Who is Beno?

[kupman]

So who is the “real” Beno. I know that it seems like a bit if a rhetorical question. I ask it because I think everyone here has written him off – and that may include me. However, it may be pre-mature. The first season that he was here he played pretty well. Last season was abysmal. The stats from the two years look pretty much the same, but those can be deceiving.

If Beno plays like he did his first year people may think much differently about the Beno situation. It may go from, “how do we get rid of this guy and his contract,” to “hey, this guy can service the PG position really well for 20 minutes/night.”

But I don’t know. It is the “Tale of Two Beno’s.” Which Beno will show-up next year?

 

[kingsnation]

I'm fine with Beno the backup.

 

[beb0p]

Beno relies on his teammates more than the other way around. So for Beno to be effective, he needs his teammates to step up, imo.

When we had Artest, Martin, and Miller; Beno was happy and effective as the beneficiary of the defensive attention drifting away from him. With Hawes, JT, and Garcia; Beno has to do more work and therefore less effective. In a way, you can't fault Beno for blaming his teammates because his play relies on their play. I re-watched some of the late season games and one thing I noticed on the second go-around is how awful our bigs are at setting screens. Without good screens, Beno couldn't get free and the offense was stagnate.

That's not to say Beno isn't at fault for having a poor season. I think he is what he is, a mediocore guard who feeds off of better players. I also notice how his performance is tied to Brad Miller's performance. When Brad was out, Beno sucked. When Brad had good games, usually Beno had good games and vice versa. I think it's because Miller set good screens and when he's knocking down the jumpers it open things up for Beno. It can also mean that Udrich is not a good fit for a young team that has a lot of enthusiasm but none of Miller's veteran savy.

 

[PurpleHaze]

When Beno Udrih arrived Kings had exactly zero PG's on their roster having just cut Orien Greene - the starter Meanwhile, they had been inserting Francisco Garcia as a desperate stop gap move. Udrih did a remarkable job, considering he had no training camp, was coming off an injury and knew nothing about his new Sacramento teammates and coaches.

Last season it was different, but how different? His head coach who he was finally establishing some mutual respect with was fired less than a third of the way in. Replaced by a coach who basically threw up his hands mid-season saying that maybe neither he nor Beno had much of a clue, were really on the same page - but #19 just needed to play without over-thinking the situation.

Beno gets blamed way too much IMO for last seasons monumental debacle. Yes, he was part of it but the total collapse into oblivion was much deeper than one single player over those 82 dreary games.

 

[Kings Faithful]

Yeah, I think losing alot of our impact players has really hurt Beno because, sadly enough, he instantly became one of our main threats(?) on the team... aside from that though...dude completely lost his 3 point shooting last year. I don't know what was up with that but he seemed fine 2 years ago, but last year was some of the worst 3 point shooting ive ever seen from any one player.

 

[Kings Faithful]

When Beno Udrih arrived Kings had exactly zero PG's on their roster having just cut Orien Greene - the starter Meanwhile, they had been inserting Francisco Garcia as a desperate stop gap move. Udrih did a remarkable, job considering he had no training camp, was coming off an injury and knew nothing about his new Sacramento teammates and coaches.

Last season it was different, but how different? His head coach who he was finally establishing some mutual respect with was fired less than a third of the way in. Replaced by a coach who basically threw up his hands mid-season saying that maybe neither he nor Beno had much of a clue, were really on the same page - but #19 just needed to play without over-thinking the situation.

Beno gets blamed way too much IMO for last seasons monumental debacle. Yes, he was part of it but the total collapse into oblivion was much deeper than one single player over those 82 dreary games.

I agree.

 

[iowamcnabb]

He is talented player and would be good in a 15 minute role. He can put up points in a hurry and could end up being a nice piece for us as a reserve guard. The downside with him is injuries and childish antics from time to time. We should know exactly who he is by the allstar break

 

[Gtronic]

Beno Highlights -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jBdHB2h5Ks

enjoy

 

[OptimusRhyme]

Beno needs to be a better three point threat. He just didnt cut it from three point land last year. I hope going against Tyreke and Rodriguez Everyday will knock some fire back into Beno, He does have the skill to be our backup PG.

 

[PurpleHaze]

I too hope Beno can be more effective from the 3 pt line this upcoming season, but I think his mid-range game will always be where he scores most consistently. The fact that he's a "lefty" makes him a bit deceptive when driving the painted area or just beyond. His quick pull up in there or dishes to open teammates is where he's most effective on the offensive end for the Kings.

