Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
There really is no evidence of that at all. If a 4 yr old knee surgery is that big of an eternal problem in people's eyes then what about Spencer?
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Would you take trade Thompson to ditch Udrih and Thomas and get Amare?
- Thread starter KevinSalvadori
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There really is no evidence of that at all. If a 4 yr old knee surgery is that big of an eternal problem in people's eyes then what about Spencer?
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AriesMar27
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if we draft rubio and dont use any of the capspace to get amare we could always trade someone to the hornets for chandler... or trade for a big stiff like kwame brown. we would have no bench or back up bigs but oh well... on paper we would have a team that could compete...
we would need to find a way to pick up some bench players either way... unless we keep our players.
we would need to find a way to pick up some bench players either way... unless we keep our players.
Aenadin
Starter
the troublesome knees are the key words.. we cant afford them,
a 20 point 8 rebound 1 block 2 apg player for JTs possible 2nd yr stats of 15ppg 8rpg 1bpg 2apg and udrihs 12ppg 3rpg 4apg.. and KTs expring its not worth it
amare's not worth trading a young big
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SacKings7
Starter
But they haven't really been a problem the last few years. The microfracture surgery scares everyone though, given its history
Aenadin
Starter
last few years yes.. but there is a possibility that it can give out during his Tenure with the kings... if we do extend his contract
thats what were trying to avoid.. as much as possible stock up on young talent
SacKings7
Starter
Yeah that's why I said about the surgery. I think we should probably do it if we don't think we're gonna be bad enough to get Wall next year. It's not too often that a player of Amare's caliber is available through trade
ParniValjak
All-Star
To answer the queestion posed in the opening post......in a heartbeat!
Thompson is good and even at his absolute best case scenario, he still doesn't reach the all-star level that Amare is at. You do this all day, every day and twice on sundays. You get a perennial all-star (flaws and all) PF (not a franchise player but there are only maybe 5-6 or those anyway) and you lose a terrible contract in Beno.
With a team of
Hawes
Amare
Nocioni
Martin
Rubio
Garcia etc....
you are good enough to get to the play offs so the draft pick will most likely be out of the lottery.
You get a good product on the floor, get the fans back into the seats, increase the chances of the Kings staying in Sacramanto.
Thompson is good and even at his absolute best case scenario, he still doesn't reach the all-star level that Amare is at. You do this all day, every day and twice on sundays. You get a perennial all-star (flaws and all) PF (not a franchise player but there are only maybe 5-6 or those anyway) and you lose a terrible contract in Beno.
With a team of
Hawes
Amare
Nocioni
Martin
Rubio
Garcia etc....
you are good enough to get to the play offs so the draft pick will most likely be out of the lottery.
You get a good product on the floor, get the fans back into the seats, increase the chances of the Kings staying in Sacramanto.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Until the freak eye injury this season, in the three years since the season lost to the microfracture Amare had played in 82 games, 79 games, and I think this year 53 of 55 games? Does a single knee surgery = troublesome?
If it's micro fracture surgery, yes. Some players seem to have recovered fully after the surgery, but just as many have never been the same. It's not necessarily a deal breaker, but it has to be a concern. Knowing how long it's taken this franchise to recover after Webber's surgery, I'd be especially cautious about committing long-term to that kind of risk.
kingsnation
All-Star
When you are that young, it might not seem to be. But as he ages.. and remember, we want him to be a vital part of our franchise... this type of injury can come back to bite him and us.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
KevinSalvadori
Bench
With all due respect, I disagree with this. You can afford some short-term risk/reward for long-term impact. Ultimately, Amare buys instant respect while JT would be a projected impact player without the ability to gain the instant street credibility needed to draw free agents. You'd be building a team around one great player (Amare), two set pices (Nocioni, Martin), a good player in development (Hawes), and one project (Rubio), vice two projects, a good player, and two set pieces. You can get role players to fit the former scenario, but the other seems very much a ways away...
ParniValjak
All-Star
OK, this is just laughable! JT will NEVER be as good as Amare and you can bookmark that.
Thats like saying Kevin Martin will be or is as good as Kobe. Just not true and never will be.
Andre87
Bench
lol absolutely not! Kevin's and Kobe's games aren't similar by any means
Once Amare will be without Nash or Nash-like great pg all his weaknesses will be exposed big time. He's like what 7 years in the league and still very mediocre post game and defense, average rebounder for his size/athleticism Still uses only his quickness and athleticism almost every time to score. He has improved his midrange jumper though I give him that. But still he isn't that much of fundamentally complete player like other big men in the league who get no credit whatsoever (i.e. Al Jefferson). He will find out it's a lot more difficult to score without a great pg who's constantly finding good shots for him.
Although not so athletic as Amare JT already showed that he will be a very good rebounder in this league for years and certainly better than Amare. He has a lot of time to become a good defender as well. He is quick and can take it to the rim with dribble like him too moreover JT showed a glimpse of a very good post moves this season too. So if he continues to improve his game he will be better.
What?
If we get Griffin, why would you want Amare?
If we trade for Amare, JT is almost certain to have to be in the package to get him.
What the heck do you want 3 quality PF for???? We have more pressing needs....
kupman
Starter
I actually think that this is very reasonable. Griffin is so young that playing back-up to Amare for 3-4 years is not such a bad idea. We really do not know if Griffin will be that effective of a player in his early years - if ever.
Aenadin
Starter
id prefer that we throw griffin or Jason thompson to the lions and let them learn the game than play 2nd fiddle to amare. i dont think amare would enjoy cutting his playing time and its not a good idea to bench and halt a top 5 picks growth by playing him off the bench for the rest of his rookie years only for him leave for another team for a starting job and become a stud.
we dont know how good amare can be alone... hes relying too much on his physical attributes more than skill.
speed up and accelrate his growth.. dont stunt it by playing behind a vet..
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Holy ****. Holy. ****. Not only are you saying that we should waste a year of unbearable sucktitute on a player that will be a backup, but you are assuming we don't really know how good a player he will be. Even if you don't have a grasp on his potential, there is no way you waste a year on a pick you don't believe will contribute right away. A #1 on top of all of that!!!!!!!!! Assuming we get #1... Or am I misunderstanding?
kupman
Starter
This is what I really hate about the current rules of the NBA draft. The NBA is a man's man game. It is not for boys. The vast, vast majority of the most elite players in world are not really ready for the NBA until they are 23 or 24 and now teams are presurred into drafting adolescents. On top of that, teams are now feeling pressured to play these boys before their time.
I stand behind I said. Griffin can play behind Amare of Bosh for a few years. Let him start and get 35-40 minutes a game when his older and after Amare/Bosh's contract runs out. Unless of course, Blake is not all that good and then turn him loose.
I stand behind I said. Griffin can play behind Amare of Bosh for a few years. Let him start and get 35-40 minutes a game when his older and after Amare/Bosh's contract runs out. Unless of course, Blake is not all that good and then turn him loose.
FakeInjury
Bench
Amare has a sweet touch, but his power game is weak. I wouldn't give up thompson for anything less than dirk. I think Amare is a poor 2nd option and he thinks he is a 1st option, which is funny. no thanks on this trade idea.
