Kings play by play announcer Grant Napear rips DeMarcus Cousins

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John Galt said:
I agree. When it comes to "sucking the air out of the team" - a lot of pro DeMarcus guys can show memes of him goofing with teammates, and articles where he's giving a car to a poor family or playing Santa - and mock the notion that he sucks the air out of the team.

But, sniff test - just gut feel from being at a lot of games and watching a lot of games - you can see and feel the toll DeMarcus' tantrums take on the rest of the team. you can see the eye rolls and slumped shoulders from the other players - I particularly feel like I've seen it a lot from Rudy, but also Ben, Marco, KK, etc. Who would NOT be worn down psychically by all that drama from such an in important person on the team.

I think GK has been a disappointment, but when he remarks about how the Spurs don't have a "one man ego show" it make sense to me.

It was weird how when DeMarcus was out on suspension the other day, Marco shot lights out. Now I'm not taking up for Marco over DeMarcus but it was just a weird coincidence.

And as I was driving to that Orlando game I thought "you know, it is kind of a relief that there will not be drama on the court... there won't be the massive wind-suck happening tonight. Yes we got clobbered without the talent on the floor, but if DeMarcus' talent was replaced 75% in a deal... I would not quit the Kings over it.
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When his teammates truly get worn out by Cousins yelling at officials (he got into it with Karl only two times this season. So this can hardly count as a reason for his teammates to give up) it tells me more about his teammates as it does tell me something about Cousins.
Rondo won a championship. Bellinelli won a championship. Butler is a 13 year pro with 2 All Star nominations. Koufos, Gay, DC are solid veterans with a lot of NBA games under their belt.
And you think those guys play bad, because Cousins, who never won in his career and seemed to be very willing to learn from guys like Rondo, yells at officials or kicks a chair?
Now it might be possible, that a strong willed and hot tempered guy like Cousins is intimidating for some younger players. But he talked very positive about Seth. He has always publicy supported Ben. And Willie even said, that it's great that Cuz is able to take 30 shots and hit 20 of it, but ultimately it needs to be more of a team effort. Doesn't sound too intimidated for me.

And if you take a close look at Casspi and Acy, those guys seem to be pretty close with Cousins.
 
Bricklayer

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BonziFan said:
Brick, I respect the hell out of you and agree with a TON of what you say. BUT do you really not find at least some of what DMC does as tiresome? I for one just can't stand the way he acts towards officials especially when he is 100% incorrect about them. Even the times he's right, he's hurting his teammates.
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Of course I find some of what he does tiresome. Its certainly not how I conducted myself with refs -- refs were my friends. I joked with them, pointed out pretty girls in the stands, used self-deprecating humor in asking for calls. I consider losing one's temper a sign of weakness, and so I almost never do. DMC is not me.

However, I just keep it entirely within perspective when dealing with a generational big man putting up Shaq numbers.


I also find Harden flopping and lack of defense tiresome. CP3s flat cheating tiresome. LeBron's prima donna act tiresome. And something about Steph Curry's face makes me just want to punch it, repeatedly.

HOWEVER, Grant's argument is asinine. As in all time great player asinine.

Just substitute the word Barkley in for every Cousins above and I can imagine some idiot in Philly saying the same thing 25 years ago. How much was the famously tactiturn Kareem leading his teams? How about Wilt taking the train in from a different city for practices held in the afternoon because he wasn't willing to be there in the morning? Did you know that the Rockets almost traded Hakeem mid career because he "wasn't a leader and was bad in the lockerroom"? Did you know Patrick Ewing notoriously would not outlet the ball off defensive rebounds because he wanted to stop the break so he could get down and get his shots?

Knowing the history of the sport, and knowing the balance of the sport -- no sport is so dependent on singular great players -- let's you keep everything in perspective. Cousins has an oncourt temper issue. Its a wart. He completely dominates most games at an historic big man level despite it. That's as far as the wart goes.

The rest of Grant's rant is demagoguery, pure and simple. No proof offered. None needed. I don't like this, and THIS is the cause of all the woes. How can we ever win with this? How can we ever feel good with this? A witch! A witch! Burn it!


I've gone through this time and again, but the FACTS are that there are almost no examples, almost none at all, of players or coaches that we have put around Boogie leaving Sac and going on to do better than they have here. In fact the great majority of them never even achieve whatever low level success they had here. For any of this a witch! a witch! nonsense to be verifiable, there would have to be examples of people who obviously suffered from Cousins presence. Logically once out of his presence SOMEBODY should be thriving. All those wonderful picks of ours, TRob and Jimmer and Stauskas, just tearing up the league. All the wins being piled up by ex head coaches Paul Westphal and Keith Smart and Ty Corbin. All the double doubles being piled up JT, or Beno, or Thornton or the rest. There is basically NO evidence to support Grant's rant. But that's not important in a witch hunt.
 
