IDK but i'm with SVG on this. why does it take a whole hour to say which team you choose? this is truly a mockery. i was always a fan of LBJ and to an extent...even now. i just think he used poor judgement in allowing it to become such a circus event. i just hope that this is a complete fail. not because i wish anything bad on LBJ, but because i don't want to see this become the norm in NBA free agency to come. i don't know about you, but how many 1 hour specials are you really willing to watch just to see who's going to what team? buuuuuuut............it would be really nice to see Kobe and company lose to Lebron and company. Kobe does not deserve to win ring #6.....that's all i'm saying.
Who else is sick of everything revolving around LeBron!?..
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for those who arent sick of everything revolving around lebron. realgm says sources have him leaning towards miami
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/67957/20100708/report_lebron_leaning_towards_miami_heat/
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/67957/20100708/report_lebron_leaning_towards_miami_heat/
At least those other teams made trades for the additional stars. The whole "let's pick a city to meet up" thing is lame. Wanting a good supporting cast is one thing, but choosing to go where two other superstars went first comes off weak and insecure when you're supposed to be the #1 guy in the league.
i mentioned pierce because the celtic's were considered "his team" just as the heat are d-wade's. but my point was garnett couldnt do it by himself in minny and pierce couldnt do it in boston. lakers were barely a playoff team with just kobe after shaq left and like u said, gasol was the spanish SAR. but once they teamed up, they won rings. thats exactly why i dont blame lebron if he goes to the heat. most of the teams that were champions/contenders were stacked with at least 2 all star calibur players. even in the past michael had scottie and magic had kareem. i see them as teaming up not riding coattails
if i remember correctly garnett had a trade clause or refused to be traded to certain teams. i believe earlier he refused to go to boston. so in a way he chose his team. plus i dont see a big difference in trading for a player vs trading for cap room to sign a player. and lakers didnt "trade" for gasol, he was handed to them on a silver platter for 4 pennies and a button
if i remember correctly garnett had a trade clause or refused to be traded to certain teams. i believe earlier he refused to go to boston. so in a way he chose his team. plus i dont see a big difference in trading for a player vs trading for cap room to sign a player. and lakers didnt "trade" for gasol, he was handed to them on a silver platter for 4 pennies and a button
I feel the same way except for the one hour ESPN thingy. If there's money to be made, you take it.
About the ESPN thing...
“Due to the unprecedented attention and interest surrounding LeBron’s decision, we have decided to make this announcement on national television. By doing so we have generated funds that will be given to the Boys and Girls Clubs of America. LeBron has a longstanding commitment to giving back to the community, and has worked with the Boys and Girls Clubs in cities across the country. For additional information and any other announcements concerning “The Decision,” check with www.LebronJames.com.”
About the ESPN thing...
“Due to the unprecedented attention and interest surrounding LeBron’s decision, we have decided to make this announcement on national television. By doing so we have generated funds that will be given to the Boys and Girls Clubs of America. LeBron has a longstanding commitment to giving back to the community, and has worked with the Boys and Girls Clubs in cities across the country. For additional information and any other announcements concerning “The Decision,” check with www.LebronJames.com.”
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I now welcome the LeBron madness.the thing is that the kings are still a few years away from being contenders. when we were one of the worse teams in the nba, all we had was the draft and regular season. i was happy when i saw something like the big 3 put together that could actually beat the lakers. my thought was if the kings are out of it, my playoffs consisted of cheering for whoever could beat the lakers. and if lebron/dwade/bosh can do it for the next few years while the kings rebuild, im all for it.
Ugh...
http://realgm.com/src_feature_pieces/943/20100708/grading_the_deal_lebron_*picks*_the_heat/
They're all saying that there will be the biggest three ever in Miami. They will have 5 players under contract, and that alone will have them approaching the cap. As far as PG's, well... J-Will (the only reasonable fit I can think of) wants more than the minimum and these three planet sized egos have to share the ball, what seasoned vet runs the show?
Also: who's the alpha dog in that situation between Wade and James? I don't think James would like to be #2, but I easily see him slipping to Wade's second fiddle.
http://realgm.com/src_feature_pieces/943/20100708/grading_the_deal_lebron_*picks*_the_heat/
They're all saying that there will be the biggest three ever in Miami. They will have 5 players under contract, and that alone will have them approaching the cap. As far as PG's, well... J-Will (the only reasonable fit I can think of) wants more than the minimum and these three planet sized egos have to share the ball, what seasoned vet runs the show?
Also: who's the alpha dog in that situation between Wade and James? I don't think James would like to be #2, but I easily see him slipping to Wade's second fiddle.
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I completely believe that Wade did engineer the whole thing. All the videos and articles I've seen makes it look like Bosh is following Wade around through the free agency process because Wade is the "cool kid", like Van Gundy said Bosh was like Wade's little lapdog. That along with the "Chicago has no loyalty" statements really lead me to believe that Wade has been trashing the Bulls organization (probably the best fit for Bosh) for months. With Bosh and Wade there, Lebron probably felt like going to Miami was the only way to get guaranteed championships.
http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/67981/20100708/heat_offer_mike_miller_five_year_deal/
How is this possible? I thought they could only offer the vet minimum to players if all 3 players signed? Or are they taking more of a pay cut than what we think? Can someone clear this up?
