Top 3 pick selection?

[rainmaker]

Sorry, But I'm not a natieve english speaker. In fact, i've never live in a country like USA o UK, only in Spain. So my english isn't good.

No need to apologize, we love foreigners here. Have a number of them from all over the world. I think it's great this game is growing so much internationally that fans from all over the world participate in NBA forums.

And, if it makes you feel any better, your post was easier to understand and had fewer errors than a few of our native English speaking posters, which is something I'll never understand.

 

[Glenn]

No need to apologize, we love foreigners here. Have a number of them from all over the world. I think it's great this game is growing so much internationally that fans from all over the world participate in NBA forums.

And, if it makes you feel any better, your post was easier to understand and had fewer errors than a few of our native English speaking posters, which is something I'll never understand.

I just wet my pants and, no, it's not an age related problem. Well .... maybe a little.

 

[Bricklayer]

I think the worst about embiid is that he isn't ready and a with de most gifted bigman since sabonis and the most dominant since shaq have to play PO. So I think embiid isn't the best pick. The same for exum. Even wiggins isn't ready

There is something to that, but that's true of Embid, Wiggins, Exum. MAYBE Parker might be able to provide immediate help. Maybe. But as a rookie is he already going to be better than Gay?

Basically if we get lucky enough to get a Top 3 pick we have to make that one for the future. Try to take somebody who will be a star in a few years and hope that Cousins can see the talent and will be willing to wait for it.

BTW, su ingles esta bien.

 

[Tetsujin]

Personally I would take Embiid with 1st pick, but his injuries are really concerning. The last can't miss big man out of college also had injury concerns coming out... his name? Greg Oden. So, yes Embiid injury scares me. He could be the defensive stopper next to DMC for the next ten years or he could be the next greg oden. Hopefully he can stay healthy, because if he can, the Kings Front court would be set for the next 10 years.

1) Embiid
2) Wiggins
3) Exum

Completely different injuries. Oden had knee problems which are pretty much the death knell for big men. Also important to note that Blake Griffin also blew out his knee immediately upon being drafted and wound up just fine and still perfectly capable of flopping and dunking around cars. Whenever a big man has knee problems, I'm immediately wary (we have C-Webb and Shareef to thank for that). Embiid, thankfully, does not.

 

[Mass]

I think the worst about embiid is that he isn't ready and a with de most gifted bigman since sabonis and the most dominant since shaq have to play PO. So I think embiid isn't the best pick. The same for exum. Even wiggins isn't ready

So who's ready?!?

 

[Tetsujin]

So who's ready?!?

 

[spaniard]

There is something to that, but that's true of Embid, Wiggins, Exum. MAYBE Parker might be able to provide immediate help. Maybe. But as a rookie is he already going to be better than Gay?

Basically if we get lucky enough to get a Top 3 pick we have to make that one for the future. Try to take somebody who will be a star in a few years and hope that Cousins can see the talent and will be willing to wait for it.

BTW, su ingles esta bien.

I doubt about that. I think parker isn't a carmelo or a paul pierce. It's true that he is a polished player. I fact, i love his game, but his MM makes me think that he won't be great as a roockie.

I think that we have to compete. So if we had the 1º pick, I'd pick embiid. But I'd only pick him, if we could get a good trade. I we go on waiting, boogie will go to WW with john wall. We have boogie, we have ben mc, we have IT, we have rudy gay, we have talent. So, we don't need a franchise player, neither a 2º/3º option, we good players who can have an impact in the game since their first match. I f we can get a 2º option, it's better. But the most important is playing PO the next season

 

[spaniard]

No need to apologize, we love foreigners here. Have a number of them from all over the world. I think it's great this game is growing so much internationally that fans from all over the world participate in NBA forums.

And, if it makes you feel any better, your post was easier to understand and had fewer errors than a few of our native English speaking posters, which is something I'll never understand.

Thanks to you and to Bricklayer

I would like to know if there are any native spanish and english speaker here. It would great for me because it could help me a lot. Specially with the phrasal verbs because they very difficult for us. But I can understand easily the latin rooted veerbs.

Bricklayer "su" is a very polished and formal word when means "your". I think that "tu" is a more appropiate word when you are talking with a spaniard. With latin americans is different specially with argentinians.

 

[spaniard]

So who's ready?!?

