Who's on your MUST KEEP list?

[VF21]

We've been discussing Garcia in another thread. It brought up the subject of which players people think we MUST keep. So, since it's TDOS and I know how much everyone loves polls, here's a poll. You can vote for more than one player; your votes are public.

I only had room for ten names so a couple of players have been left off...

 

[NoBonus]

Here is mine:

Martin
Artest
Garcia
SAR

All of these are under team-favorable contracts and can play defense. Yes, Garcia needs to improve, but he is so versitile; I think the Kings need to hang on to him to see what happens with him this year. Will he develop or stay the same? Let's find out.

 

[SacKings4Life21]

Ron And Bonzi for me. Ship the rest hahah. I like mike, he brings alot to the game. I want to see wat muss will do to him on D. If he can become half decent, he will be an all star. Brad can only stay if we get a shot blocker PF. SAR is great but he is good trade bait to. KMArt is awesome, i love him, but he could be trade bait to

 

[hammystyle]

I only think Artest and Martin are must-keeps.

 

[VF21]

moecarol is the first person to vote for everyone.

That's why I like public polls.

 

[LPKingsFan]

I have several categories:

MUST KEEP: Artest, Martin

Should keep under most circumstances: Bibby, Wells

Solid, worth keeping around unless we find a significant upgrade: Miller, SAR, Garcia

MUST move: Thomas, Hart

Whatever/indifferent: Price, Williamson, Sampson, Monia, Potapenko

 

[NoBonus]

I think SAR's solid and consistent performance in the playoffs this year coupled with his team-favorable contract make him nearly untradable unless it is for a premier PF or C.

 

[NoBonus]

moecarol is the first person to vote for everyone.

That's why I like public polls.

I think that it is also interesting that only you and moecarol (right now) feel that Bibby is a "must keep". Why do you feel he is a must keep?

 

[Warhawk]

I voted for Bibby, Wells, Artest, Martin, SAR, and Garcia.

Of course, losing one or two of these to get Garnett back may not be out of the question, but these are the ones I think are contract-friendly for their development/future or just have talent worth their $$$.

I'd like to see Price get a little more experience and maybe Monia as well, but I don't really care too much if they get traded.

I'd like to see this team develop some young talent for strong bench play and future starting roles.

 

[Warhawk]

I think that it is also interesting that only you and moecarol (right now) feel that Bibby is a "must keep". Why do you feel he is a must keep?

I voted for him as well - he needs to improve his defense (and he did somewhat after Artest came), but who are we realistically going to get who's better?

He can run the team and drive and shoot. We need all of that.

 

[Kings Fan]

While wanting to keep certain players may be a question of talent, it is also a question of the quality of contract (performance/dollar spent).

Good contracts: Ron, SAR, Martin, Garcia
Ok contract: Bibby (for now)
Bad contracts: Miller, Williamson (but at least it is an expiring contract)
Really BAD contract: KT

To move KT, you almost have to get another bad contract in return or package him with someone more favorable.

 

[NoBonus]

While wanting to keep certain players may be a question of talent, it is also a question of the quality of contract (performance/dollar spent).

Good contracts: Ron, SAR, Martin, Garcia
Ok contract: Bibby (for now)
Bad contract: Miller, Williamson (but at least it is an expiring contract)
Really BAD contract: KT

To move KT, you almost have to get another bad contract in return or package him with someone more favorable.

This is part of my reasoning for selecting the four I did (Artest, SAR, Martin, Garcia), but I also think these four offer a lot in the way of ability and potential.

 

[VF21]

I think that it is also interesting that only you and moecarol (right now) feel that Bibby is a "must keep". Why do you feel he is a must keep?

I think Mike can step up and play the kind of game Muss is going to demand of him. He's got fantastic court vision, I don't think we could really upgrade at the 1 easily, AND he's got an outside shot that we will still need. If we get rid of Bibby, we're down to no real outside shooters (no offense to Ron...). I don't like that idea at all.

 

[Prophetess]

I have several categories:

MUST KEEP: Artest, Martin

Should keep under most circumstances: Bibby, Wells

Solid, worth keeping around unless we find a significant upgrade: Miller, SAR, Garcia

MUST move: Thomas, Hart

Whatever/indifferent: Price, Williamson, Sampson, Monia, Potapenko

pretty much the same, that's why i chose to keep 6, Ron, Wells, Kevin, Garcia, SAR, and Bibby

 

[LPKingsFan]

While wanting to keep certain players may be a question of talent, it is also a question of the quality of contract (performance/dollar spent).

Good contracts: Ron, SAR, Martin, Garcia
Ok contract: Bibby (for now)
Bad contracts: Miller, Williamson (but at least it is an expiring contract)
Really BAD contract: KT

To move KT, you almost have to get another bad contract in return or package him with someone more favorable.

That list looks about right, but I think you have to have expiring contracts (Corliss and Potapenko) in a category of their own because of their unique nature.

 

[NoBonus]

I think Mike can step up and play the kind of game Muss is going to demand of him. He's got fantastic court vision, I don't think we could really upgrade at the 1 easily, AND he's got an outside shot that we will still need. If we get rid of Bibby, we're down to no real outside shooters (no offense to Ron...). I don't like that idea at all.

That brings up a good point; from where can we get more offensive production? Bonzi and Artest have not been real consistant. Would the Kings be better off offensively with a different SG than Bonzi? Or perhaps some long-distance-shooting role players instead of bangers?

