YOUR Draft Board for the Kings
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LPKingsFan
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We have been saying that every year it seems. Than Petrie goes out and;
"With the ## pick in the NBA draft the Sacramento Kings select XXX XXXXXX a 6'7 guard/forward from xxxxxxxxxx"
Look for it to happen again
Haha. So true
Sptsjunkie
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My new #1
Ok, I'm not backing completely off Diaz; however, he's going to have to share the top spot with Kyle Lowry. The more I hear about him, I love his description. Yes, he needs to work on his jumper, but no one will be perfect at #19 and I love the fact that his work ethic and competitve nature are among his strong suits. This bodes well for the future. That and his strong defensive play. Anyway, here is the NBADraft.net description:
NBA Comparison: Tim Hardaway
Strengths: Can get anywhere on the floor whenever he wants ... His heart and passion for the game put him on an elite level rarely seen in today's spoiled basketball players ... Rebounding ability is an unusual attribute for a 6-0 guard ... His ability to lock in and defend makes in special as well ... Extremely quick hands and feet, he is incredibly disruptive on the defensive end ...He plays so hard it is difficult to know where he is on the court at all times, just ask Raymond Felton who got all he wanted in the Sweet 16 last year ... His reputation as a winner is unparalleled and his will to win is as strong as they come ... Natural floor general with the ability to get players shots with his quick decision making ... Very physical, he's able to use his great body strength to overpower guards on both ends of the floor ...
Weaknesses: [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]His jumper off the dribble has been one of the few knocks to his game ... Must develop more cosnisistency on his outside shot ... At 6' foot he is a bit undersized, but plays much bigger ... Having come off a slight ACL tear last year his knee recovered faster than I have ever seen or heard a player come back from an injury like that and play productively that same year. So the strength of that knee will be something to watch throughout his career ... His temper and his ability to keep his emotions in check could prevent him from being a heady floor leader if he allows his emotions to get the best of him. [/FONT]
Ok, I'm not backing completely off Diaz; however, he's going to have to share the top spot with Kyle Lowry. The more I hear about him, I love his description. Yes, he needs to work on his jumper, but no one will be perfect at #19 and I love the fact that his work ethic and competitve nature are among his strong suits. This bodes well for the future. That and his strong defensive play. Anyway, here is the NBADraft.net description:
NBA Comparison: Tim Hardaway
Strengths: Can get anywhere on the floor whenever he wants ... His heart and passion for the game put him on an elite level rarely seen in today's spoiled basketball players ... Rebounding ability is an unusual attribute for a 6-0 guard ... His ability to lock in and defend makes in special as well ... Extremely quick hands and feet, he is incredibly disruptive on the defensive end ...He plays so hard it is difficult to know where he is on the court at all times, just ask Raymond Felton who got all he wanted in the Sweet 16 last year ... His reputation as a winner is unparalleled and his will to win is as strong as they come ... Natural floor general with the ability to get players shots with his quick decision making ... Very physical, he's able to use his great body strength to overpower guards on both ends of the floor ...
Weaknesses: [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]His jumper off the dribble has been one of the few knocks to his game ... Must develop more cosnisistency on his outside shot ... At 6' foot he is a bit undersized, but plays much bigger ... Having come off a slight ACL tear last year his knee recovered faster than I have ever seen or heard a player come back from an injury like that and play productively that same year. So the strength of that knee will be something to watch throughout his career ... His temper and his ability to keep his emotions in check could prevent him from being a heady floor leader if he allows his emotions to get the best of him. [/FONT]
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Diaz's problem is he's not a PG + has no idea how to run offense for anybody but himself. That's always tough. Maybe with 3-4 of seasoning on some team's roster he gets good enough to be passable as a PG, but straight out of college there's now way he can run an NBA team.
walker60
Bench
Diaz to me is like a point guard version of Sene. Both could turn about to be very good players, but would take a lot of patience to wait for them to develop. Diaz is 6-2, so he's gonna need to learn how to play the point. It will take him a while before he learns how. I'd rather see us get someone who is a little more ready.
