Omri Casspi - good signing or not?
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If I am not mistaken a trade occurred approximately last week which included both Travis Outlaw and Quincy Acy of the Sacramento Kings and Jeremy Tylor and Wayne Ellington of the New York Knicks, which means that Outlaw is no longer a member of the Kings, which also means that Casspi now has a bigger role as a future Kings player if he would actually be signed, the way I see it now, he is quite better than Derrick Williams, therefore, I believe that if he signs with the Kings he will probably and hopefully be a decent role player off the bench for the Kings in the Small Forward position.
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Really? We are now Omri Casspi's Kings? WHAT?
He has not even signed a contract as far as I can tell, Is not shown on our roster at Kings.com
Just because Maccabi is coming for a pre-season game?
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Really? We are now Omri Casspi's Kings? WHAT?
He has not even signed a contract as far as I can tell, Is not shown on our roster at Kings.com
Just because Maccabi is coming for a pre-season game?
Might be the other way around, looks like Maccabi was setting up tour last month,
Maybe only reason we might sign Omri is because they are coming here LOL
I guess my point was Omri has not even signed yet, Last I heard was a PDA Quote
saying "We are in discussions"
What happened to "Omri finalizing contract" ?
Reasons for the hold up?
A . Omri waiting to see if we trade Dwill
B. Kings waiting to see if they trade Dwill
C. Kings waiting to be sure Omri is healthy after Euro ball this summer?
D. Omri holding out for guarantee of real minutes?
E. All of the Above
Maybe only reason we might sign Omri is because they are coming here LOL
I guess my point was Omri has not even signed yet, Last I heard was a PDA Quote
saying "We are in discussions"
What happened to "Omri finalizing contract" ?
Reasons for the hold up?
A . Omri waiting to see if we trade Dwill
B. Kings waiting to see if they trade Dwill
C. Kings waiting to be sure Omri is healthy after Euro ball this summer?
D. Omri holding out for guarantee of real minutes?
E. All of the Above
I think it's:
F. Kings waiting to see if they are going to execute a trade which might not be legal under the cap if Omri is signed at the time.
I think it's basically a forgone conclusion Omri will be with us next year, but for some reason we haven't made it official yet and (F) seems like the best explanation to me.
To be clear, I assume that the Kings would then sign Omri after that trade, but they might have to waive one of the salary pieces coming back before doing it. For instance, if there were a $1-2M unguaranteed contract amongst what was coming back, the Kings could make the trade, waive the player, and then sign Omri. But since you can't waive a player as part of the trade, the salary implications could be that we couldn't do that trade without waiving...Omri or Moreland, who we just signed.
F. Kings waiting to see if they are going to execute a trade which might not be legal under the cap if Omri is signed at the time.
I think it's basically a forgone conclusion Omri will be with us next year, but for some reason we haven't made it official yet and (F) seems like the best explanation to me.
To be clear, I assume that the Kings would then sign Omri after that trade, but they might have to waive one of the salary pieces coming back before doing it. For instance, if there were a $1-2M unguaranteed contract amongst what was coming back, the Kings could make the trade, waive the player, and then sign Omri. But since you can't waive a player as part of the trade, the salary implications could be that we couldn't do that trade without waiving...Omri or Moreland, who we just signed.
You're making it sound as though it's time-critical for Omri to sign the contract. I don't think that's the case. And yes, any agreement is definitely contingent upon him being passed by our doctors. He's currently playing for his national team. If he gets hurt and isn't yet under contract with us, we don't lose anything. If, on the other hand, ...
So just another little update about Omri Casspi's performence in the Eurobasket qualification tournament.
Today (Wednesday), Israel national basketball team faced the Dutch national basketball team (Netherlands), Israel defeated Netherlands in the score of 66-57.
I guess you can reckon that it was a very painful game to watch, a boring one, on paper Israel is a much better team the the Dutch team but in the actual game, the Israeli national team seemed lost and turned the ball over numerous times, struggled to score and couldn't cash in on the fast breaks they were able to achieve after intercepting the ball from the Dutch national team.
So, let's get back to our business, here are Omri's stats, Casspi scored only 9 points, he didn't attack the hoop as much as he did against Montenegro, he had a very weak game but yet was able to grab 8 rebounds in the game.
