Williamson not returning???

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http://nwanews.com/story.php?paper=adg&section=Sports&storyid=164989



Corliss a king to fans

BY CHRIS COCOLES
Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006



ROGERS — He was the forgotten man on the Sacramento Kings’ bench most of last season, but Kings’ fans know who he is.
In last spring’s first-round NBA playoff series between Sacramento and 2005 champion San Antonio, the Kings were blowing out the Spurs, seconds away from squaring the firstround series 2-2.
A sellout crowd at Arco Arena started chanting “We want Corliss !” prompting Kings Coach Rick Adelman to ask the former Arkansas Razorbacks ’ standout if he wanted to go in the game.
“I was fine,” Williamson said. “I didn’t need to. But by the end of the game, the fans start chanting your name and you say ‘What the heck, we might as well do it.’”
Williamson capped Sacramento’s 102-84 victory with a field goal in his 40 seconds on the court.
“The young guys, anytime I’m in the game, are always trying to get me ball,” Williamson said Monday at the Razorback Basketball Golf Outing at Lost Springs Golf Club. “Don’t pass me the ball, you go ahead and shoot. I’m too old and have to loosen up.”
Williamson, 32, who aspires to be a coach when he retires, said he isn’t ready to take a seat on the bench in a suit and tie yet. But his playing time dropped dramatically in 2005-06.
Williamson averaged less than 10 minutes a game for the Kings, who re-acquired him late in the 2004-05 season in a trade that sent Chris Webber to Philadelphia. This, after winning the NBA’s Sixth Man of the Year award in 2002 for Detroit and being valuable reserve in its world championship run two years later.
Talk around Sacramento has been Williamson will not return to Sacramento, where he’s due $ 6. 5 million after playing in just 37 games. The dismissal of Adelman and hiring of new Coach Eric Musselman added to the anxiety.
Williamson said he’s ready to report to training camp next month, though as his three children get older he looks forward to spending more time with them and his wife Michelle. The family is comfortable being in Sacramento and hopeful of finishing his career in California.
“As far as the NBA goes, that’s my hometown,” said Williamson, who was drafted by Sacramento in the first round in 1995 after leading the Razorbacks to an NCAA title and back-to-back trips to the championship game. “Life comes full circle every now and then, and it definitely happened for me.”
Williamson’s charitable work has contributed to his popularity in Sacramento. Arco Arena fans saluted Williamson with a standing ovation on April 18 when he was presented the annual Oscar Robertson Triple Double Award for the Kings player who most impacts the community.
“When I think of Corliss I think of a consummate professional,” Razorbacks Coach Stan Heath said. “Just a high character guy.”
Williamson is active in the “Read to Achieve” and “Season of Giving” charity programs around Sacramento. Back home in Arkansas, he’s staged golf tournaments and fund-raisers for multiple organizations, and he’s spearheaded the funding for his hometown Russellville Boys and Girls Club, where he recently made a $ 1 million donation. The facility is named for the late L. V. Williamson, Corliss’ grandfather.
“I enjoy the whole process of trying to raise money for people in the community because I know growing up how many people helped me,” Williamson said. “It meant a lot. You never do it for awards, but to be recognized for an award like that. It was great.” His time in Sacramento — both the five
1 years to begin his career and the past 1 / 2 since being traded by the Philadelphia 76 ers — convinced Williamson he wants to make coaching his post-playing career. Williamson, the oldest player on the Kings’ roster, can be somewhat of a mentor to Ron Artest, the talented-but-troubled superstar who joined Sacramento at last season’s trade deadline. Over the years he picked the brain of Pete Carril, the former Princeton coach, Kings ’ assistant and noted hoops gym rat. “I try to be, I guess, a player-coach on the sidelines,” Williamson said. “I enjoy talking to the younger guys. I don’t like the fact that they call me old.”
 
#2
but the next paragraph clearly states:

Williamson said he’s ready to report to training camp next month, though as his three children get older he looks forward to spending more time with them and his wife Michelle. The family is comfortable being in Sacramento and hopeful of finishing his career in California.
 
#4
Doesn't make much sense. One sentence says he might not return to Sac (i dont see why he wouldn't) and the next says he's ready to report to training camp.
 