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
After comtemplating the situation. I am all for Diaz. I want Diaz. If a guy like Redick slips then I don't know.
As long as Redick would be a 6th man/main bench guy/3rd or 4th option, he'll be fine. Length/athleticism/quickness will give him problems for himself and against the opposition though.
Honestly though, I don't think he falls to us with Houston/Chicago (#16)/Orlando/NO-OKC/Indiana/Jazz (who are quite high on him) all in front of us and likely destinations.
Honestly though, I don't think he falls to us with Houston/Chicago (#16)/Orlando/NO-OKC/Indiana/Jazz (who are quite high on him) all in front of us and likely destinations.
Sptsjunkie
Starter
I understand your comparison, but I don't think it is very fair to Diaz. Sene is very raw, he has played in some foriegn leagues (and not the really strong ones) and never really put up numbers. Sene really needs to learn the full NBA game still. He is the very definition of a project, much like Diop was. Diaz is still raw and needs to learn how to set up teammates better even to play as a combo guard, but he has played 3 years of college basketball and produced. Last season he averaged 17ppg, 3rpg, and 3apg as the focal point of a legitimate D1 offense.
I think a better comparison for Diaz would be a more much rawer version of Devin Harris. The both have amazing basketball skills and could score for themselves, but needed to lear PG skills to excel at the next level. Even that comparison feels off to me, but I still feel that Diaz is more polished and can play more of a role for a team over the next couple of seasons than Sene.
Sptsjunkie
Starter
Hell YES on Lowry. Love Diaz too.
On Lowry's jumper, it was said to be improved in work-outs and the orlando camp. So that's a good sign, and can of course work on it in summers, camps, and pre-seasons of the future. Like Rondo can.
I agree with you, but would much rather have Lowry than Rondo. Rondo is already a more complete package as a PG and I love the fact that every review about him calls him a competitor, hard worker, and somehow says or implies he has a lot of heart. His combination of physical skills, basketball IQ, and "love of the game" stike me as a combination that give him a good chance to overcome his weaknesses, primarily shooting.
I may be wrong on this point. But I feel like I have heard people question Rondo's passion and intesnity at times. While some players can ovecome that, it stikes me as an attribute that kills a lot of careers. People who just play the game to make money (not the same as loving the game and wanting to make as much money as possible) seem to underperform, only do well in contract years, and let other distractions such as drugs and alcohol derail their careers.
Right now, I've got to put Lowry at 1A and Diaz at 1B.
What's intersting, both last year finalists Detroit and San Antonio need athletic, power swingman badly so I really expect that he will be picked at #59 or #60 if not earlier.
I don't know why he's not getting any love: he's extremely athletic (he measured better than Graham last year), can shoot (and has excellent shot selection), rebound, pass very well for swingman and of course he defended anybody from slow PGs to light centers in college. Sure he shouldn't be allowed to handle the ball but there are many such players in NBA.
(bolded) You mean Lowry?
Haven't really picked up/seen that about Rondo... I don't think it's something major/long-term anyways. Seems fine to me.
Highly doubt Rondo's a druggie or alcoholic, or of that type. Would be shocking if so.
I would be happy with any of the PGs (sergio, rajon rondo, lowry) or big men (hilton armstrong or sear sene) to be honest. I know how many feel about drafting "best available", but I think the Kings would do best to give the young guys (Martin, Cisco, even Monya) some swingmen PT to see how they develop, not to mention Artest and possibly Bonzi already getting their minutes. Some might argue that we can always draft the best player and trade our duplicate assets, but I think that it's harder to trade players for their fair value if they're not getting the PT to showcase what they can do.
walker60
Bench
^^ I agree. Any of those guys I would be happy with. It all just depends on who's there when we pick. Maybe someone will fall, who knows. Bottomline is I trust Geoff to make the right call. If he picks a guy I don't really like, I'll reserve my judgment for a couple seasons.