 

[DocHolliday]

Beno needs to be a better three point threat. He just didnt cut it from three point land last year. I hope going against Tyreke and Rodriguez Everyday will knock some fire back into Beno, He does have the skill to be our backup PG.

Proof that a highlight video can make anyone look good.

 

[ParniValjak]

The problem with Beno is not that he is a crap player that should never see the court. I think he is a very very good back up PG who can fill in as a starter if injuries strike. I think thats the role where he does his best work.

The problem here is that he is getting paid much more than what a very good back up PG should be getting. He is almost getting a quality starter money. His production in best case doesn't warrant the contract that he has. Thats why he is very hard to move. You can't afford to pay your back up PG $6million + per season. That contract is a killer for the role he performs well.

Despite being a very good back up PG, if we have a chance to shed that contract we should jump at it 100mph.

 

[OptimusRhyme]

Proof that a highlight video can make anyone look good.

Im not basing my opinion on that highlight video im basing it on the 82 games i watched last year. and the year before.

 

[sniperfor3]

What would be the best nickname for Beno Udrih

I know that people are calling him Tasmanian Slovenian and Beno. But what would you choose, to be his nickname. He had this terrible season, but he is not the only Sacramento king. The next season will be very hard to him and what is the better way to improve the player than giving him the best nickname.
The thing is that Beno will have very big competition on his PG place. He will need some trust from sacramento kings fans. And I know that he can get better. But one thing is true. He can play better when he is playing with better basketball players. When Miller was in Sacramento, Udrih had this awesome thing going on with pick n roll and Millers pick n pop. They were awesome in that basketball element. But now when Miller is gone and Spence took his palce everything stopped for Beno.
I guess I wanna say, that we get some Sacbee reporters fired, because of their badmouthing about Beno. He is good, we all know that. I even came from Slovenia to Sacramento to see how he will play against his former team. And It was awesome to see him play. I expected 20 points but he totally surprised me with his skills. HE IS GOOD, REMEMBER THAT. JUST DONT PUSH HIM WITH MEDIA STUFF, THAT KILLED A LOT OFF GOOD PLAYERS.

 

[Aenadin]

Beno needs motivation and a good coach who can handle him... i mean your talking about a guy who lost his playing time to Jaque Vaughn.. Pop gave up on him and we all know how pop is about discipline and stuff...

he just needs to find that drive and hunger... i love how he matches up well with tony parker though... didnt he have a ton of steals when they matched up..

 

[VF21]

I know that people are calling him Tasmanian Slovenian and Beno. But what would you choose, to be his nickname. He had this terrible season, but he is not the only Sacramento king. The next season will be very hard to him and what is the better way to improve the player than giving him the best nickname.
The thing is that Beno will have very big competition on his PG place. He will need some trust from sacramento kings fans. And I know that he can get better. But one thing is true. He can play better when he is playing with better basketball players. When Miller was in Sacramento, Udrih had this awesome thing going on with pick n roll and Millers pick n pop. They were awesome in that basketball element. But now when Miller is gone and Spence took his palce everything stopped for Beno.
I guess I wanna say, that we get some Sacbee reporters fired, because of their badmouthing about Beno. He is good, we all know that. I even came from Slovenia to Sacramento to see how he will play against his former team. And It was awesome to see him play. I expected 20 points but he totally surprised me with his skills. HE IS GOOD, REMEMBER THAT. JUST DONT PUSH HIM WITH MEDIA STUFF, THAT KILLED A LOT OFF GOOD PLAYERS.

I mean you no offense whatsoever but NO Bee reporters were ever fired for badmouthing Beno Udrih. NONE. EVER. And the idea they should be is just silly.

It is universal that people will support their local favorites, and we truly understand your passion for Beno. But you are viewing it personally and most of us are seeing it totally different. We're about the name on the front of the jersey - SACRAMENTO KINGS - first and the name on the back, in this case "UDRIH" second.

We had a lot of hopes for Beno when he first arrived. We still have those hopes as long as he's in the uniform of our Kings, but we're not going to withhold criticism or opinions. That's what a message board is all about.

BENO is the captain of his fate. He needs to quit pointing the finger of blame at others when things go wrong, whether it's their fault or not. He needs to really work on reducing turnovers and not worry about the other players on the team.

