Kings and free agency - part 2

[hrdboild]

This is what I've got...

Cousins...............14.7
Gay.....................12.4
Rondo...................9.5
Belinelli.................6
Collison.................5
McLemore............3.1
Cauley-Stein.........2.8
Moreland.................9
Ellington..................9
McCallum................9
Anderson.................9?
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Total.....................57.1 (out of 69)

I don't think the Stockton deal is guaranteed and I haven't seen yet how much James Anderson got.

EDIT: Bumped Belinelli up to $6 million. Thanks Gilles!

 

[Bricklayer]

I think Bass would be a good idea. Familiar with Rondo and has a very solid jumpshot, even shot corner 3's under Stevens and is athletic enough to run the floor and defend.

Why would we want to get back an even more midrange oriented Carl?

 

[The Chico]

I see Josh Smith being the next target and could be had at a decent price too, with room for Omri.

 

[Bricklayer]

As long as Rondo knows that the ball goes to Cousins 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th it should be OK. This ain't Rondo's team.

Well its not like Rondo is know for eating up shots himself.

 

[KingMilz]

Why would we want to get back an even more midrange oriented Carl?

Bass plays D and still has good athletic ability but

 

[ShastaKingsFan]

As long as Rondo knows that the ball goes to Cousins 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th it should be OK. This ain't Rondo's team.

He'll be setting up Rudy a lot

 

[rainmaker]

If we're bringing in Rondo, Belinelli may need to start.

Rondo also reportedly asked for a shooter before signing, then we inked Marco.

I'd say Marco is starting.

 

[Bricklayer]

yeah but exact same skillset (worse) than Rondo

Worse things than a wise old head at the end of the bench who can fill in for your starter if there's an injury.

 

[SacTownKid]

Well its not like Rondo is know for eating up shots himself.

Bu he has been known to pound the rock into a mushy pile of orange.

 

[lawlman91]

Now we
1. Get a big
2. Figure out the coaching situation

 

[Bosnian Diehard]

Well its not like Rondo is know for eating up shots himself.

Yup. At Dallas, he only averaged 9.7 FGA (in the 2007-08 championship year, he averaged 9.3). Wasn't a chucker even in his worst days.

 

[The_Jamal]

Kosta Koufos.

Don't see why we aren't on him. Need a big badly and he's ripe for the taking. Most teams are out of money and most teams in the market for a C already got their guy.

 

[Gilles]

This is what I've got...

Cousins...............14.7
Gay.....................12.4
Rondo...................9.5
Belinelli.................5.3? (5.3, 6.4, 7.4)
Collison.................5
McLemore............3.1
Cauley-Stein.........2.8
Moreland.................9
Ellington..................9
McCallum................9
Anderson.................9?
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Total.....................56.4 (out of 69)

One of national writers correctly reported that Belinelli got just above MLE - his contract starts at $6 million.
And Rondo's salary being at around $9.5 and not at $10 might be a very important distinction in how incoming contracts would be structured.

 

[funkykingston]

As long as Rondo knows that the ball goes to Cousins 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th it should be OK. This ain't Rondo's team.

Rondo has always been at his best with other weapons to pass to. Allen, Pierce and Garnett isn't worlds away from Bellinelli/McLemore, Gay and Cousins. It should work out okay.

And honestly, if a year ago we knew we'd be signing Bellinelli and Rondo to give us a Rondo, Bellinelli, Gay, WCS, Cousins starting lineup I think a lot of Kings fans would be thrilled.

Yeah, Rondo is essentially using us on a one year deal but this is the kind of risk that a small market team has to take. Will he return to form? I have no idea. But while I wasn't thrilled with the endless fascination with Rondo, the reality is that the possibility exists that he'll have a resurgence in Sacramento and at least approach the type of player he was when people were putting him in the conversation as the best PG in the league. And honestly if Karl is still in place I think he'll be an infinitely better match for Rondo than Carlisle was.

The Kings still need to acquire a backup (or starting) big to replace JT's role as a fringe starter/3rd big off the bench but assuming Casspi is resigned, the Kings HAVE upgraded their roster.