Today (Wednesday), Israel national basketball team faced the Dutch national basketball team (Netherlands), Israel defeated Netherlands in the score of 66-57.
I guess you can reckon that it was a very painful game to watch, a boring one, on paper Israel is a much better team the the Dutch team but in the actual game, the Israeli national team seemed lost and turned the ball over numerous times, struggled to score and couldn't cash in on the fast breaks they were able to achieve after intercepting the ball from the Dutch national team.
So, let's get back to our business, here are Omri's stats, Casspi scored only 9 points, he didn't attack the hoop as much as he did against Montenegro, he had a very weak game but yet was able to grab 8 rebounds in the game.
Israel just defeated recently the Bulgarian national basketball team in a score of 100-84, 16 points margin for Israel, the game was played in Bulgaria's capital city Sofia, the game is part of the 2015 Eurobasket qualifiers tournament.
Omri Casspi scored 19 points in the ball game, and was 7/11 from the FG, he also grabbed 2 rebounds and passed 2 assists, also had two steals.
Omri Casspi scored 19 points in the ball game, and was 7/11 from the FG, he also grabbed 2 rebounds and passed 2 assists, also had two steals.
Here is another update about Casspi's performance with the Israeli national basketball team in the 2015 Eurobasket qualifier tournament.
So the Israeli national team was playing against Montenegro in Montenegro, Israel defeated Montenegro in the final score of 80-65, a 15 points deficit.
As for now, Israel topped Montenegro for the first place in the division and if Israel beats Netherlands in the next game Israel will guarantee its spot in the Eurobasket 2015.
As for Casspi, he was the top scorer once again for Israel, Casspi scored 17 points ( 6/9 from the field and was 5/8 from the FT) Casspi also grabbed 8 rebounds.
But the best player was Gal Mekel from the Mavericks, he is the Israeli point guard, he finished up with a decent triple-double of 14 points, 11 rebounds and 11 assists.
So the Israeli national team was playing against Montenegro in Montenegro, Israel defeated Montenegro in the final score of 80-65, a 15 points deficit.
As for now, Israel topped Montenegro for the first place in the division and if Israel beats Netherlands in the next game Israel will guarantee its spot in the Eurobasket 2015.
As for Casspi, he was the top scorer once again for Israel, Casspi scored 17 points ( 6/9 from the field and was 5/8 from the FT) Casspi also grabbed 8 rebounds.
But the best player was Gal Mekel from the Mavericks, he is the Israeli point guard, he finished up with a decent triple-double of 14 points, 11 rebounds and 11 assists.
Here is another update about Casspi's and the Israeli national basketball team performance in the 2015 Eurobasket qualifier tournament.
So Israel faced today in a "home" game (even though played in Cyprus) against Netherlands, it was a crucial game since this game decided whether Israel qualifies to the Eurobasket in 2015 or not, Israel opened the game way better than the Dutch national team and ended it on the score of 26-5 for Israel.
The biggest margin of the game was 30 points deficit for the Dutch team which was trailing behind.
Eventually the Israeli national basketball team beat the Dutch national team in the final score of 82-60 and qualified to the 2015 Eurobasket tournament.
Here are Casspi's stats: Omri scored 22 points (6/8 from the field), he also added 8 rebounds and passed 4 assists and intercepted 2 balls.
So Israel faced today in a "home" game (even though played in Cyprus) against Netherlands, it was a crucial game since this game decided whether Israel qualifies to the Eurobasket in 2015 or not, Israel opened the game way better than the Dutch national team and ended it on the score of 26-5 for Israel.
The biggest margin of the game was 30 points deficit for the Dutch team which was trailing behind.
Eventually the Israeli national basketball team beat the Dutch national team in the final score of 82-60 and qualified to the 2015 Eurobasket tournament.
Here are Casspi's stats: Omri scored 22 points (6/8 from the field), he also added 8 rebounds and passed 4 assists and intercepted 2 balls.
Casspi will not play on 27 Aug against Bulgaria in the last game of the qualification tournament as Israel already qualified to 2015 Eurobasket and Casspi will stay several days with family in Israel mourning recent death of his grandfather.
