Annual DMC trade thread
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If the Bulls offered us Butler and Mirotic....I'd say yes.. but I doubt they do.
With Miami, I'd probably accept Dragic, Winslow, Whiteside, Johnson, and a bunch of 1st rounders..Actually, this depends on whether or not Whiteside is a RFA..which I doubt. NVM, there's nothing Miami could offer that I'd accept.
Celtics? Give me all of their draft picks including Smart and Olynk.
With Miami, I'd probably accept Dragic, Winslow, Whiteside, Johnson, and a bunch of 1st rounders..Actually, this depends on whether or not Whiteside is a RFA..which I doubt. NVM, there's nothing Miami could offer that I'd accept.
Celtics? Give me all of their draft picks including Smart and Olynk.
This is crazy! Under no circumstance do you give up on a talent like DMC unless he gives up on you. We need to find players and coaches that will compliment him. If we trade him away, we will be searching for the next 10 or 20 years for the very player we already had. These rumors will continue to be thrown out there because other teams want what we have. I purpose we go after Bradley Beal. The Wizards are underperforming and they will not have the money to secure him long term and land Durant this offseason. We can only hope they'd be interested in Mclemore, Curry, and Moreland as an offering. Then with Beal and his bird rights we will be able to secure him long term, even after signing Rondo long term next offseason.
I would prefer to keep our core until next offseason. I don't see any need to rush things with a rebuild. If we end in the lottery again, fail to resign Rondo and Rudy falls back into his inefficient volume scorer+lazy defender habits we still have enough time to think about making a fresh start within the new arena.
The Celtics offer is the most tempting, but draft picks will net you a player like DMC in a best case scenario and Smart is only valuable, when you pair him with good offensive players. He is a great defender and capable ball mover/system player, but he won't carry you on the offensive end.
The Celtics offer is the most tempting, but draft picks will net you a player like DMC in a best case scenario and Smart is only valuable, when you pair him with good offensive players. He is a great defender and capable ball mover/system player, but he won't carry you on the offensive end.
I will never cease to be amazed at the pure insanity that is the national rumor-mill re: the Kings trading Cousins.
That video clip perfectly exemplifies the brain-deadedness:
* So the Kings aren't looking to trade him.... but it's a long time till trade deadline! Anything can happen!
* The Kings may want Hassan Whiteside..... never mentioning that they drafted him and already know him and chose to let him go. (BTW - why should any team give up much to get Whiteside? So they can have the privilege of overpaying for him next year to stay? I guarantee that by December of next year, Whiteside will be considered on a bad contract
* The Kings were all set and had a deal in place with the Lakers to trade Cuz for guys who were benched this year. The incessant stupidity of everyone apparently valuing Russell/Randall/Clarkson WAY over Cuz is incredibly revealing. What the hell have any of those 3 done, to warrant keeping them over stealing Cuz (his numbers have been monstrous comparatively!)
Basically, the rumor-mongers are so bad at their job, they can't even rumor-monger properly.
If they're going to propose crap trades to dumbly steal away Sacramento's superstar, at least don't embarrass yourself and say he's not worth trading relative scrubs for.
That video clip perfectly exemplifies the brain-deadedness:
* So the Kings aren't looking to trade him.... but it's a long time till trade deadline! Anything can happen!
* The Kings may want Hassan Whiteside..... never mentioning that they drafted him and already know him and chose to let him go. (BTW - why should any team give up much to get Whiteside? So they can have the privilege of overpaying for him next year to stay? I guarantee that by December of next year, Whiteside will be considered on a bad contract
* The Kings were all set and had a deal in place with the Lakers to trade Cuz for guys who were benched this year. The incessant stupidity of everyone apparently valuing Russell/Randall/Clarkson WAY over Cuz is incredibly revealing. What the hell have any of those 3 done, to warrant keeping them over stealing Cuz (his numbers have been monstrous comparatively!)
Basically, the rumor-mongers are so bad at their job, they can't even rumor-monger properly.
If they're going to propose crap trades to dumbly steal away Sacramento's superstar, at least don't embarrass yourself and say he's not worth trading relative scrubs for.