#5
I wish we could get out of that $6.5M contract and sign Bonzi and still be under the cap or a much needed big man. We don't need/want Williamson and his huge $6.5M on the books this year. Maybe Muss uses him this year. It sure sucked to pay him how little Adelman used him last year. I do like him, but he is much more of a cheerleader for us and we already have a cheerleading squad that would put him to shame. :D
 
#6
I think this meant that when his contract is up he won't return to Sac. I like corliss and I hope that Mussleman uses him more this year than Rick did. Does anyone remember that preseason game last year when Corliss just took over and scored like 18 points? He's still got some game in him and I think if he's getting some minutes, he can still be pretty productive.
 
#7
Corliss really isn't that old that he can't even play even 10 minutes. He is 32. Toni Kukoc is close to 40 and the dude still has his moments.
 
#8
I think he may be implying that he might not be back because of the business side of basket. His expiring contract make good trade bait.
 

HndsmCelt

Hall of Famer
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AAAAUUUGGGGG! Why is it some Kings fans are obsessed with trading AWAY expiring contracts? At this point if Geof is NOT going to bring in a legit big man through trades he ought to be COLLECTING expiring contracts so the Kings can make a REAL run at a top FA next season. Tha is unless he thinks he can land a legit big man in the lottery.
 
#12
we've got $13M coming off the books next offseason in a better free-agent market. i think this year is a grind and we'll have to wait for next offseason to make a strong move.

keep corliss! at least ONE of the good guys should retire a king.
 

CruzDude

Senior Member sharing a brew with bajaden
#13
Corliss, Vitaly and Hart have contracts expiring this coming year that are worth $6.5M, $3.6M and $1.8M respectively.

Corliss is a big, short SF in a PF body whose scoring is 95% within 10 ft of the basket. Pot is just a big load in the middle (285 lb!!) who may or may not have any usable skills. Don't know from what little I saw. And Jason Hart is a PG who shoots too much who might be a decent backup but is a better 1-2 down around #8-9 off someones bench.

Don't think GP wants to miss out on the nearly $12M they represent and none of them will help Kings to get deeper into the playoffs or even get to the playoffs for that matter. Corliss and Hart may be attractive as a package but who would Kings get for $8.3M ± that would make that worth while? Hard to see anyone out there needed them that much...........

Bottom line, Corliss may be better on bench helping younger guys and getting some minutes when needed, tho' infrequently. And he is top dog in the locker room, which means a lot to GP and can help Musselmen.
 
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AAAAUUUGGGGG! Why is it some Kings fans are obsessed with trading AWAY expiring contracts? At this point if Geof is NOT going to bring in a legit big man through trades he ought to be COLLECTING expiring contracts so the Kings can make a REAL run at a top FA next season. Tha is unless he thinks he can land a legit big man in the lottery.
I think it has been discussed before that even with the current expiring contracts coming off the books next year we will still not have any large cap space available. hoopshype salaries

http://www.hoopshype.com/salaries/sacramento.htm

show after Corliss,Poty,Hard,Woods,Price are all gone we still have 9 contracts totalling 54 Mil. the 06-07 cap is approx 53.5 mil. (different than luxury limit) Doesnt take into account any multi yr contracts if amundson makes team.

I assume we could ad a 5mil mid-level exception, but dont see how we get big FA signings.

Whereas teams close to salary cap can trade for our expiring contr
and with maybe get a 10 mil impact player

So I think the expiring contracts are worth more as trade pieces then just letting them expire.

Also only think two FA this season got 10plus/yr (Ben Wallace,Peja)
seems that FA contracts have been really affected by sal caps, and trading to teams close to cap to get big name talent (hopefully mid-season Garnett trade?) may be better option?
 
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wait, according to espn, "The luxury tax threshold will be $65.42 million, up $3.7 million from the $61.7 million threshold last season. Teams with payrolls over that will have to pay a dollar-for-dollar tax on the amount of their payroll that exceeds the $65 million." (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2516704)

so what does it matter what the salary cap is, aren't we concerned about the luxury cap? which means at next year's $54M payroll, we are about $10M under the luxury cap.
 

HndsmCelt

Hall of Famer
#16
I think it has been discussed before that even with the current expiring contracts coming off the books next year we will still not have any large cap space available. hoopshype salaries

http://www.hoopshype.com/salaries/sacramento.htm

show after Corliss,Poty,Hard,Woods,Price are all gone we still have 9 contracts totalling 54 Mil. the 06-07 cap is approx 53.5 mil. (different than luxury limit) Doesnt take into account any multi yr contracts if amundson makes team.