So, here're final Casspi's statistics for the tournament :
played in 5 games, 31.8 min per game, 19.0 points per game (ranked 3rd between all participants), 23/36 (63.9%) 2 Pts field goals, 8/16 (50%) 3 Pts field goals, 7.2 rebounds per game, 2.6 assists, 1.4 steals, 3.0 turnovers.
According to Casspi's interview to Israeli TV after several days in Israel he will be heading to Sacramento to pass physical and officially sign with Kings.
So, here're final Casspi's statistics for the tournament :
played in 5 games, 31.8 min per game, 19.0 points per game (ranked 3rd between all participants), 23/36 (63.9%) 2 Pts field goals, 8/16 (50%) 3 Pts field goals, 7.2 rebounds per game, 2.6 assists, 1.4 steals, 3.0 turnovers.
According to Casspi's interview to Israeli TV after several days in Israel he will be heading to Sacramento to pass physical and officially sign with Kings.
I was wondering if we ever going to get around to doing that. We've had half a dozen guys we've been supposedly ready to sign etc. and seem to never get around to actually doing it.
Still wondering what these moves are all about. We seem to be dithering and making little fiddles around the edges like we expect the main roster to change, but then it never does.
Still wondering what these moves are all about. We seem to be dithering and making little fiddles around the edges like we expect the main roster to change, but then it never does.
Well seems like the hold up regarding Casspi was just due to his schedule with eurobasket but other signings still on hold maybe due to other players
that might have a clearer picture in the next few weeks ?
Such as Ellington which was rumored might be waived and "stretched" for 3 yrs , I think that would have to be done by 8/31
Also Jeremy Tyler gets $100,000 if not waived by 9/15
Both players are currently shown on the roster at Kings.com
that might have a clearer picture in the next few weeks ?
Such as Ellington which was rumored might be waived and "stretched" for 3 yrs , I think that would have to be done by 8/31
Also Jeremy Tyler gets $100,000 if not waived by 9/15
Both players are currently shown on the roster at Kings.com
Here are some excerpts from Casspi's interview to “Israel 102 FM” radio (sorry for not professional translation):
When asked whether he is Sacramento Kings player as he was seen participating (as guest) in some Maccabi T-A training session.
Casspi answered: “It’s not official yet. We agreed about it on Jul 30 but I still have to pass physical”
About his role in the Sacramento team he only stated that he “talked several times with Kings’ GM which explained his goal is to build young strong team and it seems good time to return there now”
Summarizing previous seasons and outlook to the future Casspi says that “the first half of the season with Rockets was pretty good, and now I feel that I’m entering very important year in my career, I want to achieve major improvement this season and I really hope it will happen”
Asked if he can make requirements to the team after returning there with NBA experience (attention: this is interviewer wording, not Casspi’s...) he answered that “things depend on the coach and teammates. I think Sacramento is best option for me right now”.
Casspi states that he is now better player than “kid without bank account” he was several years ago, more complete player and can do much more things on the floor.
About possible return to Israel Casspi says that “Maccabi is the home”, and he would consider Maccabi’s proposal in the future but now “it’s still not time to come back to Israel”
Also Casspi spoke about David Blatt (Cavs’ coach, former Maccabi’s coach). He says that Blatt is great coach and certainly has chance to bring championships to Cavs, and while there’s some degree of mutual contempt between NBA and European basketball specialists David Blatt is well respected in US. But from personal point of view Casspi don’t see himself playing for Blatt in NBA.
The full interview is here : http://one.co.il/Article/238789.html (hebrew)
Now… Several things.
First, those “physical” talks became a bit annoying (especially after Maccabi’s center “Sofo” Schortsanitis didn’t pass physical returning after summer…) but I do assume Casspi will sign with Kings in several days.
Second, ““kid without bank account” is kind of aggravation as Casspi was playing professionally since he was 17 years old, and I would not count much on those talks about “most important season” and “break-out”. Actually Omri says it every summer. Even Israeli fans like myself do not really believe he will break out and became NBA star or even just NBA starter.
Still Casspi can be very useful for Kings as reserve. He’s correct that there’s improvement in his game: he’s better ball handler than before (certainly not good… but better), his shot repertoire and selection improved and while he’s heavier and stronger that in first years in NBA he regained much of his athletic abilities (one of main reason he failed in the first year in Cavs was that while trying to became stronger Casspi somehow lost much of athletic abilities he had as rookie – but now he’s much more balanced on this account). So I do believe that Omri will be able to provide meaningful minutes in both SF and PF positions.
