Would you? Anthony Davis as a King.

[kingsnation]

6 pts, 16 reb, 5 ast, 6 blk, 3 stl.

That's his line from the title game tonight. We all knew he was a beast before tonight though. But the kid is amazing. My question for you is this: Assuming the Kings don't win the lottery, would you attempt to find a way to trade up for this kid?

I'd assume that it would take this to make it happen: Reke and our #1 for Davis.

Of course, DMC is untouchable. Is Reke untouchable? I love Reke and I think he is going to be a huge part of our future playoff teams. However, is Davis needed more than Reke?

Are there any other deals that could make it work besides losing DMC or Reke? Something like this years #1, next years #1 and MT/Jimmer/JT for Davis? Or is that too much? Too little?

What are your thoughts?

 

[ElRey]

I would give up anyone except Demarcus for him.

 

[kingsnation]

I would give up anyone except Demarcus for him.

Honestly, I think that is where alot of people's thinking is right now. I feel the same way. At the same time though, I would hate to lose Reke.

 

[PurpleHaze]

I still can't believe the kid was only 6'2" 24-30 months ago. What a spurt of growth since to present 6'10," and he hasn't stopped - maybe to top out at 7'0."

 

[twslam07]

I think I would be willing to trade our 1st, Thornton, Fredette, and Whiteside for Davis at the most. I would be thrilled to keep Whiteside as I can see Cousins, Davis, Thompson, and Whiteside being a dominant big man rotation for years to come. And with Evans, Thomas, Williams, Salmons, and Garcia still on the team, there will be plenty of players to pickup the minutes for the loss of Thornton and Fredette.

 

[upinsmoke]

No team is going to trade this years 1st overall for anyone on our roster except Cuz and I would not trade Cuz for that pick anyways.

 

[Tetsujin]

No team is going to trade this years 1st overall for anyone on our roster except Cuz and I would not trade Cuz for that pick anyways.

I dunno, some GMs are pretty stupid.

 

[OptimusRhyme]

hmm... it would be tough to give up both Reke & our 1st for Davis, but I would probably do it. The potential of Cuz/Davis upfront is too strong... They compliment each other perfectly.

I would honestly even throw IT or Jimmer into that package.. as crazy as that sounds...

All hail the uni-brow!

 

[Gary]

I dunno, some GMs are pretty stupid.

I don't think they would be that dumb..

But I would trade Evans and out 1st round pick with a future conditional 1st rounder (top 10 protected) for Davis.. He's THAT good.

 

[Bricklayer]

Beware the college hype. Always. I am certianly not saying his career will got he same way, but as far as size, skillset, body type, and acheivements as a frehsman he bears a cosiderable resembalce to Pervis Ellison. Does that mean he will be Pervis Ellison? Of ocurse not. But it does just mean if we were all sitting here having this conversation in 1986 we might be making the same sorts of proposals to get "Never Nervous" Pervis, the freshman phenom/Final Four MVP.

So that said, set Reke and Cousins aside, and I would consider most anything else. We have enough talented youth that the pick and some of it could actually get it done, but only if the GM on the other side actually had doubts himself about Davis. And we have enough duplicative talents that a pick + some of it is not likely to open truly gaping holes elsewhere. But you can't give up your two elite talents to get a skinny college kid like this. If he busts, or even if he just turns out to be a solid pro rather than a special one, you have damaged your future.

 

[JB_kings]

Beware the college hype. Always. I am certianly not saying his career will got he same way, but as far as size, skillset, body type, and acheivements as a frehsman he bears a cosiderable resembalce to Pervis Ellison. Does that mean he will be Pervis Ellison? Of ocurse not. But it does just mean if we were all sitting here having this conversation in 1989 we might be makign the same sorts of proposals to get "Never Nervous" Pervis, the freshman phenom/Final Four MVP.

So that said, set Reke and Cousins aside, and I would consider most anything else. We have enough talented youth that the pick and some of it could actually get it done, but only if the GM on the other side actually had doubts himself about Davis. And we have enough duplicative talents that a pick + some of it is not likely to open truly gaping holes elsewhere. But you can't give up your two elite talents to get a skinny college kid like this. If he busts, or even if he just turns out to be a solid pro rather than a special one, you have damaged your future.

The scary part is that Pervis was probably a little bit thicker and stronger than Anthony Davis. If Pervis stays healthy with no foot injuries, he would have been the best player in the '89 draft easily. He went on to be a 20 point -11 reb 3 blocks and 3 assists guy for the Bullets in his third year. He never could stay healthy though. We'll see how Davis fills out. But he could be a Marcus Camby kind of guy. Right now he's a bit of a weakling for a every day prototype power forward. But put him with a beast of a center like Cousins and let him play goalie and rebounder, he'll help the team right away.

