Maybe, maybe not. If you're making a big pitch to someone, you want to do it in person. If Vlade is looking to sell Sacramento, then he's hoping for a big time commitment, and with that will probably come quite a bit of money. Odds are he probably just heard was Ellis was offered, and offered a little more. It really wasn't that much more than what he signed for, in the grand scheme of things.
Kings trade JT, Nik and Landry to Sixers (renamed)
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People are misunderstanding the trade.
Philly has the right to swap picks the next 2 years. This is only relivent if Philly has a better record than the Kings. If we convey the pick to Chicago then nothing happens with Philly. The 2018 pick is top 10 protected. I haven't heard what happens if we keep the pick in future years.
Philly has the right to swap picks the next 2 years. This is only relivent if Philly has a better record than the Kings. If we convey the pick to Chicago then nothing happens with Philly. The 2018 pick is top 10 protected. I haven't heard what happens if we keep the pick in future years.
Right on!
We are going to the playoffs next year. We have one of the best bigs in the league to go along with a very good SF and decent PG. You add a good free agent to the bunch and we have strong talent. And, oh yeah, - we also have a coach destined for the HOF and a guy in the FO who knows b-ball and is taking charge.
I did not even need to mention the new arena.
I don't think we could have done much better, given our current rep around the league. Personally, as I said before, losing JT is the only thing that bugs me, because we weakened our team with his loss. We didn't do so with Landry and Stauskas. Will we miss out on FA? It's a legit possibility, but it's also time to take that risk. Sitting back and watching most of our draft picks do nothing (which is an entirely different issue) while Cousins rots isn't going to make us any better. Vlade went all in - at least to the extent that he could, and I think he might pull it off.
He will overpay for Matthews (duh), but I think we'll still have room for someone like Lin or Stuckey. My main concern (again) is that our frontcourt is now weak. We'll need a player to help there, but maybe that's where the Euro 2nd rounders will come in.
He will overpay for Matthews (duh), but I think we'll still have room for someone like Lin or Stuckey. My main concern (again) is that our frontcourt is now weak. We'll need a player to help there, but maybe that's where the Euro 2nd rounders will come in.
prove it.
When I watch American Pickers I really enjoy the banter and haggling, but I always laugh at the imaginary returns they post after they buy some piece of junk. "picked this vintage harley gas cap for $150, I'm going to ask $300. Therefore this is a +$150 pick".
Imaginary fantasy returns compare so favorably to real life returns. In real life, that harley gas cap sits on the shelf until his grand-children throw it away after he dies.
We tried to trade JT for 3 or 4 years in vain. Nik was rumored in swaps for late draft picks this year that never materialized. The Landry deal was mocked and trounced on this board since the day it was inked.
You can't compare the cap dump with imaginary fantastic scenarios where we got more for those pieces. It isn't honest.
When I watch American Pickers I really enjoy the banter and haggling, but I always laugh at the imaginary returns they post after they buy some piece of junk. "picked this vintage harley gas cap for $150, I'm going to ask $300. Therefore this is a +$150 pick".
Imaginary fantasy returns compare so favorably to real life returns. In real life, that harley gas cap sits on the shelf until his grand-children throw it away after he dies.
We tried to trade JT for 3 or 4 years in vain. Nik was rumored in swaps for late draft picks this year that never materialized. The Landry deal was mocked and trounced on this board since the day it was inked.
You can't compare the cap dump with imaginary fantastic scenarios where we got more for those pieces. It isn't honest.
After doing the math, I'm not against getting Rondo and Matthews. We really have to stretch it (and I don't know how much we just gave Anderson) but if Rondo gets 8M this year and 10M next year and we offer Matthews 50M/4yrs starting at 11M next year we still have a little money left to fill in the bench and a room exception deal once we're capped out. We'd be selling Matthews on the chance to win here over Dallas or Toronto.
REMINDER: This thread is now for discussion of the trade. Discussion on free agency is in the Free Agency AFTER THE TRADE thread. And new acquisitions for the Kings will be getting their own threads for discussion, too. It's great to have enough people discussing things that we can actually support having multiple threads. It's been a long time since this happened in TDOS. 
Jason Jones @mr_jasonjones 26s26 seconds ago
Kings will make Wesley Matthews an offer that will be hard to refuse
Where's that Vladfather pic?
Kings will make Wesley Matthews an offer that will be hard to refuse
Where's that Vladfather pic?
Did you not watch the Kings last year??? Do you not remember that JT was starting and playing major minutes and play solid defense that freed up Cousins and saved him from foul trouble and that JT was grabbing boards and getting buckets and the Kings were kicking ass and taking names?? Have you not watched the NBA long enough to understand that role players like that are ****ing VALUABLE and every championship team has them??
And do you REALLY think future first round picks are somehow "imaginary fantastic scenarios" but freeing up cap space to sign big name free agents in Sacramento is NOT??? Monte ****ing Ellis just turned down more money from us to play in ****ing INDIANA but somehow we should trust that Vivek is gonna use that $24mm to lure in those big name FAs and not just use it wipe his ass or to hire the next GM when he inevitably cans everyone in the organization again
And do you REALLY think future first round picks are somehow "imaginary fantastic scenarios" but freeing up cap space to sign big name free agents in Sacramento is NOT??? Monte ****ing Ellis just turned down more money from us to play in ****ing INDIANA but somehow we should trust that Vivek is gonna use that $24mm to lure in those big name FAs and not just use it wipe his ass or to hire the next GM when he inevitably cans everyone in the organization again