When asked whether he is Sacramento Kings player as he was seen participating (as guest) in some Maccabi T-A training session.
Casspi answered: “It’s not official yet. We agreed about it on Jul 30 but I still have to pass physical”
About his role in the Sacramento team he only stated that he “talked several times with Kings’ GM which explained his goal is to build young strong team and it seems good time to return there now”
Summarizing previous seasons and outlook to the future Casspi says that “the first half of the season with Rockets was pretty good, and now I feel that I’m entering very important year in my career, I want to achieve major improvement this season and I really hope it will happen”
Asked if he can make requirements to the team after returning there with NBA experience (attention: this is interviewer wording, not Casspi’s...) he answered that “things depend on the coach and teammates. I think Sacramento is best option for me right now”.
Casspi states that he is now better player than “kid without bank account” he was several years ago, more complete player and can do much more things on the floor.
About possible return to Israel Casspi says that “Maccabi is the home”, and he would consider Maccabi’s proposal in the future but now “it’s still not time to come back to Israel”
Also Casspi spoke about David Blatt (Cavs’ coach, former Maccabi’s coach). He says that Blatt is great coach and certainly has chance to bring championships to Cavs, and while there’s some degree of mutual contempt between NBA and European basketball specialists David Blatt is well respected in US. But from personal point of view Casspi don’t see himself playing for Blatt in NBA.
The full interview is here : http://one.co.il/Article/238789.html (hebrew)
Now… Several things.
First, those “physical” talks became a bit annoying (especially after Maccabi’s center “Sofo” Schortsanitis didn’t pass physical returning after summer…) but I do assume Casspi will sign with Kings in several days.
Second, ““kid without bank account” is kind of aggravation as Casspi was playing professionally since he was 17 years old, and I would not count much on those talks about “most important season” and “break-out”. Actually Omri says it every summer. Even Israeli fans like myself do not really believe he will break out and became NBA star or even just NBA starter.
Still Casspi can be very useful for Kings as reserve. He’s correct that there’s improvement in his game: he’s better ball handler than before (certainly not good… but better), his shot repertoire and selection improved and while he’s heavier and stronger that in first years in NBA he regained much of his athletic abilities (one of main reason he failed in the first year in Cavs was that while trying to became stronger Casspi somehow lost much of athletic abilities he had as rookie – but now he’s much more balanced on this account). So I do believe that Omri will be able to provide meaningful minutes in both SF and PF positions.
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I'm not the biggest Casspi supporter. I was a Donte Greene guy back when that was a thing.
With that being said, despite his low end contract he might play a decent amount of minutes for this team, which is my way of saying are we sure he isn't better than Derrick Williams? because I am not sure of that. And yes, that says more about Williams than it does Casspi.
With that being said, despite his low end contract he might play a decent amount of minutes for this team, which is my way of saying are we sure he isn't better than Derrick Williams? because I am not sure of that. And yes, that says more about Williams than it does Casspi.
Well, if we just think in a simplistic view of what do we want to surround Cuz and Gay with:
Floor spacing
rebounding
Spot-up shooting
defense/hustle/energy etc
http://www.basketball-reference.com...m=0&p1=casspom01&y1=2014&p2=willide02&y2=2014
Casspi just has Williams beat across the board. I just feel Williams is a guy who needs 30+ minutes to really get into the flow of a game and ramp up a bit. Small sample, but Williams was a positive impact player in his 15 starts last season and actually had a positive +/-. His reserve numbers are drastically lower.
For what we want in the 15 MPG out of the back-up SF, I feel Casspi brings a lot more to the team than Williams does.
Floor spacing
rebounding
Spot-up shooting
defense/hustle/energy etc
http://www.basketball-reference.com...m=0&p1=casspom01&y1=2014&p2=willide02&y2=2014
Casspi just has Williams beat across the board. I just feel Williams is a guy who needs 30+ minutes to really get into the flow of a game and ramp up a bit. Small sample, but Williams was a positive impact player in his 15 starts last season and actually had a positive +/-. His reserve numbers are drastically lower.
For what we want in the 15 MPG out of the back-up SF, I feel Casspi brings a lot more to the team than Williams does.
