Malone fired
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I can see that argument. But I'd also think that's why Sacramento fell in love with CD -- his unfiltered opinions. His role in the grassroots movements. If he were fired due to his opinion, it would only fuel the fire that Vivek is not too far from the Maloofs in ideology. CD has a large following that all respect him. A lot of that appeal is his non-corporate, one-of-us persona. But I do know that Napier gets a lot of grief, in one instance in particular, his defense of Petrie's T-Rob trade for Patterson was criticized heavily, when in reality he was right. Patterson was a better NBA player than T-Rob and still is. We are all just, as Brian Sabean puts it, a part of the "Lunatic Fringe."
When it comes down to it, I thought Malone was a good coach. I like where he took our team, how he made them fighters who played some d and would try to grind out wins. The recent losses however, in my opinion, have been on him. Our record should not be 11-13. I feel very strongly about that. Losing to the Lakers, the Pistons, the Magic, we should have lost to the Pacers too but got lucky. We blew a lot of games, A LOT. I can almost safely bet that we have more second half/fourth quarter leads that have resulted in losses than anyone else in the league. I have watched every game and know that they have all been winnable even without Cousins. Not having him around made it easier for us to accept the losses, but realistically we should not have been losing those games. Collison and Gay are having the best years of their careers, Mclemore is kind of a defensive stud who can go for 16 like its nothing, and Thompson is one of the best defensive bigs in the league. Our team should not be 11-13, simple as that in the FO's eyes. I hope we get Karl or SVG because, like I said, Malone was a very good coach, but he couldn't get our team to win, and we were losing our playoff hopes fast. I'm a fan of the move (pretty sure its PDA's) but sad to see Malone leave nonetheless. We reacted like this to all their (FO's) actions over summer but they shocked us with the team's performance this year. They expect more than what's happening right now, and I do too. Good move, tough timing.
Yeah, I caught a little. It was pretty comical. The other jokers were in full spin move. Dave was in 90% spin move and trying to move this forward ... and would occasionally say a toned down and non-direct version of what he must think - this makes very little sense.
Somebody called in an called Dave a homer and he got upset saying "Didn't I just say A, B, C." Yeah Dave, you were honest for 10% of the time and blatantly and transparently contradicted that the remainder of the time. You want a cookie?
In the end, I don't blame Dave. The station management clearly doesn't care about being anything other than a PR win for it's media partner and Dave was already fired once for being too honest.
Somebody called in an called Dave a homer and he got upset saying "Didn't I just say A, B, C." Yeah Dave, you were honest for 10% of the time and blatantly and transparently contradicted that the remainder of the time. You want a cookie?
In the end, I don't blame Dave. The station management clearly doesn't care about being anything other than a PR win for it's media partner and Dave was already fired once for being too honest.
Now see here's the educational moment for our front office children: sans Cousins, we SUCK. We have no talent. We are bottom 10 in the NBA talentwise, maybe bottom 5. We. SUCK.
The entire reason why we were IN those games to start with was because these guys believed in and played for Michael Malone. They didn't play for some bald little front office beancounter. They didn't play for the little tech king still learning the game. They played for Michael Malone. And so they played ABOVE their talent to even be in position to win. Without Cousins we aren't more talented than Detroit. In fact on talent, its not even that close. The single most important thing ANY coach can do has absolutely nothing to do with ****ing substitution patterns. That stuff is nothing. Its all we seize on because its all we can see, but its nothing. The entire trick is to get guys to play their asses off for you in a scheme that's capable of wining. Malone had all that going for him this year. What he didn't have was talent after Cousins left. And who knows here, maybe we have the classic GM fires the coach to excuse his own crapty job performance scenario. Has happened 1000 times in the NBA. Maybe the Vivek axe was over PDA's neck, so he passed along the favor. Who knows. Except I know that these losers showed no patience, vision, or understanding of exactly what it takes to win in the NBA. And of course why should they? As a front office they're neophytes, rookies, children, they don't know jack or squat about it. They've never won anything, they've never built anything, they aren't fit to pass judgment on the dance team, let alone the coaching performance of an NBA lifer who has his team's ear.
The entire reason why we were IN those games to start with was because these guys believed in and played for Michael Malone. They didn't play for some bald little front office beancounter. They didn't play for the little tech king still learning the game. They played for Michael Malone. And so they played ABOVE their talent to even be in position to win. Without Cousins we aren't more talented than Detroit. In fact on talent, its not even that close. The single most important thing ANY coach can do has absolutely nothing to do with ****ing substitution patterns. That stuff is nothing. Its all we seize on because its all we can see, but its nothing. The entire trick is to get guys to play their asses off for you in a scheme that's capable of wining. Malone had all that going for him this year. What he didn't have was talent after Cousins left. And who knows here, maybe we have the classic GM fires the coach to excuse his own crapty job performance scenario. Has happened 1000 times in the NBA. Maybe the Vivek axe was over PDA's neck, so he passed along the favor. Who knows. Except I know that these losers showed no patience, vision, or understanding of exactly what it takes to win in the NBA. And of course why should they? As a front office they're neophytes, rookies, children, they don't know jack or squat about it. They've never won anything, they've never built anything, they aren't fit to pass judgment on the dance team, let alone the coaching performance of an NBA lifer who has his team's ear.
This!!
A great post.
I am simply terrified of future turn of events...
My only hope is that someone (PDA?) has planned this carefully, thought it through, and let our franchise player(s) in on it, and that this someone already has an agreement with a high-caliber replacement coach (like Karl) that the franchise player(s) approve of and are even excited about.
But with FO's decision making record... what are the odds this is the case??
A great post.
I am simply terrified of future turn of events...
