay out of the thread and let the people put their theories and opinions out there.

 

[KingsFanSince85]

For gosh sakes, who cares. Life is too short to give lectures about the proper way for fans to assess their current emotional feelings about a sports team. If people want to be excited and (in your view) hold unrealistic expectations, does that really matter? Feels like you are just setting up a later "told you so" thread when things collapse -- which is a pretty good bet given the Kings history. Think of it this way, if this is the high point of the season, can't people have some fun and be full of positive expectations for a few days? Or is the only purpose of our fandom to be cautious and apprehensive until the day they are finally in the playoffs?

Damn, maybe in just older than you, but life is too short. Other than the fact that we are talking about the Kings here, I'd say there is more reason to believe the team will get better, not worse, as we go through the season (getting used to a new coach, easier schedule, possible trades, etc). My optimism will not "jinx" the team.

This is the long and short of it.

 

[ParniValjak]

Funny how the national media does not even have one positive story on the Kings being #8 in the playoff chase, but earlier in the year there was so many stories about how DMC was a cancer and the Kings and Vlade were fools.

Remember how many endless stories we had to endure about the Upstart Lakers and their miraculous ascension to playoff contender under Luke Walton!!!

Shame on the national (and local) news media for not at least acknowledging that the Kings are doing much better than anticipated!

You need to understand that National media just regurgitates whatever the local media is dribbling on about most of the time, especially if it is bad news. It's not like the two imposters are writing anything positive about the Kings since the leaked that video of Cousins out there.

It will take a lot more than Kings being in the 8th spot for the National media to catch on that things are and have been changing in Sacramento every since we hired Joerger in the off-season.

 

[kingdivac]

It has nothing to do with instant gratification. It is about talking about the CURRENT state of the team. Saying we can't talk about it NOW because they might go on a losing streak is simply a pessimistic way of looking at things. I know some would say they are just being realistic, but that is a cop out. Realism is dealing with the here and now while also looking at what the future could be. It is not looking at the present and predetermining the future (only one view) based on what has happened in the past.

You can try to compare this year to last year, but there are far too many differences to make that comparison. The relationship between team & coach is much different. The lay of the Western Conference is different. The make up of the team is also different.
Now this doesn't mean that the current team won't implode, but it also means there are a number of reasons to think that they won't. And this is the whole point to why it will be talked about.

I'm done talking about the playoffs as premature discussions - beating a dead horse and in the minority..... on your 2nd thought, there are too many differences to make comparisons? Last year's and this year's team features 7 returning players of which 4 were starters, and 4 currently are starters from last year this season - I think this qualifies as comparable.

 

[kingdivac]

I'm sorry, coming into this thread and lecturing people that its too early to talk playoffs is like going into the rebuild without Demarcus thread and telling everyone that it is pointless because he's not going anywhere...why are you starting the thread? If your a Demarcus supporter, you just stay out of the thread and let the people put their theories and opinions out there.

I didn't start the thread, it was a response and in an agreement to another poster in the minority- read closely.

 

[kingsboi]

For gosh sakes, who cares. Life is too short to give lectures about the proper way for fans to assess their current emotional feelings about a sports team. If people want to be excited and (in your view) hold unrealistic expectations, does that really matter? Feels like you are just setting up a later "told you so" thread when things collapse -- which is a pretty good bet given the Kings history. Think of it this way, if this is the high point of the season, can't people have some fun and be full of positive expectations for a few days? Or is the only purpose of our fandom to be cautious and apprehensive until the day they are finally in the playoffs?

Damn, maybe in just older than you, but life is too short. Other than the fact that we are talking about the Kings here, I'd say there is more reason to believe the team will get better, not worse, as we go through the season (getting used to a new coach, easier schedule, possible trades, etc). My optimism will not "jinx" the team.

It's so short that you had to mention it twice!

 

[kingdivac]

For gosh sakes, who cares. Life is too short to give lectures about the proper way for fans to assess their current emotional feelings about a sports team. If people want to be excited and (in your view) hold unrealistic expectations, does that really matter? Feels like you are just setting up a later "told you so" thread when things collapse -- which is a pretty good bet given the Kings history. Think of it this way, if this is the high point of the season, can't people have some fun and be full of positive expectations for a few days? Or is the only purpose of our fandom to be cautious and apprehensive until the day they are finally in the playoffs?

Damn, maybe in just older than you, but life is too short. Other than the fact that we are talking about the Kings here, I'd say there is more reason to believe the team will get better, not worse, as we go through the season (getting used to a new coach, easier schedule, possible trades, etc). My optimism will not "jinx" the team.

Life is too short to give lectures....you mean like you're doing, Taxman Black Kettle? "Setting up a later told you so"?....nice prejudice of motive there. Step away from your hypocrisy a bit. You definitely are just older.

 

[Bricklayer]

Life is too short to give lectures....you mean like you're doing, Taxman Black Kettle? "Setting up a later told you so"?....nice prejudice of motive there. Step away from your hypocrisy a bit. You definitely are just older.