Bricklayer

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John Galt said:
I agree. When it comes to "sucking the air out of the team" - a lot of pro DeMarcus guys can show memes of him goofing with teammates, and articles where he's giving a car to a poor family or playing Santa - and mock the notion that he sucks the air out of the team.

But, sniff test - just gut feel from being at a lot of games and watching a lot of games - you can see and feel the toll DeMarcus' tantrums take on the rest of the team. you can see the eye rolls and slumped shoulders from the other players - I particularly feel like I've seen it a lot from Rudy, but also Ben, Marco, KK, etc. Who would NOT be worn down psychically by all that drama from such an in important person on the team.

I think GK has been a disappointment, but when he remarks about how the Spurs don't have a "one man ego show" it make sense to me.

It was weird how when DeMarcus was out on suspension the other day, Marco shot lights out. Now I'm not taking up for Marco over DeMarcus but it was just a weird coincidence.

And as I was driving to that Orlando game I thought "you know, it is kind of a relief that there will not be drama on the court... there won't be the massive wind-suck happening tonight. Yes we got clobbered without the talent on the floor, but if DeMarcus' talent was replaced 75% in a deal... I would not quit the Kings over it.
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Its the normal sloppy thinking.


Now here would be the confirming facts: His teammates should do better without him. Even if losing, they should play with more spirit and cohesiveness because no Cousins to "take the wind out of their sails".

They do not. They never have. Not even close. And I'll even tell you why. Because DeMarcus Cousins IS the leader. Oh, he's not a perfect leader, or a charge the hill leader. but DeMarcus Cousins is this team's fight and heart and soul. He is their confidence. When he is out there, they believe, or did until they quit. They fight because they have a chance. When he is gone, their confidence craters and they collapse.

A second point of proof would again be that players and coaches leaving Sacramento should go on to great things. Should go on and be better. And almost NONE of them have. I mean, its not even a close call, almost NONE of them have. I can think of JJ Hickson, about it. But JT, Salmons, Thornton, Donte, Hayes, Casspi after he left, Reggie Evans, Landry, Patterson, Vasquez, TRob, Jimmer, Stauskas, and the list just goes on and on and on....NOBODY gets better without Cousins.


I think, and have thought for several years, that the real issue with Cousins is with the fans, being goaded by the media no less, more than with the players.
 
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You should always be able to question authority. Grant is wrong on this.

However, people defending Cuz because he has the courage to stand up to Karl need to remember there is a way to go about this. Cousins shouldn't be throwing tantrums towards the GM and Karl in front of his teammates. If he has a problem with Karl, address it in a closed door meeting, not when your throwing a tirade.

I don't understand why people think it's okay and proper to rip into a co-worker in front of everyone.
 
Dbeltz24

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Give me DMC, the once every decade skilled big man. He'll eventually become a better leader, once better talent and coaching is around him. Whether that's here or elsewhere remains to be seen. You can teach leadership, selflessness and respect authority. Prime example Kobe. He was way more toxic then DMC ever was, and eventually he got it correct in L.A.

I'll take the head case with other world talent over the decent starter that preaches team unity every day. Because you can solve the issues, but you cannot get the talent DMC has.
 
whozit

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peacelate said:
You should always be able to question authority. Grant is wrong on this.

However, people defending Cuz because he has the courage to stand up to Karl need to remember there is a way to go about this. Cousins shouldn't be throwing tantrums towards the GM and Karl in front of his teammates. If he has a problem with Karl, address it in a closed door meeting, not when your throwing a tirade.

I don't understand why people think it's okay and proper to rip into a co-worker in front of everyone.
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It's not and he was suspended for it. Even if there were closed door meetings with Karl and they went nowhere, it's still not OK. That one event doesn't make me want him gone however.
 
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Bricklayer said:
Its the normal sloppy thinking.


Now here would be the confirming facts: His teammates should do better without him. Even if losing, they should play with more spirit and cohesiveness because no Cousins to "take the wind out of their sails".

They do not. They never have. Not even close. And I'll even tell you why. Because DeMarcus Cousins IS the leader. Oh, he's not a perfect leader, or a charge the hill leader. but DeMarcus Cousins is this team's fight and heart and soul. He is their confidence. When he is out there, they believe, or did until they quit. They fight because they have a chance. When he is gone, their confidence craters and they collapse.

A second point of proof would again be that players and coaches leaving Sacramento should go on to great things. Should go on and be better. And almost NONE of them have. I mean, its not even a close call, almost NONE of them have. I can think of JJ Hickson, about it. But JT, Salmons, Thornton, Donte, Hayes, Casspi after he left, Reggie Evans, Landry, Patterson, Vasquez, TRob, Jimmer, Stauskas, and the list just goes on and on and on....NOBODY gets better without Cousins.


I think, and have thought for several years, that the real issue with Cousins is with the fans, being goaded by the media no less, more than with the players.
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Agreed. People want to believe what they want to believe. Facts are facts. That list above is fairly crappy. Bring in the correct head coach and this team is flirting with .500 Have no clue on how to coach and deliver on the defensive side and its a dumpster fire giving up 109 a game. Facts.
 