 

[NoBonus]

That list looks about right, but I think you have to have expiring contracts (Corliss and Potapenko) in a category of their own because of their unique nature.

Indeed. The real question is, will those guys be traded to teams looking for expiring contracts or will the Kings keep them to get the cap space next year?

 

[BawLa]

I picked more players than most because I feel that continuity is a big factor for success in the NBA. If we keep jumbling up our players then there will be a need to spend time developing chemistry both on and off the court. Since we have a new coach this might be the better time to make some big trades. But ultimately I want to win sooner than later so here is my list:

Bibby
Martin
Wells
Artest
SAR
Garcia

 

[Amanjoy]

All I can say (and I know you've all heard it from me before) is don't count out Ronnie Price! The boy can play!

 

[pdxKingsFan]

I went with Bibby, Wells, Artest, Martin and Garcia. I'd like to keep Reef, but we should be improving our front line and I'd be ok if him leaving got us better up front. Obviously I'd rather move Thomas but I can't see someone wanting his questionable attitude and contract. Miller needs to revert back to the pre-Kings Miller or go elsewhere. Price might be worth hanging onto but he's certainly not a must keep or even a should keep right now. Everyone else is a nice moveable expiring contract and I expect them gone by the trade deadline.

 

[Gary]

I went with Bibby, Wells, Artest, Martin and Garcia. I'd like to keep Reef, but we should be improving our front line and I'd be ok if him leaving got us better up front. Obviously I'd rather move Thomas but I can't see someone wanting his questionable attitude and contract. Miller needs to revert back to the pre-Kings Miller or go elsewhere. Price might be worth hanging onto but he's certainly not a must keep or even a should keep right now. Everyone else is a nice moveable expiring contract and I expect them gone by the trade deadline.

Why in gods name would you like to get rid of SAR's value of a contract. He offers us more than his contract is worth


Garcia, Martin, Bibby, Artest, and SAR (because SAR is a good contract to have).

 

[Big Cuz 15]

hehe kenny thomas got some love

 

[VF21]

Amanjoy - Your MUST KEEPs are everybody but Brad Miller and Jason Hart? You're kidding, right?

How do you honestly expect the team to get any better if those are the only players you'd be willing to move?

 

[KINGS16]

For me, I'd keep Bibby,Artest,Martin,Garcia,SAR and Brad but if we can get a powerhouse center and a back up PG for Brad,KT,Monia,Hart,Corliss and Vitaly that's fine with me. We definitely need depth at the 4 and 5 spot and a back up PG whose a scorer....and I don't really mind getting Bjax back if he's available because he's still good for another 2 to 3 yrs and if were trying to win a championship now, these are our best options! GO MUSSELMAN!!!
GO KINGS!!!!!

 

[Bballkingsrock]

My KEEP list:

BONZI
ARTEEST
K-MArt

I dint put Bibby just because a lot of times he has off days and we might need a pure point guard with a some back up shooters. And maybe trade for a PF that can shoot also with a big man who can rebound and block and have a poor mans version of that as a back up.

 

[pdxKingsFan]

Why in gods name would you like to get rid of SAR's value of a contract. He offers us more than his contract is worth

I don't want to Gary. He's not on my must keep because we need to improve our front line and if he has to go to do it, well that's just business. Preferably we move Thomas and then maybe Miller, but their contracts are huge and even Miller may be undesireable after this last playoff performance. The same things that make Reef worth keeping make him a good trading asset. Of course I'd love to keep him, I just think he's more of a luxury than a core asset right at this moment.

 

[LPKingsFan]

I don't want to Gary. He's not on my must keep because we need to improve our front line and if he has to go to do it, well that's just business. Preferably we move Thomas and then maybe Miller, but their contracts are huge and even Miller may be undesireable after this last playoff performance. The same things that make Reef worth keeping make him a good trading asset. Of course I'd love to keep him, I just think he's more of a luxury than a core asset right at this moment.

Exactly. It's a MUST keep list after all. Not an "it'd be nice if we kept" list

 

[DocHolliday]

Bonzi
Artest
Martin
Garcia


If we could get a more complete point guard, I might not be opposed to a Bibby deal. I would also have no problem keeping him

Brad has to go.

I like Shareef, but if we can package up him and some others and bring in a more athletic power forward cool.

Kenny Thomas, samy synopsis as Shareef.

Hart, self explanatory

Price, I like him but if he was the perfect piece to complete a great move, then I say do it.

 

[Amanjoy]

Amanjoy - Your MUST KEEPs are everybody but Brad Miller and Jason Hart? You're kidding, right?

How do you honestly expect the team to get any better if those are the only players you'd be willing to move?

I think the team is fine the way it is. All we need is a backup PG that can better run the team than Hart, and a more assertive big man inside.

 

[Amanjoy]

OK...maybe they're not ALL must keeps...but I don't think you tweak too much with a good thing. Good teams don't re-vamp their rosters every year. They just look at the holes and try to fill them. The Kings don't have too many holes right now, and haven't played together for too long...so I say give it a little while before making players succeptable to trades at any time.

My life-or-death must-keeps are:

Ron, Bonzi, KMart, Ronnie Price, Reef. The rest would be nice if we could keep them. Brad and Hart could go, and I wouldn't be too sad.