Why No Signing?

Kingster

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I'm curious. Do you think the Maloofs/Petrie aren't signing someone because: 1) they want to conserve their cash due to their financial situation; 2) because of the new CBA; or 3) they don't see anybody out there worth getting? Or, maybe all or some of the above?

My gut tells me that their overiding consideration right now is conserving cash. My guess is they are bleeding cash like crazy on their Las Vegas operation and just can't afford it. The other reasons may have some substance, but probably are more excuses for not doing something now to make it more palatable for the fans.
 
They have said they are looking for short term contracts, have been focused for a while on having caproom for next offseason (although it may be impossible to use it with a ridiculous lockout looming), and while people haven't always wanted to listen to me on this, we really are loaded. Add all that up, and I think we are likely looking to sign guys for 1 yr, and guys have been waiting to see if they could get more years someplace else first.

Also note that they said, and have apparently been true to their word, that we weren't going to move on free agency until after summer league. So again probably waiting to see what we have first, and if any summer league guys could fill any of the slots before we went after a vet.

In the end if we resigned Brockman, resigned Ime, and signed let's say Eddie House, that would really be enough. You figure we have already added Cousins, Dalembert and Whiteside this summer. Are effectively adding Cisco. Are going to benefit from having Landry around for a full training camp etc. And are going to get natural improvement from Reke, Omri and Donte. Maybe even a little more out of JT. We're already a lot better and aren't dependent on a free agent to lift us up here.
 
Maybe a combination of factors, but mainly there's just no need to add a multi-year deal. The only position we'd add somebody is at SG, and the combination of Beno, Cisco and a little Donte/Omri will take up the vast majority of the minutes. That might be a little thin, which is why we'll add another body, but there's no reason to add a 3-4 year deal for $3-5 mil a year as even some of the more limited guys are getting.
 
Whatever the reason, thank goodness we have not entered this free agent fray. Everyone who made sense for us fit-wise was signed to a contract that would have been a mistake for us (minus the stars of course). Redick at 6M per year? Raja Bell on a three year deal? Wesley Matthews for 34M? Miller on a 5y30M deal is the closest, but he took less to play for a champion contender and no state tax in Florida. For us it would have been more like 5/40-45...which would have been stupid.

Other than the Heat I think we may have won the offseason with the Dalembert trade, Cousins and Whiteside, and by deliberately sitting out the free agent spending spree.
 
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To the OP, I'm sure the Maloofs financial situation has something to do with it, but even if it didn't, who should we sign? According to reports, the front office put the calls out to the big fish like the Miami Three, but we all knew that nothing was going to break our way on that front. So who else should we have made a run at this summer?

I think the smart money says that the Maloofs should be saving their money now, because they're going to have to pay Tyreke, and then DMC, and they might decide to keep Landry and maybe get a sensible deal for Dalembert. Plus we'll need a backup point guard if Beno walks, and we'll need to do something with JT and Donte and Omri. We'll have to sign a lot of extensions or replace a lot of slots on the roster in the next three years. The two-headed monster is already taking shape. The core is developing, but will need time to mature. Even if we signed a mid level talent, it wouldn't accelerate things very much. Might as well stand pat and see what we actually have.
 
Well, GP has already said that any signings and tooling with the roster would be done after the Vegas Summer League, so we'll probably hear of some minor signings to fill our the roster with vets after Vegas.
 
I would fully expect a few smaller deals to be announced before they head to training camp, but if your expecting something exciting to happen your going to be disappointed.

With so much young talent spread across the roster, I think the front office has correctly discerned that this is a good time to be patient. Watching some of the teams out there give large deals to players highly doubtful to live up to them makes me happy we are on the sidelines this offseason. With a new CBA coming next offseason it is simply much wiser for a team that isn't already a playoff contender to stay on the sidelines and fill in the roster holes with cheaper veterans or young players on short contracts.
 
Regarding signing someone after the summer camp, to me, it just begs the question: Why?
The answer I come up with: It's cheap. And I wouldn't castigate the Maloofs for being cheap in these trying financial times. You've got to do what you've got to do. They opened the second tower of the Palms in 2005 for a cost of $600M. That's just before the crash. I wonder what the occupancy rate is now? My gnawing concern is that if financial stress is the primary cause behind the strategy and the tactics, then maybe next year won't be any different. The economy doesn't look about to skyrocket anytime soon. Maybe they jettison Dalembert for nadda and sit tight with no FA signing next year to ride out the storm. Still, it could be a pretty good team even without a big name FA.
 
Kingster said:
Regarding signing someone after the summer camp, to me, it just begs the question: Why?
The answer I come up with: It's cheap. And I wouldn't castigate the Maloofs for being cheap in these trying financial times. You've got to do what you've got to do. They opened the second tower of the Palms in 2005 for a cost of $600M. That's just before the crash. I wonder what the occupancy rate is now? My gnawing concern is that if financial stress is the primary cause behind the strategy and the tactics, then maybe next year won't be any different. The economy doesn't look about to skyrocket anytime soon. Maybe they jettison Dalembert for nadda and sit tight with no FA signing next year to ride out the storm. Still, it could be a pretty good team even without a big name FA.
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I would have to think along the lines of them not wanting to sign people until after Summer League is mostly due to maybe wanting to see what we have in summer league? I can understand it... I would think they've gone out and signed people in recent years that haven't made much of a difference so possibly they're trying to avoid spending money they might not think they have to spend if someone in summer league wow's us and we can grab them for cheap to fill needs we have. Trying to avoid eating up our cap space possibly on players that don't make a huge impact on our team, they might think we would have to overpay to get certain players to come here instead of already contending/playoff teams. That's just my opinion on it anyways but I would have preferred they went after a couple of the types of guys we could have used before they got snatched up... Maybe they're holding on to the cap space for a trade too.. not sure
 
You're way overthinking it. If it made logical sense to sign a substantial contract right now there would be reason to look deeper, but it doesn't.
 
