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mr_jasonjonesJason Jones

Chuck Hayes will also be named team captain #NBAKings

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"Hayes, however, wanted to be a King. The support from the moment he was told about the initial heart results meant a lot, he said.Petrie drove Hayes to the hospital for one test, and other front office staff was there for other tests. Assistant general manager Shareef Abdur-Rahim picked up Hayes from the airport Friday night."It really gave significance and justified why I wanted to be here, why I wanted to be a King," Hayes said.

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I don't care what people say about the competency of our front office, at least they are a class act.
 
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Adn people really really have to quit using the Barkley comparion. I know younger peeps didn't get the a chance to see the guy in his prime, but you have to understand that aside from the freakish strength and ridiculous arms, Barkley was one of the most explosive big man leapers in the history of the NBA. He was just ferocious. Barkley didn't play 6'5". I break this vid out everytime somebody wants to compare undersized player X to Barkley:


That ain't our Chuck.
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Why would I not use Barkley as an example? Because you talked guy a 6'6(realty 6'4) vs. A 6'11 guy and how the 6'11 guy would clearly have the advantage, and i wanted to point out that wasn't always the case. Btw, I watched Barkley play live multiple times and I'm not a "younger peep"
 
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Nice ! thanks.


"Hayes, however, wanted to be a King. The support from the moment he was told about the initial heart results meant a lot, he said.Petrie drove Hayes to the hospital for one test, and other front office staff was there for other tests. Assistant general manager Shareef Abdur-Rahim picked up Hayes from the airport Friday night."It really gave significance and justified why I wanted to be here, why I wanted to be a King," Hayes said.

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I don't care what people say about the competency of our front office, at least they are a class act.

SAR is now Assistant General Manager? Cool.
 
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Why would I not use Barkley as an example? Because you talked guy a 6'6(realty 6'4) vs. A 6'11 guy and how the 6'11 guy would clearly have the advantage, and i wanted to point out that wasn't always the case. Btw, I watched Barkley play live multiple times and I'm not a "younger peep"

You have multiple fail going on now.

1) I did NOT talk about how a 6'11" guy has the advantage. You apparently have continued to misread a relatively short post. Oh, a 6'11" guy absolutely has almost every advantage -- which is why you see a bunch of 6'11" dudes dominating the game while the 6'6" guys play in the D-league. But, as I clearly said, and I think most other people picked upn on, a short stout guy has the advantage in leverage. You get a strong 6'6" guy who understands leverage, and it should be darn near impossible for any tall guy to move him off his spot unless the tlall guy has 40lbs on him. There is a reason noseguards in football (which I was) are not 6'6" towering behemoths. Closer to the ground = better leverage. And hence Hayes should be able to, if nothing else, get under guys, not be backed down, and move his feet (shorter guys also being quicker than taller ones).

2) the Barkley compariosn is flat out dumb, again, because Charles Barkley did not play 6'5". Charles Barkley played the game almost as 6'10" as the towers out there. He was an above the rim player, he could sky for huge rebounds in traffic. In short, his height did not hold him back because with his leaping ability and freakish build he could play the game "tall", grab rebounds up high with the 6'11" guys, dunk on their face, and in general avoid the geometry problems that short guys have with the sport. Chuck Hayes on the other hand is just a true 6'6" There's nothing Barkleyish about him except the first name. Hayes has to play the game on the ground, as a guy shorter than all his opponents. As such he wil always be very limited in what he can do against guys who have 5 inches and length on him. Barkley wasn't limited in that way because he could get so far off the ground he could look those taller players square in the eye. There's just no comparison. Saying Hayes can do it because Barkely can do it is ridiculous because Hayes can't do any of the things Barkley could do physically.
 
You have multiple fail going on now.

1) I did NOT talk about how a 6'11" guy has the advantage. You apparently have continued to misread a relatively short post. Oh, a 6'11" guy absolutely has almost every advantage -- which is why you see a bunch of 6'11" dudes dominating the game while the 6'6" guys play in the D-league. But, as I clearly said, and I think most other people picked upn on, a short stout guy has the advantage in leverage. You get a strong 6'6" guy who understands leverage, and it should be darn near impossible for any tall guy to move him off his spot unless the tlall guy has 40lbs on him. There is a reason noseguards in football (which I was) are not 6'6" towering behemoths. Closer to the ground = better leverage. And hence Hayes should be able to, if nothing else, get under guys, not be backed down, and move his feet (shorter guys also being quicker than taller ones).

2) the Barkley compariosn is flat out dumb, again, because Charles Barkley did not play 6'5". Charles Barkley played the game almost as 6'10" as the towers out there. He was an above the rim player, he could sky for huge rebounds in traffic. In short, his height did not hold him back because with his leaping ability and freakish build he could play the game "tall", grab rebounds up high with the 6'11" guys, dunk on their face, and in general avoid the geometry problems that short guys have with the sport. Chuck Hayes on the other hand is just a true 6'6" There's nothing Barkleyish about him except the first name. Hayes has to play the game on the ground, as a guy shorter than all his opponents. As such he wil always be very limited in what he can do against guys who have 5 inches and length on him. Barkley wasn't limited in that way because he could get so far off the ground he could look those taller players square in the eye. There's just no comparison. Saying Hayes can do it because Barkely can do it is ridiculous because Hayes can't do any of the things Barkley could do physically.

Lol. I love the arrogance of your posts, but thank you for pointing out my multiple fails. What are we debating here (other than me posting dumb and ridiculous stuff)? The way I read it was that you felt you knew who would have certain advantages between a 6'11 guy and a 6'6 guy. I never disagreed with you, but rather pointed out a couple exceptions to the rule. Who cares that Barkley played bigger than he was, he was still 6'4, which was the point of what I was saying. Yes, he was a freak of nature, both athletically and in terms of strength. He was quick enough to guard guys on the perimeter and strong enough to defend in the post (when he actually wanted to play D). For you to insinuate the guy just played above the rim is ignorant. The man was a beast on the block as well, and could post up anyone. His game was much more than just cramming on people and skying for rebounds. I mentioned Hayes as well, but made a point to say to a lesser extent. Cleary he is not on the same level athletically/skill wise as Barkely, but both have similar frames and a low center of gravity. So where is the disconnect here?
 
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