I think that people like julius randle, james young or marcus smart are ready.

It's true that randle is a less finished prospect than parker or wiggins, but I think he is more ready. Just remember the 2010 nba draft. Boogie was a less finished prospect than favors or monroe but he was more ready. Randle is a gifted competitive beast. On the other hand I would like to know if he is a better shooter what he has shown in ncaa. In HS he had a good range. I watched him in hoops summit. And I loved his game.

 

[Gary]

I think the worst about embiid is that he isn't ready and a with de most gifted bigman since sabonis and the most dominant since shaq have to play PO. So I think embiid isn't the best pick. The same for exum. Even wiggins isn't ready

See, I cannot agree with that. I think Wiggins is probably going to be the most NBA ready of the top picks. I would have no problems with drafting him, even with Embiid available, but I still do prefer Embiid. I think he would play well next to cousins as a weak side, or help defender, or just switch the two and have cousins as weak side or help if Embiids D is that dominant.

 

[Mass]

Well, I really don't think Randle is the kind of player I want to pair with Cuz. Then, I believe it's not really a matter of who is more ready to play in the NBA right now. You have to select the player you believe will be the best in his prime.

As I said, if we end up with a top 3 pick I would go with Embiid. But I would also be very happy with Wiggins. And if they are gone, it would be a tough decision between Parker and Exum.

 

[Rockmeister]

Now I am going to get super duper depressed when we have the 7th or 8th pick lol.

You better start getting duper depressed.

 

[spaniard]

Well, I really don't think Randle is the kind of player I want to pair with Cuz. Then, I believe it's not really a matter of who is more ready to play in the NBA right now. You have to select the player you believe will be the best in his prime.

As I said, if we end up with a top 3 pick I would go with Embiid. But I would also be very happy with Wiggins. And if they are gone, it would be a tough decision between Parker and Exum.

The best prime is a lie. It's only a possibility, not a fact. But, who is the best now, is a fact. And randle is better than embiid wiggins and parker now. He has been the most dominant player in ncaa. Every team had to double-teamed him, even triple-teamed. If he is the fit, i don't know. Althougt, i'm sure that he isn't the worsl, specially if he has a better range than people thinks he has (he had it a year ago). He could be a 14points 8rebounds man as a roockie.

When people is talking about upside, potential, ceiling, usually forget that the most important are the feeling for the game, not the atleticism, or the tehcnic/skills. And randle have a great feeling for the game. I'm sure that is there is an underrated top prospect in this draft, is randle.

 

[funkykingston]

See, I cannot agree with that. I think Wiggins is probably going to be the most NBA ready of the top picks. I would have no problems with drafting him, even with Embiid available, but I still do prefer Embiid. I think he would play well next to cousins as a weak side, or help defender, or just switch the two and have cousins as weak side or help if Embiids D is that dominant.

It's an interesting assertion. I'd agree insofar as Wiggins is the most likely to contribute early out of himself, Embiid, Exum and Parker. I think he has the mindset to start his pro career as a role player and carve out a bigger place on the team as he grows. I think he can run in transition, at least get by defensively, work on his catch and shoot etc and then gradually develop his ball handling, passing, defensive awareness, shot creation etc. In that regard I think he'll provide the best early dividends. But for all his potential, Wiggins game needs a TON of refinement for him to reach his ceiling. I'll be curious to see if he does because he could absolutely be a stud.

I think Embiid would benefit from being drafted by a team that could play him off the bench at first. If somehow the Kings landed him I'd continue to start Cuz and JT/Evans and let Joel work his way into the rotation both to give him less pressure and more room to grow as well as limiting his minutes to avoid injury. But whether he starts or comes off the bench I think Embiid will be a very mixed bag early on. I think he'll rebound relatively well and be a decent weak side/help defender. But I also think he'll get abused in the post and have plenty of gaffes on the offensive end with just enough of those "wow" plays that no one will lose faith in what he can and should become.

Parker is touted as the most NBA ready but I think he'll struggle to defend NBA SFs and I think he'll also have a hard time being guarded by bigger and/or more athletic players than he's used to. But I'm guessing he'll figure things out pretty quickly and start making a push to be ROY by December depending on the team he goes to. And honestly I think Philadelphia is a great landing sport for him because he'd get fed shots and opportunities from the get go. Unlike Embiid I think Parker would benefit most from being thrown into the fire and being given big minutes from the jump.