 

[LWP777]

I'd do Reke + our 1st for him easily. I really think he can become the next Kevin Garnett. I doubt there would be a team in the league would accept that trade though.

 

[mac]

I'd do Reke + our 1st for him easily. I really think he can become the next Kevin Garnett. I doubt there would be a team in the league would accept that trade though.

From what it sounds like Davis isn't that much of an offensive player. I would say Tyreke and Cousins are the only untouchables. I feel we just HAVE to give Tyreke 1 more offseason to work on that jumpshot.

 

[Hansel]

Cousins + Davis = playoff for 15 years at least

 

[Big Cuz 15]

i wouldn't give up cousins or reke. anybody else on the roster is expendable.

 

[UK_King]

Nope, unless we win the lottery (we won't) we won't be seeing Anthony Davis in a kings uni.

 

[bajaden]

Beware the college hype. Always. I am certianly not saying his career will got he same way, but as far as size, skillset, body type, and acheivements as a frehsman he bears a cosiderable resembalce to Pervis Ellison. Does that mean he will be Pervis Ellison? Of ocurse not. But it does just mean if we were all sitting here having this conversation in 1986 we might be making the same sorts of proposals to get "Never Nervous" Pervis, the freshman phenom/Final Four MVP.

So that said, set Reke and Cousins aside, and I would consider most anything else. We have enough talented youth that the pick and some of it could actually get it done, but only if the GM on the other side actually had doubts himself about Davis. And we have enough duplicative talents that a pick + some of it is not likely to open truly gaping holes elsewhere. But you can't give up your two elite talents to get a skinny college kid like this. If he busts, or even if he just turns out to be a solid pro rather than a special one, you have damaged your future.

I know you didn't mean it that way, but there is no comparison between Pervis Ellison and Davis. Ellison couldn't tie Davis shoes. That particular draft, I had Sean Elliott ranked as the best player in a very weak draft. If Ellison were in this coming draft along with Davis, he wouldn't even be in the lottery.

That said, I totally agree with you about what you want to give up to aquire him. I'm not giving up either Tyreke or Cuz. And, I think its possible to do a deal, depending on who is picking first, and what their glaring needs are. So until we know the actual draft order, its hard to say. I love Davis, and think he's a can't miss player, barring injury. But you don't take two steps backward to go one step forward. If its mean't to be, it'll happen.

 

[bajaden]

The scary part is that Pervis was probably a little bit thicker and stronger than Anthony Davis. If Pervis stays healthy with no foot injuries, he would have been the best player in the '89 draft easily. He went on to be a 20 point -11 reb 3 blocks and 3 assists guy for the Bullets in his third year. He never could stay healthy though. We'll see how Davis fills out. But he could be a Marcus Camby kind of guy. Right now he's a bit of a weakling for a every day prototype power forward. But put him with a beast of a center like Cousins and let him play goalie and rebounder, he'll help the team right away.

Ellison was around 6'9" and weighed about 240 pounds coming out of college. He was at times a terrific college player, and at other times, not so terrific. He was a skinny as a rail as a freshman at Lousiville, and during his four year stay, did manage to put on some muscle. I'd like to point out that Davis is a freshman, and that Ellison was a senior. So thats the comparison your making. As you pointed out, he did have a couple of good years intermersed with injury plagued years.

While Ellison was a shotblocker, he never put on a display like Davis, who I think is a much better athlete than Ellison was. But thats a long time ago and at this point, very subjective. It would be fun to see how the tandem of Cousins and Davis worked. Probably won't happen, but who knows. Now that were moving off that indian burial ground, maybe the basketball god's will once again smile upon us.

 

[Mass]

Davis would be perfect for this team. Just perfect. We really need to hope to get lucky in the lottery, and we should deserve it, for two main reasons: 1) we've always been unlucky in lotteries and 2) we are not tanking right now (karma please).
Davis is amazing, he can dominate a game without even scoring. But, for me, the most important thing is that he looks like he enjoys playing defense, it's not something that he has to do. That's his focus, along with rebounding, and I can't imagine a better fit for this team. If we could get the number 1 and draft him, there's no way we won't be contender in 3 or 4 years.

Drafting at number 1 is the only way we can get him. No way anybody is going to give us the 1st pick for Reke and our pick. And I don't want to trade Cousins for anyone.

 

[Bricklayer]

Drafting at number 1 is the only way we can get him. No way anybody is going to give us the 1st pick for Reke and our pick..