NME said:
You're way overthinking it. If it made logical sense to sign a substantial contract right now there would be reason to look deeper, but it doesn't.
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The logic that I'm thinking of is dollars and cents. Maybe others are thinking of the logic of winning and losing. The two aren't necessarily the same. If they bring in a FA who could "pay for himself", I can see that. A guy who could bring in enough additional revenue to justify his cost.
 
SacKings7 said:
Less is more this TDOS
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Agree... I really want to get a look at what the youngsters can do this year. Plus, we will have a TON of capspace next summer with Dalembert coming off the books, and whatever one and done players we sign.
 
hammystyle said:
Whatever the reason, thank goodness we have not entered this free agent fray. Everyone who made sense for us fit-wise was signed to a contract that would have been a mistake for us (minus the stars of course). Redick at 6M per year? Raja Bell on a three year deal? Wesley Matthews for 34M? Miller on a 5y30M deal is the closest, but he took less to play for a champion contender and no state tax in Florida. For us it would have been more like 5/40-45...which would have been stupid.

Other than the Heat I think we may have won the offseason with the Dalembert trade, Cousins and Whiteside, and by deliberately sitting out the free agent spending spree.
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My thoughts exactly. The only commodity we need is getting grossly overpaid for at this moment.

Also, that we "need" a shooter right now is a relative term. With Cousins on board, the only player we'll be lacking is a 3-pt shooter. We will need that guy once we start making the playoffs. The best long-term solution would be to draft a SG who is a decent shooter and can play a little defense next year. That type of player happens to be a GP favorite, so I have no doubt we'll have one 12 months from now, and on a much better contract than we would get if we signed a Miller or Reddick this summer.
 
captain bill said:
My thoughts exactly. The only commodity we need is getting grossly overpaid for at this moment.

Also, that we "need" a shooter right now is a relative term. With Cousins on board, the only player we'll be lacking is a 3-pt shooter. We will need that guy once we start making the playoffs. The best long-term solution would be to draft a SG who is a decent shooter and can play a little defense next year. That type of player happens to be a GP favorite, so I have no doubt we'll have one 12 months from now, and on a much better contract than we would get if we signed a Miller or Reddick this summer.
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I think we have pretty solid 3pt shooting from our 3... It's our 2 that might be lacking but who is to say Cisco and Beno don't pick that portion up this year..
I think people forget that Cisco has shot an average of .378 from the 3% line most of his career and has shot a .39 a couple seasons.. He's an average/solid defender...

I think in a perfect world Cisco steps up and works with Evans this year much like Beno was able to last year and Beno can be our first guard off the bench which would give our backcourt a lot of versatility in terms of who we pick up (Summer Leaguer or FA)
 
'89 Kings Fan said:
How about we give Rashad McCants another tryout? He seems to fit our current theme of toughness and he wouldn't cost more than the minimum:
http://hoopshype.com/rumors/tag/rashad_mccants

I think he would sign for a non-guaranteed contract so if we was a problem just waive him. Plus we have to sign someone besides Brockman since we are under the minimum salary.
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Damn, after reading that piece on McCants i feel really bad for him
 
I feel bad for Mccants until i realize that theres no way he cant play in europe. Hes got some serious skills. If there isnt an NBA team that will take him then im sure he can find a league overseas to play in. With his skill he could be a star player in FIBA.
 
he should go international for a few years to resurrect his career then teams might give him another shot. hes still young at 25. if he plays 3 great years overseas a team may overlook his rap in a second chance
 
there is no point in overspending on free agents that really won't affect the up coming season. although i think he should sign a shooter or two on small contracts...no more than 2 years. ronald murry, eddie house and rashad mccants come to mind to fill that void.
 
'89 Kings Fan said:
How about we give Rashad McCants another tryout? He seems to fit our current theme of toughness and he wouldn't cost more than the minimum:
http://hoopshype.com/rumors/tag/rashad_mccants

I think he would sign for a non-guaranteed contract so if we was a problem just waive him. Plus we have to sign someone besides Brockman since we are under the minimum salary.
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You know, I like it. Somehow I had forgotten Rashad, and I was one of the few people who thought resigning him last summer wouldn't be a bad idea. As far as talent to $$ I sincerely doubt you could do better at this point. Thing is that we already passed on resigning him last year, and the questions with him were always about attitude and selfishness. Did we already pass judgment on him last summer, and hence not try to resign him? If so, it would be hard to see us bringing him back to disrupt our chemisry.
 
you know, just watching Wall v. Dallas here, and KI like what I ma seeing out of Harvard's Jeremy Lin more than anything any of our three invites have shown thus far.
 
Bricklayer said:
You know, I like it. Somehow I had forgotten Rashad, and I was one of the few people who thought resigning him last summer wouldn't be a bad idea. As far as talent to $$ I sincerely doubt you could do better at this point. Thing is that we already passed on resigning him last year, and the questions with him were always about attitude and selfishness. Did we already pass judgment on him last summer, and hence not try to resign him? If so, it would be hard to see us bringing him back to disrupt our chemisry.
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Wasn't McCants also kind of looking for a decent payday last year? I see to remember him wanting more money than I thought he was worth.
 
Can somebody explain to me why we are geared up for next years FA market?? who will be out there that we need?
 
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