Kings and free agency - part 2

[Amit149]

That's a huge bet on his health... too rich for my blood... team option maybe???

 

[Jojimbo]

List of solid/good FAs we have a chance at

PG- Reggie Jackson/Rajon Rondo/Jeremy Lin/Patrick Beverly/Mo Williams/Aaron Brooks
SG- Rodney Stuckey/Gerald Green
SF- Tobias Harris/ Corey Brewer/Mirza Teletovic/Omri Casspi/Landry Fields
PF- Jordan Hill/Luis Scola
C- Robin Lopez/Kosta Kofus/Bismack Biyombo/JaVale McGee

This. I don't think Matthews is the end all be all.

 

[Bricklayer]

Well, they said the Vladfather was going to make him an offer he could not refuse.

If nothing else if Dallas matches we will have nicely ****ed over a WC rival.

 

[Amit149]

I am not sure what frighten me more- if he signs the contract or if he doesn't...

 

[Bricklayer]

This. I don't think Matthews is the end all be all.

Healthy he really is. Healthy he is perfect. Tough, defensive, utterly prolfiic 3pt spot shooter...not a star, but exactly the guy in the entire NBA you'd want out there to help Cuz.

Then unfortunately this happened:

 

[Nikolizzle]

I am not sure what frighten me more- if he signs the contract or if he doesn't...

Well, if he does, you'd have to assume it would be pending a medical.

 

[Bosnian Diehard]

Kinda a win-win imo. We get our top target or Dallas overpays for their second or third target.

 

[SacKings384]

Healthy he really is. Healthy he is perfect. Tough, defensive, utterly prolfiic 3pt spot shooter...not a star, but exactly the guy in the entire NBA you'd want out there to help Cuz.

Not a star and yet the highest paid player on our team if he takes the deal...

 

[Amit149]

Well, if he does, you'd have to assume it would be pending a medical.

I think you are over rating Medical staff abillity to get a clear conclusion... it's really hard to determine if he will fully recover when he has yet to recover...

 

[Bosnian Diehard]

Not a star and yet the highest paid player on our team if he takes the deal...

Because the two stars we already have are very underpaid.

 

[Rain man]

4/64 is HUGE money, but is not that much more silly than 4/40 for Shumpert, 4/60 for Carroll, whatever that crazy deal Amir Johnson signed, etc… Overpay? Absolutely. But it is what the market is demanding right now for these guys. The fact that the cap is going so damn high next year is making teams spend silly money without regret. We are already all-in after the trade. Why not make sure you get Wes?

 

[Jojimbo]

Heat are looking at Lou Williams

 

[Entity]

Healthy he really is. Healthy he is perfect. Tough, defensive, utterly prolfiic 3pt spot shooter...not a star, but exactly the guy in the entire NBA you'd want out there to help Cuz.

While that is true. Do you bricklayer the GM pull the trigger on this? I am fully ok with it if you get 75+ games out of him

 

[jdbraver]

Kinda a win-win imo. We get our top target or Dallas overpays for their second or third target.

You are assuming they are matching. They don't have to

 

[rainmaker]

I'd be feeling better about 4/64 if we weren't playing next season on top of that burial ground.

 

[Peter_Gibbons]

I'm not sure you can sign Koufus, Stuckey and Omri in 14-15, Koufus might command big bucks... but if we can do it it's pretty nice.

Omri would be signed after we use up the cap.

 

[Bricklayer]

Not a star and yet the highest paid player on our team if he takes the deal...

Well that's happening all over the league right now. DeMarre Carrol earns more than Steph Curry now. Just a crossover moment between tow different leaguewide salary plateuas.

 

[Entity]

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Well, they said the Vladfather was going to make him an offer he could not refuse.

If nothing else if Dallas matches we will have nicely ****ed over a WC rival.

suspect they won't have to match just up their offer about 2 mil

 

[Bosnian Diehard]

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suspect they won't have to match just up their offer about 2 mil

Which I don' think they will. (They want either DJ or Hibbert)

 

[Amit149]

Omit would be signed after we use up the cap.

We have no Bird rights on him, so it's not possible (was on a 1 year contract)

 

[ESP47]

Everyone is overpaying for everyone so this is no different. The only thing that worries me about this is that it turns into Carl Landry x10 if his injury turns him into a shell of his former self.

Signing him helps our starting lineup but hurts our bench as far as having the ability to afford more free agents. As we saw last year, it takes more than just a good performing starting lineup to win.

 

[Rain man]

While that is true. Do you bricklayer the GM pull the trigger on this? I am fully ok with it if you get 75+ games out of him

I would do it. I wouldn't be happy about 16 per year, but that deal looks less crazy when the cap is 90m next year, and even higher the following year. The days of good role players getting 12-15 million are upon us.

 

[Bricklayer]

Everyone is overpaying for everyone so this is no different. The only thing that worries me about this is that it turns into Carl Landry x10 if his injury turns him into a shell of his former self.

Signing him helps our starting lineup but hurts our bench as far as having the ability to afford more free agents. As we saw last year, it takes more than just a good performing starting lineup to win.

Signign Matthews, if healthy, makes Ben a bencher. Always a good way to strengthen your bench by bumping your old starters back.

 

[Amit149]

I would do it. I wouldn't be happy about 16 per year, but that deal looks less crazy when the cap is 90m next year, and even higher the following year. The days of good role players getting 12-15 million are upon us.

The problem is not the 16 mil, if it's fully guaranteed 4 years with no team option- you are taking a huge bet, and if you miss you are basically the Nets- only in the loaded west...

 

[ElRey]

Matthews probably trying to get Portland and Dallas to match or up their offer right now...

 

[km23]

I love following this board but gosh people are so up and down on here. Soon as something good starts to happen such as we may have a chance to sign FA such as rondo and Wes people start to only point out the negatives.. we're in Sacramento, we've never been the spot for people to want to come, plus with all this drama going on that just tops it off, so if you don't think we're really gonna have to over pay for higher end free agents, think again , oh and we're probably gonna have to overpay the the lesser guys as well just to come here, so let's go get Wes and Rondo and not look back.

 

[The Hammer]

None, but as long as there's a chance you are still in the game, and I'm not sure we can afford to lose this (or even admit to it...)

BTW Carmichael Dave thinks is going to the Mavs and just tweeted:
Carmichael Dave ‏@CarmichaelDave
DUN DUNN DUNNNNNN

After someone tweeted Parsons now followes Matthews...

Dude you misinterpret negatively anything you can get your eyes on.

 

[Rain man]

Well that's happening all over the league right now. DeMarre Carrol earns more than Steph Curry now. Just a crossover moment between tow different leaguewide salary plateuas.

Totally agree. $16m is jarring because that is what a superstar makes on a max deal under the current cap. With the new cap, benchers are going to make $6-10m, good role players $10-15, and superstars around $20m. It is the only way teams will be able to spend $120m in payroll. We are seeing the beginning of the adjustment this offseason. In one way, we are really lucky because our two best players are locked up long term to deals that will be "bargains" by the end of this offseason, and will only become bigger bargains the next three years.

 

[Amit149]

Dude you misinterpret negatively anything you can get your eyes on.

I'll like your post on this one, because I deserve it...

 

[Jojimbo]

Anyone know what reggie jackson is going for? I know he's restricted