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Im Still Ballin said:
The voice of the people. Grant always has good insight. We are lucky to have him. We have one of the better commentary duos in the league.
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You must have missed the last couple years of the Maloof era.

Grant defended every despicable move those scumbags made and completely turned his back on the fans and this city. The team was only moving in his eyes, he'd still keep his job. He was not on our side.

The second this team went from relocating to pending sale he pulled a complete 180°.
 
Glenn

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Up front I will say I can't stand the red headed twerp and I like Boogie. Boogie has a sensitivity to not being respected. I think it is the underlying caldron that is burbling underneath him on the court. The refs aren't giving the proper calls, the coach doesn't support him, etc. and now the biggest and loudest voice in the local media is chopping him up. That does not help the team unless you are trying to drive Boogie off the team.

If Grant wants the Kings to win, he should watch what he says. He is undercutting our best player and that doesn't do any good for the team.

Winning cures all.
 
SacKings384

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It's frustrating to see people either in Boogie's camp, or Grant's camp. I think there is a good share of blame that goes to Karl, and some blame that goes to Boogie. Regardless of who comes in next, Boogie needs to get his act together. Not all of what's going on is purely to blame on Karl.
 
Dreadnought

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Is it just me or has the levels of drama hit an unreasonable level? We've been losing for a decade, why is it now that everyone is unraveling more than possible? Even our 17 win team didn't have this much negativity surrounding it.
 
whozit

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Glenn said:
I hope you don't mean me as I was really tempted. :)
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You did better than me then. I typed it, posted it and then deleted it. I don't recall ever getting a warning here so I didn't want my first. Or at least the first one I remembered. They were good for the day I was having.
 
G_M

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Dreadnought said:
Is it just me or has the levels of drama hit an unreasonable level? We've been losing for a decade, why is it now that everyone is unraveling more than possible? Even our 17 win team didn't have this much negativity surrounding it.
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I think the belief that roster has more talent than most of the prior "bad" teams is the root...
 
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Demarcus has always been a whiner going back to his days at Kentucky. If Malone was still coaching the team, Cousins would still be whining. His behavior has little to do with the ineptitude of the organization. It's just the way it is.

Grant is closer to Cousins than we are. He sees what goes on behind the scenes, so it's odd how people unequivocally determine his opinion is false.
 
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Dreadnought said:
Is it just me or has the levels of drama hit an unreasonable level? We've been losing for a decade, why is it now that everyone is unraveling more than possible? Even our 17 win team didn't have this much negativity surrounding it.
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Everyone thought the team was going to the playoffs. Go read the board in from September.
 
Glenn

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peacelate said:
Demarcus has always been a whiner going back to his days at Kentucky. If Malone was still coaching the team, Cousins would still be whining. His behavior has little to do with the ineptitude of the organization. It's just the way it is.

Grant is closer to Cousins than we are. He sees what goes on behind the scenes, so it's odd how people unequivocally determine his opinion is false.
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As a general rule, I think this organization leaks info like a sieve. If Grant is leaking what goes on behind the scenes, I still won't like him. I don't listen to his show so I don't know if he professes to know more than anyone else because of his "special" relationship. BTW, I wonder if Jerry agrees. But I digress.
 
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peacelate said:
Demarcus has always been a whiner going back to his days at Kentucky. If Malone was still coaching the team, Cousins would still be whining. His behavior has little to do with the ineptitude of the organization. It's just the way it is.

Grant is closer to Cousins than we are. He sees what goes on behind the scenes, so it's odd how people unequivocally determine his opinion is false.
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There are two Grants. The one who is part of the broadcast team and thus may be privy to certain information is in no way the one who shoots his mouth off every afternoon in an attempt to be Jim Rome lite. THAT'S the one I absolutely detest. He's a fraud and he takes advantage of his unique role to garner more attention. He should not IMHO be allowed to collect a paycheck from the Kings AND play the pseudo-pundit on all things Kings at the same time.

In the past, he accused Bobby Jackson of faking an injury. To my knowledge, he never retracted those comments or apologized to Bobby. Napear hides behind his talk show host status as if it's some cloak of immunity that allows him to spout whatever rhetoric he likes without being held responsible for it. It's heinous. It's no different than some of the bullcrap Ailene Voisin gets away with.

Sacramento Kings fans deserve better.

And yes, I detest Grant Napear. I believe his radio persona is a good example of what's wrong with sports media today.
 
King Baller

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BonziFan said:
Brick, I respect the hell out of you and agree with a TON of what you say. BUT do you really not find at least some of what DMC does as tiresome? I for one just can't stand the way he acts towards officials especially when he is 100% incorrect about them. Even the times he's right, he's hurting his teammates.
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One question I have for Fans who say this. Do you also think this way about all the other NBA Star Players who complain to the Refs all the time? LBJ, CP3, Harden, heck Draymond Green complains more to the refs than Boogie.
 
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