It's also the guy feeding Cousins the ball. On Cousins' end he had whoever Terry was guarding open under the basket but couldn't get him the ball quick enough. Cousins was catching but then everyone else would stand around, nobody set a quick screen for a cut etc. The whole team could have executed it better, but you are right that our offense cannot be reduced to just forcing the ball to Cousins in the post.
It's annoying when national writers don't bother to do 10 minutes of research before making articles like this. If we were 4-21, okay, maybe I'd buy into it. As it stands, we're a game out of a playoff spot and are 9-8 since starting the season 1-7. Clearly, we're on the upswing. Why would we trade our best player (especially for the garbage he's suggesting) when we're clearly still in the playoff hunt?
oh man... I didn't realize it, but I posted that in the wrong thread lol
Cuz is a good passing big man, but passing out of double teams is not a strong suit of his.
Cuz used to be a pretty nice post player in his first few years, but it looks like he lost that touch. I remember he used to have a little hook, and I really thought he'd continue to develop it... he's probably had 0 hook attempts this year...
I feel like he started abandoning his post moves probably in his 3rd year. He's started to rely on his power and quickness.
I don't see how anyone could blame Karl for this though. I know people say he's killing Cuz, but the truth is, even under Malone, he was out in the perimeter.
Cuz is a good passing big man, but passing out of double teams is not a strong suit of his.
Cuz used to be a pretty nice post player in his first few years, but it looks like he lost that touch. I remember he used to have a little hook, and I really thought he'd continue to develop it... he's probably had 0 hook attempts this year...
I feel like he started abandoning his post moves probably in his 3rd year. He's started to rely on his power and quickness.
I don't see how anyone could blame Karl for this though. I know people say he's killing Cuz, but the truth is, even under Malone, he was out in the perimeter.
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anything and everything in the NBA is trash when compared to a superstar. You offer me 5 15ppg scorers and 5 midround draft picks I laugh in your face. Dime a dozen.
You don't ever trade a superstar, EVER, until he wants out or he gets old. Sole exception is for another younger superstar, which happens basically never. If Minny comes offering Towns you can listen.
anything and everything in the NBA is trash when compared to a superstar. You offer me 5 15ppg scorers and 5 midround draft picks I laugh in your face. Dime a dozen.
You don't ever trade a superstar, EVER, until he wants out or he gets old. Sole exception is for another younger superstar, which happens basically never. If Minny comes offering Towns you can listen.
Agree with your keep and build comment. Use to hate 'trade Cuz' threads but now feel they are inevitable and a good way to have better discussion of his 'net worth'. Without such discussions it's all 'he's an all-star and anyone mentioning a trade is a traitor'.
We've read here a hundred ways Cuz in a great all-star talent. In the past we have seldom heard discussions f his flaws of which he has a few significant ones. For me his potential talent clearly out weighs his flaws. He has not brought us anything near a winning season. Signs now ar that he could be a significant contributor to a winning team this year or next year for sure. So trade him or consider what the market is for him is I have no interest in. I'in interested in what this present team can do. Things are looking up.
We've read here a hundred ways Cuz in a great all-star talent. In the past we have seldom heard discussions f his flaws of which he has a few significant ones. For me his potential talent clearly out weighs his flaws. He has not brought us anything near a winning season. Signs now ar that he could be a significant contributor to a winning team this year or next year for sure. So trade him or consider what the market is for him is I have no interest in. I'in interested in what this present team can do. Things are looking up.
I hate it as much as you do but there is a certain group of fans who will want to talk about it so it's best to just put all of it in one thread the rest of us (well, not mods) can pretty much ignore and go on with our lives. 
I cant let go VF, my head hurtsAgreed. things are looking on the up. Long may this positivism last.
i think it is worth noting though that he hasn't had the suppport from a squad to bring us near a winning season till this season and with him this season we are above .500 with our only bad losses coming to boston in mexico and charlotte. Hell he didnt have a running mate till Rudy came by.