I think Exum will likely have the longest learning curve. Bigger jump in competition and more importantly I think he'll (at least initially if not permanently) be moved to the SG spot and have the ball taken out of his hands which would be a huge adjustment for him. I suppose if Orlando drafted him he'd get the keys to the offense to start with the rationale that Oladipo can help take some pressure off him in terms of ball handling and playmaking. We'll see.

Randle is an tough one to predict. If he's able to play bully ball at the NBA level (and I'm really curious to see how he measures out at the combine) then I think he'll actually be the most immediate producer from this draft. If he has to adjust his style then I have no idea how things will go in the NBA for him. But I think that will get answered after a couple summer league games.

 

[spaniard]

See, I cannot agree with that. I think Wiggins is probably going to be the most NBA ready of the top picks. I would have no problems with drafting him, even with Embiid available, but I still do prefer Embiid. I think he would play well next to cousins as a weak side, or help defender, or just switch the two and have cousins as weak side or help if Embiids D is that dominant.

I'd never pick wiggins as a top-3. He could be a good player, he is very athletic, even he is skilled. But he is not gifted. I mean, bill self said that embiid has been his most gifted player this season. And I can say that i've seen some more gifted big men that embiid. He has talent, but he isn't boogie. Wiggins is less gifted than him according to his coach. He plays as SF and there are a lot of very gifted SF. Also I doubt if a better player than wiggins like parker could be franchise-changer. Randle has some risk but he hasn't less talent that any of them, and now is better and more dominant.

Some people like danny ainge, jerry west, and syracuse's coach say that this will be a bad draft.

 

[Dime Dropper]

It won't be a bad draft, but I'm not sure that it'll have any full fledged superstars. I think Parker might get there, Wiggins is possible. Embiid, Exum, Randle, Smart and Saric could be All-Star level players. Then you have some lesser known quantities in Gordon, Vonleh and Nurkic. There's always going to be at least one all-star level player that no one really saw coming.

 

[Mass]

The best prime is a lie. It's only a possibility, not a fact. But, who is the best now, is a fact. And randle is better than embiid wiggins and parker now. He has been the most dominant player in ncaa. Every team had to double-teamed him, even triple-teamed. If he is the fit, i don't know. Althougt, i'm sure that he isn't the worsl, specially if he has a better range than people thinks he has (he had it a year ago). He could be a 14points 8rebounds man as a roockie.

When people is talking about upside, potential, ceiling, usually forget that the most important are the feeling for the game, not the atleticism, or the tehcnic/skills. And randle have a great feeling for the game. I'm sure that is there is an underrated top prospect in this draft, is randle.

We should agree we disagree... I don't see Randle to be as good as you believe he is, but it's just my opinion. For me he will have big problems adapting to the NBA game. He had good numbers this season, but he doesn't have a reliable outside shot, and in the NBA it will be much more difficult to attack the basket and score inside. He will go against much better athletes and this will bother him. He will need to adapt.
In my opinion Cuz needs to be paired with a big who can play defense, block shots and stay out of the way on offense. If he could also hit the midrange shot and spread the floor, it would be a huge plus. Randle is not this kind of player, that's why I don't like him with Cuz.

You are right, potential is just a possibility, but there's no sure thing in any draft. Embiid is not a sure thing, Wiggins is not, Randle is not. But you have to go with the player you think will be the best. I like to think long term, short term thinking is not a great strategy for success in my opinion.

 

[spaniard]

We should agree we disagree... I don't see Randle to be as good as you believe he is, but it's just my opinion. For me he will have big problems adapting to the NBA game. He had good numbers this season, but he doesn't have a reliable outside shot, and in the NBA it will be much more difficult to attack the basket and score inside. He will go against much better athletes and this will bother him. He will need to adapt.
In my opinion Cuz needs to be paired with a big who can play defense, block shots and stay out of the way on offense. If he could also hit the midrange shot and spread the floor, it would be a huge plus. Randle is not this kind of player, that's why I don't like him with Cuz.

You are right, potential is just a possibility, but there's no sure thing in any draft. Embiid is not a sure thing, Wiggins is not, Randle is not. But you have to go with the player you think will be the best. I like to think long term, short term thinking is not a great strategy for success in my opinion.

