Would you take Micheal Beasley for free?

[Rookie]

How well does he shoot the ball?

If he can't do that well than he's no good for us. We already got beastly SF, the only problem is they can't shoot the ball consistently yet.

Definitely he won't be our small PF, we got Laundry and that is as short and the only short PF we should have.

 

[Kingstime]

Translation: They expect me to work hard all the time and behave myself.

Haha pretty much he should of stayed in college to do bad things.

As for his shot I do know his midrange game is deadly, he hasn't gotten the 3 ball down consistently yet. Bottom line he's just young and doesn't enjoy the pressure of being Wade's number 2. I can see him flourishing as the 3rd guy behind Wade and Bosh if he stays. If he by some chance gets traded out west he will right himself I think.

 

[Sparky6string]

Not really. There was a lot of bagage connected to Beasley prior to the draft. Drug use had been reported along with bad attitude. I wasn't high on him. He looked like a player without a true position. Thats OK if your drafting at 20, but not if your drafting at 2.

I think there is a little revisionism here. I am not doubting that you did not personally care for him- I have no idea how you felt about him, but I will disagree with you if you're saying he wasn't highly regarded by scouts and teams. Over and over again the talking heads said he was clearly the best player in the draft and Rose was taken first because of the home town pick. Like I said earlier I didn't see his game translating well but I thought I was most likely wrong simply because of the way analysts were gushing over him.

 

[bajaden]

How well does he shoot the ball?

If he can't do that well than he's no good for us. We already got beastly SF, the only problem is they can't shoot the ball consistently yet.

Definitely he won't be our small PF, we got Laundry and that is as short and the only short PF we should have.

Here's the deal with Beasley. He's an undersized PF, but a very good athlete. In college he was able to get by with his quickness and athleticism. Now being undersized isn't necessarily a death sentence. Witnessed by Landry, and a herd of undersized PF's currently in the NBA. But up to now, I haven't seen any improvement in his post game or even his mid-range game. I think if he were to put in the work instead of lip service, he might be pretty good.

He also has the quickness to play the SF position. But once again, his outside shot has improved very little. I think he shot around 32 or 33 percent last year from behind the arc. The previous year he shot in the 20's. He was, entering the NBA, and still is, a player without an established position. He has had serious attitude problems in the past.
I sympathize with him, but I would rather his problems be someone else's problems.

 

[hrdboild]

Headcase issues aside, there are also serious question marks about what the best way to utilize his talents might be. He's not a great spot up shooter so he's wasted out there at the three point line. He's undersized to play PF in the NBA so you'd want to put him at SF, but then he's not going to be in position to rebound as much and that's one of his better skills. He doesn't have great ball handling skills (probably average) but he can get to the basket and finish if he has some open space. He's kind of in that Gerald Wallace/Josh Smith range of players who's skills play better at PF even if their size would play better at SF. But unlike those two guys he's lazy on defense which is the death knell. Miami's been trying to get him to play defense for two years without much progress. Which all adds up to a player who's already overpaid and borderline untradeable in just his third year in the league.

In the right situation he could probably be a pretty good player but I don't think we have that situation in Sacramento. Tyreke is going to have the ball in his hands the bulk of the possessions and Cousins is going to get a lot of touches too. If you're not going to give Beasley the ball, his skills at this point have not made him a good contributer as a complimentary player.

 

[bajaden]

I think there is a little revisionism here. I am not doubting that you did not personally care for him- I have no idea how you felt about him, but I will disagree with you if you're saying he wasn't highly regarded by scouts and teams. Over and over again the talking heads said he was clearly the best player in the draft and Rose was taken first because of the home town pick. Like I said earlier I didn't see his game translating well but I thought I was most likely wrong simply because of the way analysts were gushing over him.

I'm not saying that there wern't folks out there that liked him. I'm saying that there were indications, mostly from past problems, that were there. But that aside, my problems with him were all court related. I watched him play a lot. And I thought he was getting by with pure athleticism. I'm a skills guy and thats what I look for. Same reason I'm not that high on Aminu. Doesn't mean I'm right. Just means that I get a little suspicous of how good a player is going to be at the next level. When I saw the game between Kansas St. and Rider, and Thompson pretty much had his way with Beasley, I thought to myself at the time, He's going to have a hard time in the NBA if he doesn't improve his skill level. He had little or no post game. He never got a rebound by blocking out or positioning. He got his rebounds by slashing in at the last second and cherry picking. Thats not going to work in the NBA with any consistancy.

To be honest with you, I didn't think he would be as bad as he's been. I just didn't think he would ever live up to his press clippings. Part of his problem is where he was drafted. If he had been drafted 12th or 14th he wouldn't look so bad. I went back and looked where I had everyone ranked on my list. I didn't date it so I don't know if it was right before the draft or not. But I do know that I had Lopez ranked as the second best player in the draft.