I assume we could ad a 5mil mid-level exception, but dont see how we get big FA signings.

Whereas teams close to salary cap can trade for our expiring contr
and with maybe get a 10 mil impact player

So I think the expiring contracts are worth more as trade pieces then just letting them expire.

Also only think two FA this season got 10plus/yr (Ben Wallace,Peja)
seems that FA contracts have been really affected by sal caps, and trading to teams close to cap to get big name talent (hopefully mid-season Garnett trade?) may be better option?
Thank you for agreeing with me. We need to be AQUIRING expiring contracts not trading them for table scrap players.
 
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yes we would be 10 mil under the luxury cap, but could not make a 10 mil offer to FA next year due to Salary cap. Could use 5-6 mil exception or take on more salary in trades maybe.
 
#18
Thank you for agreeing with me. We need to be AQUIRING expiring contracts not trading them for table scrap players.
If a good trade for one of our core players plus expiring contracts gets us Kevin Garnett (hardley table scraps) then yeah using them in a trade is better than aquiring table scraps. no point trading expiring for a long term contract if it was for table scraps.

If no trade that helps us come along, then aquiring more expired contracts might be plan B.
 
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I wish we could get out of that $6.5M contract and sign Bonzi and still be under the cap or a much needed big man. We don't need/want Williamson and his huge $6.5M on the books this year. Maybe Muss uses him this year. It sure sucked to pay him how little Adelman used him last year. I do like him, but he is much more of a cheerleader for us and we already have a cheerleading squad that would put him to shame. :D

I would rather have Scoreless Corliss than that backstabber Bonzi. You need some guys with class on your team, even if they don't contribute on the court.
 
#22
I doubt they make the move to get under the cap next season or trade the contracts. Rather I think they let the expirings fall off the books, get the cap down a bit, and then try to get a steal with the MLE next year. There will be a lot of quality MLE guys next year.
 
#24
So now turning down a contract offer from us = backstabber?
No he has been a backstabber his whole career and this was just a contract year for him so he had to be good. I remember all the "I want to stay" comments. He was offered a fair contract and lied to all of us. I can't even believe some people were saying to pay him what he'd want.
 

VF21

Super Moderator Emeritus
SME
#25
You're kidding, right?

The NBA is a business. Bonzi is marketing a commodity - himself. Am I upset he didn't accept the Kings' offer? Somewhat. Am I viewing Bonzi as a "backstabber"? No more than I view the Kings as backstabbers every time they trade a player.

Trading players and accepting larger contracts as part of free agency are just parts of the business of the NBA.

Bonzi made a statement that I'm sure he believed at the time he said it. Then, for a variety of reasons INCLUDING the puffery of his agent, Bonzi decided he was worth more than the Kings were willing to offer. He was putting himself and his family first - ahead of a bunch of screaming strangers and a huge corporate entity.

There's nothing wrong with it. The only real problem is that Bonzi and William Phillips overestimated his fair market value and now they're stuck.

You're acting as though he personally lied to you or someone else. He didn't.
 
#26
I don't care about Bonzi anymore, he got what he deserved--a big fat paycheck of nothing. He wanted money, we offered more than a reasonable price and he declined. He sure is sitting pretty right about now...
 
#27
No he has been a backstabber his whole career and this was just a contract year for him so he had to be good. I remember all the "I want to stay" comments. He was offered a fair contract and lied to all of us. I can't even believe some people were saying to pay him what he'd want.
he did say he wanted to stay, and that he liked it here, but he also threw in some added bs like wanting to be on winning team, if the situation was right, thats it was all up to the Kings and the Maloofs. heck even Mobley said he'd like to stay I believe. i think in all honestly Petrie was looking at his roster and the future and thought Wells just didn't fit.
 
#29
I'd still want Bonzi back...i thought with Bonzi and a defensive big we could have gone all the way. Well, since we didn't acquire either of those might as well look to next season to unload.
 
#30
I'd still want Bonzi back...i thought with Bonzi and a defensive big we could have gone all the way. Well, since we didn't acquire either of those might as well look to next season to unload.
I would like Bonzi back as well, but only for a low-money, short-term deal.