 

[Entity]

Ok shooter check
Playmaker with defense check
Backcourt depth check
Vlade is doing it guys

One more important signing. A PF with experience that is a quality role player to hold the fort down til WCS is ready

Then secondary signings a fourth big and casspi

 

[Draft2007]

Now we
1. Get a big
2. Figure out the coaching situation

Number 2 is what scares me the most

 

[Bosnian Diehard]

So far, we've turned into Thompson/Landry/Stauskas/future first (top-10 protected**) into ROndo/Belinelly/$12 million in cap room.

Me likey.

 

[Bricklayer]

BTW:

Rondo (94) + Belinelli (48) playoff games = 142

Cousins (0) + McLemore (0) + Rudy (7) + Collison (29) + WCS ( 0 ) = 36

 

[kpm308]

I see a lot of talk about Casspi's money (if he's re signed) coming out of out cap space, but won't we still have the room MLE, almost 3 million, available once the cap space is gone? Seems like that would be enough for Omri and would allow us to hold onto all the cap space for a bigger contract

 

[funkykingston]

Ok shooter check
Playmaker with defense check
Backcourt depth check
Vlade is doing it guys

One more important signing. A PF with experience that is a quality role player to hold the fort down til WCS is ready

Then secondary signings a fourth big and casspi

I think we'll see the Kings going hard after Josh Smith and/or Kosta Koufos next.

 

[KingsFanGER]

Why would we want to get back an even more midrange oriented Carl?

Cause maybe we need a big able to play pick&pop with Rondo, which was Bass's bread and butter until Rondo left. And because maybe we need a big next to DMC, that's able to hit a mid range shot to give Cousins some space.

 

[Bricklayer]

I see a lot of talk about Casspi's money (if he's re signed) coming out of out cap space, but won't we still have the room MLE, almost 3 million, available once the cap space is gone? Seems like that would be enough for Omri and would allow us to hold onto all the cap space for a bigger contract

MLE only for teams above the cap. Now LLE is...hmmm...not sure.

Of course if I'm Omri and I see Aminu on Day 1 sign for $7.5mil a seaosn I'm thinking wait! I was as good as that guy last year!

 

[hrdboild]

I still think we need a wing defender on the bench in addition to another big. Casspi is nice depth, but I don't like him being the only backup SF on the roster. I suppose if Karl wants to play Rondo and Collison together (stupid idea) and Rudy at the 4 (grrr) that means both McLemore and Belinelli are now SFs. But that's not what I would do. Keep everybody at their natural positions, replace George Karl with Thibodeau, get Harkless and O'Quinn from Orlando, then re-sign Casspi after we're capped out using the smaller cap exception. And there might even be a little money left to sign another big.

Rondo..........McLemore........Gay............Cauley-Stein.....Cousins
Collison........Belinelli............Harkless.....Moreland...........O'Quinn
.....................Anderson..........Casspi

We'd be a little thin up front (especially with experience) but that's a well structured roster that would play well for a defensive minded coach with a half-court offense.

 

[ShastaKingsFan]

Omri is not selfish or greedy. He really wants to play for us

 

[KingMilz]

Rasual Butler on a 1 year deal if we don't get Casspi would not be bad, last year for the first half of the year dude was killing it. Another shooter to spread the floor.

 

[New Era]

George Karl is not going to be replaced with Tibs or for anybody for that matter...we really just need to move on from that.

 

[Chubbs]

Anybody find it odd that Woj tweeted all the bad things about the kings for weeks. He hasn't tweeted or re-tweeted either the signing of belinelli or rondo.

Woj can eat crow AFAIC.

And by crow I mean crap if that wasn't clear.

 

[kpm308]

Pretty sure there is a new MLE called the Room MLE for teams that use cap space, a little smaller than the regular MLE. Started with the new CBA. It's in #25 on the Larry Coon FAQ

 

[hrdboild]

George Karl is not going to be replaced with Tibs or for anybody for that matter...we really just need to move on from that.

If he wants to play a two PG offense when we actually have two good SGs on the roster and one of the best SFs in the league, I'm actively campaigning for his removal.

 

[Capt. Factorial]

MLE only for teams above the cap. Now LLE is...hmmm...not sure.

Of course if I'm Omri and I see Aminu on Day 1 sign for $7.5mil a seaosn I'm thinking wait! I was as good as that guy last year!

"Room MLE" is new this CBA ($2.8M this year), for teams that are under the cap and spend up to it. Omri would fit in nicely, unless he gets a feeling he can get more money elsewhere.