1. Rose
2. B. Lopez
3. Love
4. Gordon
5. Mayo
6. Beasley
7. Randolph
8. Thompson
9. Speights
10. Westbrook
11. Bayless
12. Augustine
13. R. Lopez

Thats as far as I'll go. I admit to being wrong about Westbrook. He's much better than I thought he would be. Its an imperfect science..

 

[Sparky6string]

Few of us got Westbrook correct. Good ranking overall. How does that compare to the paid experts' reports of that year?

If you're nailing them like this every year you should provide links to threads in your sig that compare them to the published rankings- that would be a hoot and it might land you a paying gig if you're not careful. =)

 

[OPrime]

Looks like he's going to the T-Wolves.

The Miami Heat have agreed to a trade with the Minnesota Timberwolves that will send Miami Heat’s forward Michael Beasley to the organization.


The Heat shed more cap space and obtain the Wolves 2011 second-round draft pick.

http://nbaprimetime.com/miami-heat-send-michael-beasley-to-the-minnesota-timberwolves/2556/

 

[Mike0476]

According to Mark Stein of ESPN, Minnesota already jumped on it and sent a 2011 2nd round pick for Beasley. Also he mentioned there will be a swap of future first round picks.

http://twitter.com/stein_line_HQ

 

[Tetsujin]

According to Mark Stein of ESPN, Minnesota already jumped on it and sent a 2011 2nd round pick for Beasley. Also he mentioned there will be a swap of future first round picks.

http://twitter.com/stein_line_HQ

Kahn sure likes to stockpile. What the hell is he thinking? He now has three PFs, somewhere around 4 SFs, and 3 PGs.

 

[cuad]

Kahn is amazing. First he gets three point guards, then three small forwards. And now, he's going to take Michael Beasley to give Miami cap space. He's the GOAT GM.

 

[Lafayette]

Kahn is just getting Beasley because he plans to trade away Jefferson eventually and if he was smart he'd get rid of Rubio for a SG and or draft choice.

 

[Kingstime]

I really think Beas is gonna flourish in Minny he might even get the starting nod at small forward, I laughed when I read about this trade I'm really not surprised Kahn did this move.

 

[SacKings7]

IMO Beasley is a SF, not a PF. Which makes it even funnier for the Wolves, since on draft night they acquired what, 4?

 

[Bricklayer]

IMO Beasley is a SF, not a PF. Which makes it even funnier for the Wolves, since on draft night they acquired what, 4?

Kahn likes to work one poisiton at a time. Last year it was PGs, this time SFs.

But really Kahn has done a much better job this summer -- the team's biggest weakness was outside shooting and overall talent at the 2/3, and he has really patched that. And these sorts of free talent acquisitions for a young team just looking to find some parts/direction makes plenty of sense.

 

[hammystyle]

IMO Beasley is a SF, not a PF. Which makes it even funnier for the Wolves, since on draft night they acquired what, 4?

He's a 4. He's much better as a scorer and rebounder there, and is pretty much equally crappy on defense whoever he guards.

 

[Widowmaker2k]

I actually think Kahn did a good job here. Still think he's a pretty bad GM overall, but this signing makes sense. Two years ago the dude was the second overall pick, and you just got him basically for free. Can't really fault him here.

 

[bajaden]

I actually think Kahn did a good job here. Still think he's a pretty bad GM overall, but this signing makes sense. Two years ago the dude was the second overall pick, and you just got him basically for free. Can't really fault him here.

Basicly Beasley could just be a one year rental if he doesn't work out. The following year his contract is a team option, so if he doesn't pan out they can just refuse to pick up the option. However, he will be paid 5 mil this next season. So he's hardly free in that sense. This is a great opportunity for him. I hope he doesn't blow it.

 

[bajaden]

Few of us got Westbrook correct. Good ranking overall. How does that compare to the paid experts' reports of that year?

If you're nailing them like this every year you should provide links to threads in your sig that compare them to the published rankings- that would be a hoot and it might land you a paying gig if you're not careful. =)

Ha ha! First off, I don't want a paying gig. I'm happy as a clam looking out at the bay with my coffee every morning. Secondly, my list is in the order of how I rank the players with the Kings needs in mind at the time. If I were making a list on how I thought the draft would go on a national level, it would most likely be quite different. The hard part of making a list, is trusting yourself. Sometimes you just don't like a player. But all the pundits rave about the guy. He's high on almost all the draft boards. So you start to doubt yourself. Maybe you missed something that others didn't. Thats why I refuse to read draft boards while the college season is going on. As much as you try to be objective, its hard when you start being influenced by others opinions. Its fun though. Especially if you have no life, which is what my wife tells me..