Ok, I said enough, and I meant it. I would have just deleted this post but I wanted to communicate clearly. You are NOT going to hijack, derail, or destroy this thread. If you don't like the thread, then just go poof and talk about something else in a different thread. Your opinion has been noted, nothing more productive can be accomplished here.

 

[TaxMan]

Life is too short to give lectures....you mean like you're doing, Taxman Black Kettle? "Setting up a later told you so"?....nice prejudice of motive there. Step away from your hypocrisy a bit. You definitely are just older.

Yes. Respect your elders.

 

[CyKings]

I think well be fighting for the 8 seed with portland. only chance at 7 is if westbrook gets hurt for a long time.

 

[Warhawk]

Consider last year at 20-23 on Jan 23, 2016 as a marker for implosion near mid-season.....but I like your 7/8 of the way idea....that is if they've still managed to be 3 games under .500 at that point, what would it take to make the playoffs?

If you actually read the post you would understand it's not my idea and I don't agree with you.

 

[VF21]

I'm done talking about the playoffs as premature discussions - beating a dead horse and in the minority..... on your 2nd thought, there are too many differences to make comparisons? Last year's and this year's team features 7 returning players of which 4 were starters, and 4 currently are starters from last year this season - I think this qualifies as comparable.

Two words - Dave Joerger

 

[Glenn]

Two words - Dave Joerger

Are you insinuating that Joerger has a different impact than Karl? Probably.

 

[ApolloDaGod]

Too soon. Even last place is 4 games out of 8th. I suppose it's a legit race with us in the lead. Why did you have to go and make a thread like this and make my mind go crazy?

 

[Telemachus]

I'm done talking about the playoffs as premature discussions - beating a dead horse and in the minority..... on your 2nd thought, there are too many differences to make comparisons? Last year's and this year's team features 7 returning players of which 4 were starters, and 4 currently are starters from last year this season - I think this qualifies as comparable.

What makes it not comparable IMO is the whole situation. While there are some players on both teams, the teams don't play the same. This year's team has been competitive in almost every game while last year there were many times the game was over at halftime.
Last year the Kings had to go on a big streak (with Cousins carrying them on his back) just to tie for the 8th seed. While currently on a winning streak, the bench is a huge reason for the wins and they have a 1 game lead as the 8th place team.
Last year, the whole team wanted their head coach gone, while the team seems to be behind their coach this season. Throw in that the schedule is going to get much easier and there is more reason to believe that the Kings can hold onto the 8th spot.

Of course, there is always a chance that they decide to blow things up which would change everything. Maybe Cousins gets injured or something else happens, but that is possible every year.

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

If you actually read the post you would understand it's not my idea and I don't agree with you.

Hardly surprising: he also appears to be co-signing @Joshoua's "last five games" post, when even a cursory glance at Joshoua's posting history would have shown that he was being sarcastic, too.

 

[parker]

I think well be fighting for the 8 seed with portland. only chance at 7 is if westbrook gets hurt for a long time.

If the Kings are fighting for the 7th spot, it would likely be with Utah or Memphis.

Both teams have shown some vulnerability and are only 3 and 4 games better in the loss column.

 

[Gliesian]

7th seed and a small prayer of catching the Spurs with a broken hip?
Or Warriors and potentially build a rivalry with the world watching. There must be someone on the Warriors who could get on Cuz' bad side right? If we could somehow win 1 or 2, we'd get huge respect.
Seriously doubt we'd beat either team, so I guess I'll hope for 7th but would rather watch Sac vs GS.

 

[Chupacabra]

http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/here-come-the-sacramento-kings-122716
We received a little recognition.

 

[Sac.Kings]

http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/here-come-the-sacramento-kings-122716
We received a little recognition.

Nothing really earth shattering here, but it is nice that we are getting some love from the media. The roster still needs work and I am hoping Vlade has a game plan, but so far these past few games (minus Philly game) have been encouraging. I hope we don't fizzle out like last year.

 

[Suicide King]

We have a tough stretch the next 18 games before our nice home stretch of 11 of 13 at G1C. Not to sound hard nosed but it's win or go home time. Worst case is fizzle enough to miss the playoffs but still lose our pick. It's time to turn the page if the team is all in on a playoff birth. These next few weeks may decide a lot about the teams future.

As for tonight, go in and dominate. I hope to see better care taken of the ball after that last game, as well as seeing Rudy, Collison, and whomever gets the nod for SG and PF really step up. A win tonight and 5 game win streak will go a long way towards continuing the buzz that's building for us.

 

[Chupacabra]

Its all about the Lawson/Temple/Barnes/Tolliver combo. That group scraps out the W's.

 

[kingjatt]

7th seed and a small prayer of catching the Spurs with a broken hip?
Or Warriors and potentially build a rivalry with the world watching. There must be someone on the Warriors who could get on Cuz' bad side right? If we could somehow win 1 or 2, we'd get huge respect.
Seriously doubt we'd beat either team, so I guess I'll hope for 7th but would rather watch Sac vs GS.