I like Beno, always have. I think he can be an important part of the Kings in the coming season. He's being paid an incredible amount of money to do just one thing - play basketball. I want him to give it 100% every time he's on the court. If he does that, he'll have my support.

It's easy to point a finger at the media, but in this case I think Beno needs to be pointing a finger at the face in the mirror a little more. It's up to him. And again, no one at the Sacramento Bee was fired for badmouthing Beno or any other player. If Beno can't stand some criticism, maybe he should take up something less stressful - of course, he'd have to give back that BIG bucket of cash he's happily taking to the bank. Media pressure comes with the territory. And, for the record? The Bee has actually been pretty easy on Beno. You should have seen what they did to Chris Webber - and his jersey now hangs in the rafters at Arco.

 

[Showtime]

Beno just had horrible decision making last season. He would continually drive into the lane (one of his biggest assets along with his midrang jumper), but then get in the air, only to have no options left and throw a blind pass that was way off. He would often dump it off to nobody and create a turnover. He needs to learn to keep his dribble if a play doesn't open up, and use his midrange game more because he has the tools, just not the judgment. People say he's a bad defender, but he has proven to be able to stay in front of his man. IMO, he would be a good backup PG if he focused more.

 

[VF21]

Beno just had horrible decision making last season. He would continually drive into the lane (one of his biggest assets along with his midrang jumper), but then get in the air, only to have no options left and throw a blind pass that was way off. He would often dump it off to nobody and create a turnover. He needs to learn to keep his dribble if a play doesn't open up, and use his midrange game more because he has the tools, just not the judgment. People say he's a bad defender, but he has proven to be able to stay in front of his man. IMO, he would be a good backup PG if he focused more.

In four words, I think you just summed up 99.9% of Udrih's problem.

 

[rainmaker]

I know that people are calling him Tasmanian Slovenian and Beno. But what would you choose, to be his nickname. He had this terrible season, but he is not the only Sacramento king. The next season will be very hard to him and what is the better way to improve the player than giving him the best nickname.
The thing is that Beno will have very big competition on his PG place. He will need some trust from sacramento kings fans. And I know that he can get better. But one thing is true. He can play better when he is playing with better basketball players. When Miller was in Sacramento, Udrih had this awesome thing going on with pick n roll and Millers pick n pop. They were awesome in that basketball element. But now when Miller is gone and Spence took his palce everything stopped for Beno.
I guess I wanna say, that we get some Sacbee reporters fired, because of their badmouthing about Beno. He is good, we all know that. I even came from Slovenia to Sacramento to see how he will play against his former team. And It was awesome to see him play. I expected 20 points but he totally surprised me with his skills. HE IS GOOD, REMEMBER THAT. JUST DONT PUSH HIM WITH MEDIA STUFF, THAT KILLED A LOT OFF GOOD PLAYERS.

I honestly have no idea what your point is.

One, giving Beno, or any player another nickname has ZERO bearing on how they perform on the court. But how about this one-the soft, lazy, underperforming slovenian who I don't want on this team

Two, the Beno/Miller pick and roll was decent at best. It worked sometimes, but we weren't beating any teams with it, and its not something we successfully turned to in the 4th qrtr.

Three, pro athletes should not pay attention to what the media or fans say to the point that it effects their performance. But in reality, I don't think the fans or the media had anything to do with Beno's terrible season. It was just that, a terrible season, and he never showed up or competed from the start of training camp.

I don't want anyone in this team that is so soft mentally that they turn to the media or fans for support and confidence. Their job is to perform, and if they do, and put forth a good amount of effort, the media and fans will support that player.

But I don't think any of that was beno's problem. I think his problem is his work ethic, which has been questioned since he first came into the league. He showed up out of shape last year after signing the biggest contract of his career. This is disrespectfull to his teammates, the fans, and the organization. He never took responsibility for his poor play, and repeatedly blamed his teammates. Beno has no one to blame but himself as far as I'm concerned. I can live with him not making open shots, and the occasional turnover, but I can't live with his lack of effort, which we saw far to often.

 

[D13]

The Beno bashing is tiering... Most of us admit he has talent, and he's still relatively young with potential.

This apparent hate is all over a mediocre injury filled year with his last place team who killed every players motivation when they fired their 3rd coach in 3yrs and let an assistant finish the season...

I believe Beno can be an asset with good coaching, and earn his contract. Let's support our team and it's players when they need us most... Beno may just have his best years ahead of him.