How is this possible? I thought they could only offer the vet minimum to players if all 3 players signed? Or are they taking more of a pay cut than what we think? Can someone clear this up?
So what players get into the mix?
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/183/is-9-p-m-edt-the-new-greenwich-mean-time
First the math: Beasley, Anthony, Jones and Chalmers take up a combined $8.4 million of cap room, but only three roster spots (Jones counts against the cap but not on the roster).
Wade, James and Bosh would take up three more roster spots, so the Heat would have to carry six phantoms, whose salary cap holds would add up to nearly $2.9 million. That accounts for $11.3 million in committed salary, leaving the Heat with $46.8 million in room beneath the new salary cap figure of $58,044,000.
If you divide $46.8 million by three (assuming Wade, Bosh and James would all take equal salaries), it comes out to $15.56 million apiece -- $1 million less than the max salary that all three superstars are eligible to receive. Since Florida does not have state income tax, the $15.56 million that James would be taking from Miami would be roughly equivalent in post-tax dollars to the $16.56 million the Knicks (or the Nets, Bulls, Cavs and Clippers) could pay him under a max contract.
Miami would then have to fill out its roster, going over the salary cap with seven players on minimum salaries to reach the NBA's minimum roster size of 13. Miami selected three players in the second round of last month's draft: Texas center Dexter Pittman, Mississippi State PF Jarvis Varnado and West Virginia small forward DaSean Butler. The Heat also hold the rights to 2009 2nd round pick Patrick Beverly, who spent last season with Olympiacos of Greece and is on the Heat's summer league roster. If they re-signed Jones (after signing Wade/James/Bosh) at the veteran minimum salary for a player with seven years of experience ($1.146 million), Jones would make up the money he forfeited in his buyout, and the Heat would have a shooter.
(Back to me)
So what kind of Roster
C Joel Anthony, Dexter Pittman
PF Bosh, Beasley,Jarvis Varnado
SF LeBron, James Jones,Desean Butler
SG Wade
pg Mario chalmers,Patrick Beverly
So there is 11 players plus 2 more Vets at the min?
So you rotate Bosh, Beasley,Anthony
Lebron,Wade,Jones
Vet PG who wants a ring, Chalmers
Plus 4 rookies at 4 positions?
Wow just Wow!!!
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/183/is-9-p-m-edt-the-new-greenwich-mean-time
First the math: Beasley, Anthony, Jones and Chalmers take up a combined $8.4 million of cap room, but only three roster spots (Jones counts against the cap but not on the roster).
Wade, James and Bosh would take up three more roster spots, so the Heat would have to carry six phantoms, whose salary cap holds would add up to nearly $2.9 million. That accounts for $11.3 million in committed salary, leaving the Heat with $46.8 million in room beneath the new salary cap figure of $58,044,000.
If you divide $46.8 million by three (assuming Wade, Bosh and James would all take equal salaries), it comes out to $15.56 million apiece -- $1 million less than the max salary that all three superstars are eligible to receive. Since Florida does not have state income tax, the $15.56 million that James would be taking from Miami would be roughly equivalent in post-tax dollars to the $16.56 million the Knicks (or the Nets, Bulls, Cavs and Clippers) could pay him under a max contract.
Miami would then have to fill out its roster, going over the salary cap with seven players on minimum salaries to reach the NBA's minimum roster size of 13. Miami selected three players in the second round of last month's draft: Texas center Dexter Pittman, Mississippi State PF Jarvis Varnado and West Virginia small forward DaSean Butler. The Heat also hold the rights to 2009 2nd round pick Patrick Beverly, who spent last season with Olympiacos of Greece and is on the Heat's summer league roster. If they re-signed Jones (after signing Wade/James/Bosh) at the veteran minimum salary for a player with seven years of experience ($1.146 million), Jones would make up the money he forfeited in his buyout, and the Heat would have a shooter.
(Back to me)
So what kind of Roster
C Joel Anthony, Dexter Pittman
PF Bosh, Beasley,Jarvis Varnado
SF LeBron, James Jones,Desean Butler
SG Wade
pg Mario chalmers,Patrick Beverly
So there is 11 players plus 2 more Vets at the min?
So you rotate Bosh, Beasley,Anthony
Lebron,Wade,Jones
Vet PG who wants a ring, Chalmers
Plus 4 rookies at 4 positions?
Wow just Wow!!!
Bosh/Pau is a wash. Bynum is overrated, and has yet to be healthy in June. He gives them 15 good games a year. No need to worry about Bynum. Wade+Lebron > Kobe. They'd need Artest and Odom to play good defense and score consistently. The Lakers would have the coaching edge and the chemistry edge, but I'd give the Heat the edge on talent.