Interesting info from latest NDN article:
"Look for this pick to be made for another team as no team has been actively shopping their first round pick more than Sacramento. The Kings could look for future picks or a player in return. Sergio has tremendous heart and upside but will need time to mature into a NBA floor general. If the Kings do hold onto their pick, look for them to add a backup to Bibby, with a dearth of quality PGs (Sergio, Farmar, Lowry, Rondo, Douby) possibly available."
"Look for this pick to be made for another team as no team has been actively shopping their first round pick more than Sacramento. The Kings could look for future picks or a player in return. Sergio has tremendous heart and upside but will need time to mature into a NBA floor general. If the Kings do hold onto their pick, look for them to add a backup to Bibby, with a dearth of quality PGs (Sergio, Farmar, Lowry, Rondo, Douby) possibly available."
ParniValjak
All-Star
I am pretty happy to hear that.
I am by no means "in the loop" when it comes to NBA drafts as we don't have much coverage on college basketball down under but from all the stuff that I have read, it sounds like this is pretty weakish draft. Sure there might be a steal picked up late in the draft but considering where we are at, I would be more inclined to get someone that can play straight away rather than someone that will sit on the bench and wave the towel.
I would like to see us use the draft pick in a trade package that gets us imidiate help. Our time is now, not 5 years down't the track.
However, if we don't trade the pick, I half expect Petrie to draft a project player and leave them in Europe for a couple of years to further develop. I am thinking someone like Sergio Rodriguez or Sear Sene.
I just don't think we can pick a player with our pick that will make imidiate impact.
Kev.in
Starter
I don't like to hear that the Kings are (allegedy) shopping their pick. A team that's supposed to be on the rise can't be giving away draft picks when they have a critical free agent and an unresolved mess at one of their starting positions. There is at least one future star to be had in the 2nd part of the first round and the focus should be on locating that type of player.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
All depends on the deal. Shopping it could be a good + fun thing depening on what we are getting out of the deal. With another player to move up = cool. Getting useful vet who plugs hole for us would be fine. Part of big time deal = fun. Even pushing it ahead in return for a pick next year from a team that will probably be in the lottery would be a decent gamble. #19 certainly doesn't scream out "missed opportunity" if there is something more interesting to be had.
nbrans
All-Star
Does this person know what dearth means? Because I'd hate to draft a PG when there's a dearth of good ones.
Main Entry: dearth
Pronunciation: 'd&rth
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English derthe, from (assumed) Old English dierth, from dEore dear
1 : scarcity that makes dear; specifically : [SIZE=-1]FAMINE[/SIZE]
2 : an inadequate supply : [SIZE=-1]LACK[/SIZE]
From what Petrie said in the latest draft article, he's looking for someone who can contribute sooner rather than later. Sene/Ser-Rod don't fit that, both are intriguing in general though. Specifically Sene for the Kings.
I wouldn't say this is a weak draft, but it's a deep draft with a lot of solid/good players. Just doesn't have that LBJ/Wade/Jordan/Duncan prospect, so people say it's a bad draft.
I'd like to see us keep the pick unless it's needed in a deal to get a nice big or back-up PG, or move up.
I wouldn't say this is a weak draft, but it's a deep draft with a lot of solid/good players. Just doesn't have that LBJ/Wade/Jordan/Duncan prospect, so people say it's a bad draft.
I'd like to see us keep the pick unless it's needed in a deal to get a nice big or back-up PG, or move up.
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hammystyle
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The article went on to mention we might be dealing 19 to the Blazers for 30/31. That would bring a lot of different scenarios into play. There's always one or two guys that fall out completely and the Kings could pick them up, it would also allow them to pick up Freeland, stash him, and then get somebody who could help this year.
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