 

[Arby's Roast Beef]

Beno just doesn't have any one standout trait, and that's why I've been thinking he's a fringe starter/backup for a while. He does have some things that can make him a part time starter--he does try and diversify his offense, he has good height for the position and he's still relatively young, but he hasn't really improved much since he came into the league.

One thing I really hate about is game, as comprised, is that he really cut down the three point attempts when he joined us in '07--granted he's been extremely streaky from there (he's shot between 25-42% from his time in Europe to now), but most PGs who can't bull their way into the lane should keep this as at least a decent part of their arsenal. He can shoot it, I just wish he'd give himself the green light more to at least gain some confidence from there. To his credit, he's good at nailing mid-range J's and can finish after getting an opening, but because he doesn't get to the line well or shoot too many threes, he's just not as efficient as he could be.

Beno's passing ability is in line with combo guards in the league, so while he does have court vision he looks to score first. He's quite turnover prone for a PG as well. Defense ranges from inept to unexceptional depending on motivation level/matchups, and his work ethic in general has to in question with his lack of improvement and his tendency to tune out/consistency at times.

So between all that, I really would look to trade him--no matter what he does, I don't think he's going to be worth his (toxic) salary, and he's figured out--he is what he is, and with his work ethic I don't think he's likely to be on an upswing. I think some playoff teams would appreciate a stopgap backup (he can be useful in that role), so it shouldn't be too hard.

 

[kennadog]

The Beno bashing is tiering... Most of us admit he has talent, and he's still relatively young with potential.

This apparent hate is all over a mediocre injury filled year with his last place team who killed every players motivation when they fired their 3rd coach in 3yrs and let an assistant finish the season...

I believe Beno can be an asset with good coaching, and earn his contract. Let's support our team and it's players when they need us most... Beno may just have his best years ahead of him.

Sorry, but Beno had Popovich for his coach. It doesn't get better than that. The knock on him in San Antonio is that he was lazy, had no work ethic. I haven't seen anything since, that makes me think that's changed mcuh. I also don't like the finger that is always pointing away from himself. In my mind, he's a back-up PG, at the best.

 

[Jerryaki]

Let's support our team and it's players when they need us most... Beno may just have his best years ahead of him.

kind of tough to do when said player plays with a visible lack of passion and also doesn't take responsibility for his poor play. if a player sucks and also has a crappy attitude, i'm not supporting him, especially when he's stealing money from the franchise through an atrocious midlevel deal.

 

[kennadog]

Although I just knocked Beno above, I'll support him as long as he's wearing a Kings jersey and hope for the best. If he doesn't do well, that's my team for whom he's not doing well.

 

[Jerryaki]

years of declining quality, cohesion, and passion from the team has left me more discerning than i once was. i'll still love the team as we all do, but won't do so for just anyone wearing the jersey anymore.

 

[Kingster]

Who is Beno? He's the third string point guard for the Sacramento Kings next year, unless he plays better than he's ever played in his NBA career.

 

[OptimusRhyme]

Who is Beno? He's the third string point guard for the Sacramento Kings next year, unless he plays better than he's ever played in his NBA career.

Do you think Evans will start at PG form day one? I sure hope so. That'll send Beno the biggest message.

 

[KingsFan4Life_2323]

Beno is.......

The first player who played significant minutes for us last season to not play significant minutes for us this season.

I agree with a lot who say he is a good back up player, but thats as far as it should go. He is only a back up, and nothing more. If we keep him solely to back up another player, I will be a happy Kings fan. However, if Westphal sees the need to start the guy, I will be a pissed off individual...

I hope we have a good year this upcoming season in terms of showing fans and the rest of the team how much potential we actually have, because I believe we do have a lot of potential, but its up to the men to show up on the basketball court and show us fans, the coaching staff, the rest of the nba, and above all themselves that they do have potential.

My thoughts.....

SP Out!

 

[LWP777]

Beno is a great guy and has a lot of talent but here are his issues:

1. He doesn't play hurt
2. He doesn't have the "drive" that good NBA players have
3. He doesn't practice well

This is the reason Pop dumped him when he was with the Spurs. Pop is way too smart to let a talented point guard go but there was just too much baggage with Beno. Pop can't deal with the 3 things above, especially 2 and 3.

 

[bibbinator]

Yeah, but if you don't play Beno you can't trade him. He'll get minutes if only for that. He's contracted with the Kings till the 11-12 season. Keep playing him and he'll have a hot streak some time that will create trade interest.