Demarcus is more than just a significant contributor on a winning team. He is it. The piece that a winning team and season is built around. The golden goose. Hence why i dont understand any notion of trading him as any team that gets gifted Demarcus will simply build a system around him, add a strong defensive oriented coach, steady squad and compete for a championship. You know what we kinda should be doing here but hey wining is wining and ill take it.
i think it is worth noting though that he hasn't had the suppport from a squad to bring us near a winning season till this season and with him this season we are above .500 with our only bad losses coming to boston in mexico and charlotte. Hell he didnt have a running mate till Rudy came by.
Demarcus is more than just a significant contributor on a winning team. He is it. The piece that a winning team and season is built around. The golden goose. Hence why i dont understand any notion of trading him as any team that gets gifted Demarcus will simply build a system around him, add a strong defensive oriented coach, steady squad and compete for a championship. You know what we kinda should be doing here but hey wining is wining and ill take it.
Because some of us, and I'm not necessarily talking about myself, tend to look a little farther into the future, it doesn't mean that it's a future we want. For instance, your on the Titanic, your able to see a future disaster, and you see the iceberg coming. It's unavoidable! While it's not something you want to happen, maybe it's something you should prepare for. Maybe have a plan! Now I can't speak for everyone, but that's how I look at it. From time to time, you have to swallow the poison pill, and if so, you might want to have an antidote lying around. We start winning on a regular basis, and it's all a moot point.
Now, having said that, I think too much of our winning or losing is laid at Cousins feet. No doubt he's a huge part of what we do, but for the team to become a consistent winner, we need others to be a part of the conversation. There are nights when the blame can be laid at the feet of any number of players, but there's a tendency to always make Cuz the focal point of every win or loss. Last night, I thought Cuz played a very good game despite being below his league average in point and rebounds. He played good defense with 4 blocks and 2 steals. He had 4 or 5 assists and only 2 turnovers. It wasn't perfect, but he seemed realize that it wasn't going to be his night in the post, so he adjusted and started passing the ball out of the post. His outside shot wasn't dropping, so he stopped taking it. he only took 13 shots in the game, but ended up being more effective by giving those shots to someone else. I call that growth. I thought he had a Tim Duncan type of game. No one looks at Duncan's stats anymore, they only look to see if the Spurs won or not.
I want to add, that I thought that Ben Mclemore had a very nice game. His defense was very very good, and when on DeRozan, DeRozan struggled. Most of DeRozan's points came off of switches, or when Ben wasn't in the game. Personally I would have gone to man to man with Ben on DeRozan, but I'm not the coach. (I'm not a big fan of the Rondo/Collison backcourt) I bring this up because Ben seems to come up on the forum only when he plays badly. Of late, and I've been a big critic of his, he's been playing like an NBA SG. So lets give credit when it's due.
Now, having said that, I think too much of our winning or losing is laid at Cousins feet. No doubt he's a huge part of what we do, but for the team to become a consistent winner, we need others to be a part of the conversation. There are nights when the blame can be laid at the feet of any number of players, but there's a tendency to always make Cuz the focal point of every win or loss. Last night, I thought Cuz played a very good game despite being below his league average in point and rebounds. He played good defense with 4 blocks and 2 steals. He had 4 or 5 assists and only 2 turnovers. It wasn't perfect, but he seemed realize that it wasn't going to be his night in the post, so he adjusted and started passing the ball out of the post. His outside shot wasn't dropping, so he stopped taking it. he only took 13 shots in the game, but ended up being more effective by giving those shots to someone else. I call that growth. I thought he had a Tim Duncan type of game. No one looks at Duncan's stats anymore, they only look to see if the Spurs won or not.
I want to add, that I thought that Ben Mclemore had a very nice game. His defense was very very good, and when on DeRozan, DeRozan struggled. Most of DeRozan's points came off of switches, or when Ben wasn't in the game. Personally I would have gone to man to man with Ben on DeRozan, but I'm not the coach. (I'm not a big fan of the Rondo/Collison backcourt) I bring this up because Ben seems to come up on the forum only when he plays badly. Of late, and I've been a big critic of his, he's been playing like an NBA SG. So lets give credit when it's due.