They would just out talent us at the end of the day, we might get a close one at home but I would argue that they are a better matchup because boogie is averaging 45 and 18 in that series. Big man built for a slow'd down playoff series against a team with no legit big man. We've seen what Cuz can do when he's fully engaged and its scary. Plus with physical scrappers like temple/barnes and afflalo(he is deceptively strong) we would definitely bump and bruise the hell out of all of their skinny jump shooters. The warriors are flawed and we have some of the tools to expose those flaws, we just lack the playmaking and shooting.

Don't forget that Joergers banged up grizzles gave the warriors all they could handle in 2015 and may well would have won the series had Conley not missed any games. And that 2015 Warriors team may have been the best Warrior team of all time.

 

[Joshoua]

Its all about the Lawson/Temple/Barnes/Tolliver combo. That group scraps out the W's.

Oh the group of scrubs that idiot Vlade put together, in sure Curry and Acy would be better. Makes sense that idiot also traded Chriss (Whose struggling) for Bogdan, a promising PF, and Big Popa. He also hired a great you coach but hey, let's crucify Vlade.

 

[Glenn]

We have a tough stretch the next 18 games before our nice home stretch of 11 of 13 at G1C. Not to sound hard nosed but it's win or go home time. Worst case is fizzle enough to miss the playoffs but still lose our pick. It's time to turn the page if the team is all in on a playoff birth. These next few weeks may decide a lot about the teams future.

As for tonight, go in and dominate. I hope to see better care taken of the ball after that last game, as well as seeing Rudy, Collison, and whomever gets the nod for SG and PF really step up. A win tonight and 5 game win streak will go a long way towards continuing the buzz that's building for us.

We may be relatively on the same path but I don't see so much critical coming up. Gasp, you say. I thought the game against the Sixers was essential to win. It scared the crap out of me so much I have no need for a bath room for a few weeks. We need to learn how to win at home and against bad teams. I know the challenge seems bigger to beat a good team and indeed that is true. However, we will get to the playoffs if we win all those we should win and a few of the others which I think we can absolutely do.

Good grief. If anyone understands what I just wrote and can write better English, give it a try.

 

[Glenn]

Oh the group of scrubs that idiot Vlade put together, in sure Curry and Acy would be better. Makes sense that idiot also traded Chriss (Whose struggling) for Bogdan, a promising PF, and Big Popa. He also hired a great you coach but hey, let's crucify Vlade.

Sarcasm gives me a problem at times. My comprehension is not so great. I think Vlade did a good job and I believe taught us a lesson. Vets have value. Now if Collison would find his shot, we'd be pretty good.

My comment about sarcasm goes for all who like to use it. It throws me off and I am sure I am not the only one who has problems. Maybe it's this age thing. Sigh!

 

[Suicide King]

We may be relatively on the same path but I don't see so much critical coming up. Gasp, you say. I thought the game against the Sixers was essential to win. It scared the crap out of me so much I have no need for a bath room for a few weeks. We need to learn how to win at home and against bad teams. I know the challenge seems bigger to beat a good team and indeed that is true. However, we will get to the playoffs if we win all those we should win and a few of the others which I think we can absolutely do.

Good grief. If anyone understands what I just wrote and can write better English, give it a try.

I think i understand and agree. Have to start with the baby steps of protecting home court and winning against "inferior" opponents before worrying about the big dogs. Also hopefully steal a couple against the better teams. What I was also touching on was not getting in a huge hole in the standings before the schedule gets better for us if making the playoffs this season and locking Boogie up long term is the plan.

 

[Joshoua]

Sarcasm gives me a problem at times. My comprehension is not so great. I think Vlade did a good job and I believe taught us a lesson. Vets have value. Now if Collison would find his shot, we'd be pretty good.

My comment about sarcasm goes for all who like to use it. It throws me off and I am sure I am not the only one who has problems. Maybe it's this age thing. Sigh!

Ya it was sarcasm to the haters I think Vlade did a great job

 

[Gliesian]

They would just out talent us at the end of the day, we might get a close one at home but I would argue that they are a better matchup because boogie is averaging 45 and 18 in that series. Big man built for a slow'd down playoff series against a team with no legit big man. We've seen what Cuz can do when he's fully engaged and its scary. Plus with physical scrappers like temple/barnes and afflalo(he is deceptively strong) we would definitely bump and bruise the hell out of all of their skinny jump shooters. The warriors are flawed and we have some of the tools to expose those flaws, we just lack the playmaking and shooting.

Don't forget that Joergers banged up grizzles gave the warriors all they could handle in 2015 and may well would have won the series had Conley not missed any games. And that 2015 Warriors team may have been the best Warrior team of all time.

Hmm I thought our kryptonite was the 3 ball? I feel like we beat teams that play in the paint and lose to those that shoot threes. The reason may lay in the pairing of KK and Cuz.