Heh, what? A great MANY teams might be tempted by that package. That's because its an over the top package that is simply too high a risk. Be great to have Davis, but we've already got megatalents on the team. We aren't desperately searching for a franchise guy. He's probably already in town.

 

[Mass]

Heh, what? A great MANY teams might be tempted by that package. That's because its an over the top package that is simply too high a risk. Be great to have Davis, but we've already got megatalents on the team. We aren't desperately searching for a franchise guy. He's probably already in town.

I don't know... I agree with you that we don't need a franchise player. That's why I think Davis would be great here. He doesn't need the ball, and I'm sure he would fit perfectly with Reke and Cousins. I'm just not sure that many teams would trade him for Reke and our pick, which I suppose would be around 8 or 9. I believe bigs like Davis have a much higher value in the NBA than guards.
That's just my opinion, and I'm not saying I would trade Tyreke and our pick for him. I'm sure we can find a good player even with our pick. It's going to be a deep draft and we don't need a superstar. Then, I love Tyreke and I want him to be great with the Kings. I'd hate to see him developing into a star if we trade him.

 

[Spike]

A player like Davis is definitely someone to fill in our current roster. He doesn't demand the ball on offense, and hopefully, he fills out. He's a basket protector, and right now that's what we need. We already have a cornerstone post player in DMC who can get 20/10 on any given night. We have a powerful slasher that gives teams fits in Evans (think about it for a second - who would guard him if he played against the Kings) who can go 20-5-5-5 on any given night. Bring in Davis, and 3/5 of our lineup is set. Then we just have to worry about acquiring a good shooter - probably the easiest thing to find in the league. A simple shooter for spacing. Could be at the PG, could be at the SF. That's why I feel everyone else is expendable.

Evans, Cousins, and Davis are a core built for the postseason...assuming Davis lives up to the hype. I'm not too worried about that, because he's a defensive guy, and that's what we're asking him to be in the NBA. Everyone else has a skillset that can be replaced by others.

 

[Kings Faithful]

If Davis translates to the NBA, he's a perfect compliment to DMC. I hate talking about it though because we don't have a shot in hell.

 

[swisshh]

Davis is an amazing defensive player who has the skills to become an offensive threat as well. Pairing him with Cousins would be lights out. I am not sure Reke + #6 pick would be enough. Charlotte is tanking hard for a reason.

 

[bajaden]

If Davis translates to the NBA, he's a perfect compliment to DMC. I hate talking about it though because we don't have a shot in hell.

It will all depend on the bouncing balls. We had the worse record in the league, and ended up picking 4th. So were due some good luck for a change. Never say never, unless the fat lady sings of course.

 

[gunks]

IF we can get him for Reke + our pick, I say do it. And I like Reke. Hell, I'd even throw in Jimmermania

DMC/Davis is just a sick nasty brutal frontcourt combo. Top 3 as soon as next season, #1 in the NBA not many seasons after. Shoot, I'd gut the team (sans Cousins) for Davis. Even going so far as offering MT(or IT) AND Reke AND our pick for him. DMC/Davis would be just that dominant a frontcourt duo.

Bigs win in the NBA.

 

[The_Jamal]

Without question I do it. The cool/scary part is if a team like the Bobcats with no talent get #1 overall would likely do it in a heartbeat to get Reke and a Top#6 pick on top of it. DMC /Davis has the potential to be a Moses Malone/KG type of frontcourt duo. You don't pass up on that kind of potential

 

[The_Jamal]

Davis is an amazing defensive player who has the skills to become an offensive threat as well. Pairing him with Cousins would be lights out. I am not sure Reke + #6 pick would be enough. Charlotte is tanking hard for a reason.

For a team like Charlotte with no talent? Getting Reke and a Jared Sully/Drummond type is a far better for a rebuild than just Davis alone.

 

[bajaden]

For a team like Charlotte with no talent? Getting Reke and a Jared Sully/Drummond type is a far better for a rebuild than just Davis alone.

I agree, that would be a hard package to pass up. Especially if we end up at number six. Who knows, after the lottery drawing, we might be sitting at number 2 or 3. So if we make the same offer then, they would have their choice of just about every player in the draft not named Davis. Wishful thinking on my part, but who knows.

 

[swisshh]

For a team like Charlotte with no talent? Getting Reke and a Jared Sully/Drummond type is a far better for a rebuild than just Davis alone.

I get the feeling teams that tank really hard are doing it because of a guy they want in the next draft. Figuring that Davis is that guy, Charlotte would ask a lot for him. The Kings were taking for Blake Griffin and if they had gotten the #1, it would have taken a whole lot to pry it away.