It's depends on the situation. We are not talking about a franchise-changer talent (maybe with the exception of embiid). When you have a franchise-changer (boogie) you don't need to think in long terms. You have to compete. becouse if you don't it, probably you'll never compete.

In 2010 scouts thought than cousins had a worse shooting ability than the ability he showed in workouts later. In fact, he was the best shooter in kings workout. And i know that randle had a good range (even with turns around back steps fade away) a year ago. And this year he has been better and most dominant than the other. Specially in MM

 

[Dime Dropper]

I don't like Randle as a fit, but really like him as a player. He's being underrated. People love to exaggerate an inch here or an inch there. It can be important, but not as important as the physical tools and skill set. Randle is a physical beast with the base skill set to be a great offensive big man. Yeah you can say he'll have to adapt to bigger, more athletic defenses. But that's true for literally every single prospect. Doesn't make sense to single him out given that he's stronger and more athletic than the majority of other big men prospects. He's well equipped to adapt. Be interesting to see how he measures out though. I'd much prefer a shot-blocking defender next to Cuz, but I wouldn't complain with Randle because I think he's going to be a force. We do need a quality starting PF - shame we couldn't turn JT/Landry into a shot-blocking big and have a rotation of Cuz/Randle/Shot-blocker/Evans.

 

[randymoss1881]

Ya lets not sleep in Randle he has an elite first step which will translate to the nba. Also scouts say he could shoot in high school so had could have been playing low post to Coach Cals request. He has the will to win and is a true competitor that can't be ignored.

 

[Bricklayer]

Ya lets not sleep in Randle he has an elite first step which will translate to the nba. Also scouts say he could shoot in high school so had could have been playing low post to Coach Cals request. He has the will to win and is a true competitor that can't be ignored.

Randle is a great offensive talent. He's got elite NBA skills as a faceup post player. Milsap remains my comparison. Unfortunately that means he's a terrible fit next to Boogie, who is the one anchor we KNOW we are building around going forward. If we were Indiana and looking for a David West understudy/replacement to put next to Hibbert, Randle would be my man, with Vonleh as the fallback. But with Boogie, there is no room for another offensive big man, let alone one who isn't a defender. Wasting money on Landry was bad enough.

 

[Entity]

The best fit to boogie in Sacramento will not be drafted if so he will be in sacramento by himself without boogie

 

[kingsboi]

I'd go with Joel Embiid and not look back, you can't pass up on a twin tower tandem such as Joel and DeMarcus. The "what if's" always falls in the back of my mind with the Drummond mistake. sigh.

 

[macadocious]

The best fit to boogie in Sacramento will not be drafted if so he will be in sacramento by himself without boogie

?

 

[Dime Dropper]

The best fit to boogie in Sacramento will not be drafted if so he will be in sacramento by himself without boogie

Purple monkey dishwasher

 

[Bricklayer]

The best fit to boogie in Sacramento will not be drafted if so he will be in sacramento by himself without boogie

Translation: he's not there this year, and if we keep on making lottery appearances searching for him in future years Boogies is gonna bolt??

 

[Gary]

Translation: he's not there this year, and if we keep on making lottery appearances searching for him in future years Boogies is gonna bolt??

I thought Embiid was pretty much the closest thing to fitting Cousins? At least that's how I see it when watching Embiid play this year.

 

[King Baller]

I'm the lone Exum selection I just give him the ball and tell him to pass to Cousins and Gay. Bring in IT and Landry as the 6th and 7th men. The Defensive Big we all want has to come by trade.

That said any of the 4 players being discussed as Top 3 picks would be fine with me.

KB

 

[sterö]

We will not pick in the top 3. I have given up on the lottery after all these lottery disappointments (curse?) in the last couple of years. We will pick at 7 or 8...

 

[Bricklayer]

I'm the lone Exum selection I just give him the ball and tell him to pass to Cousins and Gay. Bring in IT and Landry as the 6th and 7th men. The Defensive Big we all want has to come by trade.

That said any of the 4 players being discussed as Top 3 picks would be fine with me.

KB

I like the looks of Exum a lot. But you never know competition wise.

And you don't turn down a Twin Towers team. If Embid is the real thing, you are guaranteed formidable for a dozen years.