why not start a protest?
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That's probably the only thing that would work. That'd be amazing though.
Dreadnought
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That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. If that were true, minorities and women still couldn't vote.
Something about stamps and taxes, too. Foundations of liberty and what not.
I think a protest is worthwhile just to counter the vocal minority of naysayers, but just a 3 hour march and then a trip to Starbucks won't really accomplish much. What happened in Egypt, or more practically what's going on in Wisconsin right now, that isn't protest that's occupation. 24/7 complete shut down. I don't think that type of thing would ever happen for this type of matter.
Gary
All-Star
LOL.. sure I will.
Glenn
Hall of Famer
The vote to research this issue even more than the research already done in the last decade was unanimous so we can't get any more than that on board. It is presently being studied and I have heard that over and over and over.
This will sound pessimistic but we live in a small town with small town ideas and I think that's the major problem. I'm from Minneapolis and I swear that a new arena for this sport or that sport is being built or renovated every 5 to 10 years or so. Minneapolis values having athletics and this area doesn't. This little group here at KingsFans.com is hardly representative of the community as a whole.
I guess this is the wrong place to discuss this but it hardly seems an issue that should be shunted to the side.
If the team leaves I will thank the Malooofs for their patience and wish them luck.
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Glenn
Hall of Famer
Let me add, I don't think the team is going anywhere this year. The Maloofs have been patient as I said and know that the team is making a turnaround. They know even with a crappy arena, their income will go up or their losses will go down. But, they are business people and it would be stupid if they didn't explore all their options. The ICON group or whatever it is will come back with a report in a few months. I can't see them leaving with that in the future.
I very much see it as a warning and perhaps orchestrated with the NBA, a serious warning, and now we'll see how the city and people react. Maybe a demonstration makes sense. Sure can't hurt. Good idea.
Maybe a letter writing campaign. I personally don't go to games because I can't stand watching losses and Social Security doesn't leave a lot of discretionary cash to fling about. I definitely would go if the team was winning. Perhaps a letter should be written to the Malloofs asking them what we can do besides vote. I'm literally across the street from Sacramento but I might as well be in Mexico for the good that this does me come voting time. I can think and I can write.
I very much see it as a warning and perhaps orchestrated with the NBA, a serious warning, and now we'll see how the city and people react. Maybe a demonstration makes sense. Sure can't hurt. Good idea.
Maybe a letter writing campaign. I personally don't go to games because I can't stand watching losses and Social Security doesn't leave a lot of discretionary cash to fling about. I definitely would go if the team was winning. Perhaps a letter should be written to the Malloofs asking them what we can do besides vote. I'm literally across the street from Sacramento but I might as well be in Mexico for the good that this does me come voting time. I can think and I can write.
I tend to support the "warning" idea just because the Anaheim deals that were reported seemed pretty lousy and moving to SoCal is one thing that could really set Sacramentans off. But I also think it could backfire because a move to SoCal is such a slap in the face. It does seem that we finally have a determined and united council though.
I thought the same way. But damn the NBA sure went all out at the All Star Weekend to tell us that our team has been exchanging love letters with another city. I think this latest arena deal should be given a chance. If it fails, hell I'll even help them pack to move. But we all know there is a lockout coming this summer and it's going to be the mother of all lockouts. Next season is going to be either cancelled or shortened. So no harm in letting the next process play out. Why file to move and then go sit out for a very long time?
Circa_1985_Fan
All-Star
Indeed...it's not the Maloofs fault, and don't blame them as businessmen for exploring all other options. I'm just not sure that there's more than a couple dozen people that would show up to city hall to 'protest' keeping the Kings here unfortunately. I'm all or it if something large scale gets organized, but I just don't see it happening.
This is not a shot against Sacramento, but if you put off that market, in favor of a far bigger market, it might be worth the trade-off to the Maloofs. That is, assuming they had a great deal in place to move to SoCal. I also wonder what the impact on their TV deal would be. Either way, I doubt they file for relocation this year. I think this is a warning shot to the city, and then we'll see what happens in the coming months, not just with the arena issues, but with the CBA and so forth.
Me personally, I'd feel for the city and the region, but I'd also be kind of happy because Anaheim is right in my neck of the woods. Even from Long Beach, it's easier for me to get to an Angels game than to a Laker game or a Dodger game. The parking is way better, the area is nicer, etc. I could actually support my team in person. I'm not rooting for them to move, but it's not as bitter a pill for me as it would be for most here.
If the locals arranged something during spring break, it might have a legitimate chance of garnering some support. But I guess that would be too late, since the deadline is March 1st.
I was strictly speaking from the "if they're bluffing" perspective, then it could be a bad move, especially if the Anaheim deal is as lame as the one that had previously been reported. It does seem like this has lit the fire under the right people but public opinion may be a different matter.
They could be bluffing, but that doesn't mean that they won't file for relocation. Doesn't necessarily have to be Anaheim. I think the point is that, if they can't get a deal in Sacramento, they're seriously considering leaving.
Fear the Putin
Starter
I'm talking about protests and demonstrations today. You're right. America was practically built on rejecting English oppression and throughout U.S. history protests have garnered a better life for people today.
I don't know where it went wrong, but compare Vietnam protests and the Iraq/Afghanistan protests and you will see that people have definitely become more lenient.
It seems like any anti-government demonstration that the U.S. has today turns out scores of people and thats it. People come just to say they did "something" and go back to their everyday life the next day.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
In the end despite all the hyperbole in the current political cimate, when you are top dog, and relatively unchallenged as top dog, it takes a lot of teeth out of protests. You can't easily point to somewhere else where they are much better off, nor can you as easily wave the fear card. During the Cold War there was always the Soviet Union who had to be defeated. The stakes seemed critically high. After the Cold War was won, not so much. Only now after a decade of financial mismanagement and the emerging power of China are you starting to get the same sort of histrionics again as people sense a threat.
Well, in the little world of sports fandom, there could hardly be a bigger threat than what is hanging over Sacramento's fans now. Its been hangin for years, but people have been playing ostrich and ignoring it. Now it can't be igonored. You might be surprsied at the passion that is still there when faced wiht a threat. The question now just is has the stubborn refusal to recognize the threat for so long already probven fatal? Or is there time for once last desperate rescue here?
vistacruza_kings
Bench
9/11 truth!