My only hope is that someone (PDA?) has planned this carefully, thought it through, and let our franchise player(s) in on it, and that this someone already has an agreement with a high-caliber replacement coach (like Karl) that the franchise player(s) approve of and are even excited about.
But with FO's decision making record... what are the odds this is the case??
Uh we were on our way to the playoffs with this joke roster than cousins got sick. You don't fire that coach and bring winning up when you are winning. So they wang to win now than why the hell was malone not given a chance too coach with a decent defense. DWill will get 30min I knew my boy did want his sorry ass playing.
I feel sorry for the 2-3 posters who think Corbin is some decent coach. He sucks period I don't care how you like how he finished a game like that somehow means he doesn't suck.
I feel sorry for the 2-3 posters who think Corbin is some decent coach. He sucks period I don't care how you like how he finished a game like that somehow means he doesn't suck.
I don't necessary think "Up Tempo" = "Small Ball". You can play fast without going small - the Golden Era Kings is an example. And most wouldn't equate Bibby/Divac/Peja as fast tempo players either. Gay actually can be a very good up tempo player imo, just like McLemore and Collison. Of course, that's just on paper; the devil is on the court.
Why get rid of Reke and IT? Because one can't shoot and the other is selfish. I've been saying for a while now that the FO is looking for shooting and passing, and now they want to play up tempo too. To recap, the FO wants defense, shooting, passing, and up-tempo.... The Golden State Warriors' blueprint. Ambitious? Yes. Risky move to fire Malone? Yes. Will the FO get this team to that level? Boy, I sure hope so...
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Why get rid of Reke and IT? Because one can't shoot and the other is selfish. I've been saying for a while now that the FO is looking for shooting and passing, and now they want to play up tempo too. To recap, the FO wants defense, shooting, passing, and up-tempo.... The Golden State Warriors' blueprint. Ambitious? Yes. Risky move to fire Malone? Yes. Will the FO get this team to that level? Boy, I sure hope so...
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Received a few texts from around league with "wow" and "why" and "crazy" being the words used about the Kings. Waiting to hear team explain
Received a few texts from around league with "wow" and "why" and "crazy" being the words used about the Kings. Waiting to hear team explain
I think we should all start to brace ourselves for a panic / change the narrative trade in the next two weeks that involves the Kings swapping (right to swap picks with us) at least one first round pick. PDA's ass is next on the line ... so what does he care if the Kings have 2 or 3 first round picked encumbered.
She also retweeted a post implying that she felt Josh Smith was garbage.
I feel like it is obvious why this was done, the team still has winnable games ahead and they can save face doing it while in a losing spell and then getting a few quick wins appearing to be right on track.
I still am going with the "ok, my expectations are now raised". Anything else means this is just more BS. If we aren't winning by the end of next season than PDA Out.
I feel like it is obvious why this was done, the team still has winnable games ahead and they can save face doing it while in a losing spell and then getting a few quick wins appearing to be right on track.
I still am going with the "ok, my expectations are now raised". Anything else means this is just more BS. If we aren't winning by the end of next season than PDA Out.
Ok. So the chatter is saying that he was fired because his philosophy was different than that of the front office. That he was a defensive coach and the front office and ownership wanted an uptempo style. So my question is this. Why did vivek hire him in the first place? He knew what kind of coach he was from his days at Golden State. If he really liked Malone, then why didnt he hire a general manager that fit with that. Or why did he hire a coach before a general manager. The root of this issue lies at the feet of vivek for making this mistake in the first place. This was screwed from the very beginning and was doomed to fail
What is wrong with some of you. Loosing to the lakers/pistons is not a reason to fire someone that's the dumbest thing I've heard in a while.
Can't wait till he lands another job and shows you clowns what he's about when he has decent players. He turned chucking gay into all star gay. Collison is a boardaline starter, JT is a 3rd big man and nobody on our bench would crack another good teams rotation. But Malones suppose to go win games with that team. What a joke I hope he lands in NO watch what he does with that roster.
Can't wait till he lands another job and shows you clowns what he's about when he has decent players. He turned chucking gay into all star gay. Collison is a boardaline starter, JT is a 3rd big man and nobody on our bench would crack another good teams rotation. But Malones suppose to go win games with that team. What a joke I hope he lands in NO watch what he does with that roster.
Insightful read by Woj
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/the-do...kings-and-coach-michael-malone-175201188.html
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/the-do...kings-and-coach-michael-malone-175201188.html
I don't even buy that argument, logical as it may have been.
Doomed to fail how? We WEREN'T failing! And Vivek is the owner. All he had to do was say, hey, I think the coach has it right, and there is no fail. PDA works with him, and that's that.
No the fail came because somebody, whether it be Mullin, PDA, or Vivek Basketball for Dummies book, convinced him that he had to run run run to get his NBA 3.0 B.S. going, and Vivek CAUSED the fail. We a good owner, a strong owner, an owner who has a ****ing clue, there IS no fail, because he's the owner. He makes the call. No matter who initiated this, in the end it was on Vivek's desk, and the fact he signed off on it shows just the difference between being a former success in the tech business, and having a ****ing clue what he's doing as an NBA owner.
Doomed to fail how? We WEREN'T failing! And Vivek is the owner. All he had to do was say, hey, I think the coach has it right, and there is no fail. PDA works with him, and that's that.
No the fail came because somebody, whether it be Mullin, PDA, or Vivek Basketball for Dummies book, convinced him that he had to run run run to get his NBA 3.0 B.S. going, and Vivek CAUSED the fail. We a good owner, a strong owner, an owner who has a ****ing clue, there IS no fail, because he's the owner. He makes the call. No matter who initiated this, in the end it was on Vivek's desk, and the fact he signed off on it shows just the difference between being a former success in the tech business, and having a ****ing clue what he's doing as an NBA owner.
