Who should New Mngmnt keep as core
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jalfa
Starter
true, but the locker room does seem pretty poisoned, so there needs to be a purge to some extent. which is one of the reasons keeping players from the trade doesn't seem that bad an idea.
Big Cuz 15
All-Star
patterson has been a good addition to help spread the floor for tyreke to work.
Darth Divac
Bench
No love for Jimmer? Wow, he works great with Reke too. Imagine what we could've had-Reke, T-rob, Jimmer, Cuz and Salmons. Amazing. High scoring, explosive, strong rebounding-wow.
Padrino
All-Star
hm. i'm abstaining from the vote, because i'm not sure you can constitute a "core" out of the kings' existing roster. but as far as offseason plans go, i'd say hold onto DMC and tyreke for dear life, and keep jason thompson while you search for a defensive-minded PF to team with demarcus. thompson would then be best served coming off the bench as a hustle big should the kings acquire another starting caliber PF. after that, retain one of jimmer fredette, isaiah thomas, and marcus thornton. they're all ball dominant guards who clog the rotation in combination with each other, but i think thomas could morph into bobby jackson lite if you first pin him to the bench, and jimmer's the one among them who has the ability to morph into an off-the-ball standstill jump shooter, a la jj reddick, so i'd be okay with keeping either thomas or fredette. i've long suggested that thornton's immediate value is highest, so he can very easily become trade bait...
he's not present in the poll, and it may simply be that we're all in agreement (a rarity at kf.com), but you just ditch john salmons for whatever you can get. hayes and aldrich are both end-of-the-bench bigs, so i'd say trade the undersized hayes and re-sign aldrich on the cheap. i have no opinion on what the kings should do with toney douglas. let's just say keep him as an inexpensive 12th man who plays a little defense. as for patrick patterson, he sticks out to me as the one player listed who i'm unsure about, because i haven't had enough time to evaluate his worth on this particular team. i do like him, and i like his familiarity with demarcus, but it seems to me that you keep either thompson or patterson if the goal is to put a defensive presence next to DMC in the frontcourt (and i believe it should be). i may be more inclined to keep patterson, because both he and thompson are role players who understand how to stick to their roles, and perhaps it's just time to move on from jason thompson, shed some of the hangover from these down years. he has value around the league, and could make for a sturdy trade asset. so if i revise my initial thinking and replace thompson with patterson, the lineup looks like this:
PG __________
SG tyreke evans
SF __________
PF __________
C demarcus cousins
bench:
PG isaiah thomas or jimmer fredette, __________
SG __________, toney douglas
SF __________, __________
PF patrick patterson, __________
C __________, cole aldrich
there's a lot of room for overhaul here, which would satisfy new ownership's likely desire to clean house, but you still retain your building blocks, as well as a few useful roleplayers. and if you can't come up with the right kind of PF to start alongside demarcus, then patterson becomes your starter in the interim. there are certainly worse scenarios than that...
he's not present in the poll, and it may simply be that we're all in agreement (a rarity at kf.com), but you just ditch john salmons for whatever you can get. hayes and aldrich are both end-of-the-bench bigs, so i'd say trade the undersized hayes and re-sign aldrich on the cheap. i have no opinion on what the kings should do with toney douglas. let's just say keep him as an inexpensive 12th man who plays a little defense. as for patrick patterson, he sticks out to me as the one player listed who i'm unsure about, because i haven't had enough time to evaluate his worth on this particular team. i do like him, and i like his familiarity with demarcus, but it seems to me that you keep either thompson or patterson if the goal is to put a defensive presence next to DMC in the frontcourt (and i believe it should be). i may be more inclined to keep patterson, because both he and thompson are role players who understand how to stick to their roles, and perhaps it's just time to move on from jason thompson, shed some of the hangover from these down years. he has value around the league, and could make for a sturdy trade asset. so if i revise my initial thinking and replace thompson with patterson, the lineup looks like this:
PG __________
SG tyreke evans
SF __________
PF __________
C demarcus cousins
bench:
PG isaiah thomas or jimmer fredette, __________
SG __________, toney douglas
SF __________, __________
PF patrick patterson, __________
C __________, cole aldrich
there's a lot of room for overhaul here, which would satisfy new ownership's likely desire to clean house, but you still retain your building blocks, as well as a few useful roleplayers. and if you can't come up with the right kind of PF to start alongside demarcus, then patterson becomes your starter in the interim. there are certainly worse scenarios than that...
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
You've got your Petrievision glasses on -- our last two draft picks have been busts. That was never the future. At least not a bright one.
Now Beno/Reke/Leonard/Drummond/Cousins would have been pretty hot, with Thompson, Dalembert, Thornton and Thomas off the bench, but hey, spilled milk and all that.
btw the minimalist reading is:
Reke
Cousins
the usefulist reading is:
Reke
Cousins
Thompson/Patterson
the all aboard reading is:
C- Cousins/???/Aldrich
PF-Thompson/Patterson
SF-????/????
SG- Evans/????
PG-????/Thomas/Douglas
Gotta beleive anybody coming in is going to replace at least 2 of the 5 starters though, and the coach. That's pretty much bare minimum on new regime turning over a new leaf stuff.
With no institutional memory after the changeover I don't know if Jason is going to survive the turnover though. Patterson is a useful stretch 4 off the bench, and kind of has an outsized rep...although maybe only to the currentregime, not sure. Minorly known nationally, although Rockets fans seem mostly glad to be rid of him. In any case, we need a big bad defensive shotblocker up front, and everybody but the current regime knows that. So when it comes time to do that you have Cousins as a starter, you will want to add big bad shotblocker, but if you do, there really is not enough minutes to justify both Thompson and Patterson unless the big bad shotblocker comes in the draft and is going to have to serve his rookie apprenticeship. Otherwise losing Jason's contract, and combining it with that pick for instance might shake loose something interesting.
HereWeBoogie
Hall of Famer
Aldrich has as many votes as Isaiah HAHA
Cousins and Evans are the building blocks. Everyone else is expendable. Thompson and Thornton I would offer up in trades because they're both valuable players who might be able to get us another building block. Thomas is an interesting case. I don't think he has to go, but we do need to find a coach who can harness his aggressiveness and apply it in a more constructive way. I'd consider trading him for a player that was a better fit. Jimmer is always going to have value as a shooter. I'd decide based on the draft what our guard depth looks like. Same with Patterson at PF. Salmons is a decent backup but not at his current salary. I would amnesty him to open up more salary cap flexibility. Hayes and Outlaw aren't going anywhere unless we buy them out.
HndsmCelt
Hall of Famer
Oh I get it believe me. If it were up to me at the end of the season there would be a parking lot sale and the only three players that would NOT have a price tag around their neck would be Cousins, Evans, and Thomson. IF the owners insisted on keeping a fan favorite in order to keep up ticket sales I might keep IT or Jimmer for the bench and which one it wold be changes in my mind every day.
ParniValjak
All-Star
Despite big agenda being driven by a few never made a mistake in my life posters, its preety clear that majority of posters see Cousins-Reke-JT as the core with Patterson as a reasonably distant 4th! Despite being most vocal, the anti Cousins, anti Reke and the pro IT and pro Jimmer fans are clearly a significant minority in all this!
Amazing how the significant minority can always seem to make so much noise
I agree with the core you have there.Similar threads
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