Which of these players gets traded before the deadline?

[HereWeBoogie]

As long as Cousins and Evans remain, I couldn't care less if anyone else get traded

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[VF21]

You simply have to be delusional/insane/lobotomized.

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[panda]

Personally, I'd rather they trade Thomas for Tyler Hansbough. Not sure what the salary differences are, but Tyler has a nice shot and is a good rebounder for the Pacers. Unfortunately he wouldn't address the lack of passing on the Kings or provide veteran leadership for Cousins. Is Luke Walton still with the Cavs? Maybe some sort of 3 way to jettison Outlaw and Hayes as well as Thomas.

*edit* Giving Garcia some minutes would help the passing

 

[Tetsujin]

Personally, I'd rather they trade Thomas for Tyler Hansbough. Not sure what the salary differences are, but Tyler has a nice shot and is a good rebounder for the Pacers. Unfortunately he wouldn't address the lack of passing on the Kings or provide veteran leadership for Cousins. Is Luke Walton still with the Cavs? Maybe some sort of 3 way to jettison Outlaw and Hayes as well as Thomas.

*edit* Giving Garcia some minutes would help the passing

Any post advocating acquiring Luke Walton (he of LWVC Award fame) will not be taken seriously by me.

 

[twslam07]

Of those mentioned, I'd think IT is the likely choice, but who knows? All depends on what you want, and what the other team wants in return. Lets be honest, there simply isn't a great demand for 5'9" PG's. And I'm not trying to be critical of IT. I just don't think that good teams sit around and say to themselves, man, you know what, if we could just aquire I. Thomas from the Kings we'd be over the hump. I'm sure that IT is well recieved around the league, but he's more than likely thought of as a backup PG.

The bigger question is, how is Tyreke being percieved by Kings management now. Are they looking at him as a keeper as part of the foundation of the Kings, or as someone they can get a good return on in a trade. I hope its the former, but I really have no idea. I think Cousins is untouchable, and the only other player that might have significant trade value is Thornton. Unfortunately, I think we fans overvalue Thornton as compared to the rest of the league. Thornton is an undersized SG who is a streak shooter. His shooting percentage was lacking last year, and its lacking this year. His defense while respectable, is nothing to write home about. He probably has more value to us, then to another team.

I think we do overvalue Thornton. I know I have in some of the trades I propose. I'm starting to think he has as much value as J. Crawford. Possibly less.

 

[twslam07]

What trade do you think they would take? I don't see any. Maybe Varejao for Evans and Cousins, though even this trade is projected to make them worse by 3 losses (not that I think the Trade Machine projection means much).

It would be difficult for us to trade with the Cavs because they have talented and young guys at every position. Irving, Waiters, Gee, Thompson, Varejao/Zeller.

SF would probably be their biggest concern, but unfortunately, SF is our biggest concern as well. The only thing that Cleveland would be truly interested in would be our pick. If we change the terms of our pick with them and make it unprotected, then we might be on to something. I might be intrigued by a Thornton and unprotected 1st for Varejao, but it might take a Thornton, Robinson, unproctected 1st package to pry varejao away.

 

[Gary]

Personally, I think anyone on the team could be traded if the right deal came along. I have a feeling our higher profile players will be shopped but we will end up trading one of our bench guards when it's all done.

I would LOVE if we could snag Mullens from Charlotte. He's been someone I had watched since he was in high school and he's one of those players that ould be pretty good in this league if given a good chance. Not star material but VERY solid, like a rich man's JT. And having 2 JTs on the team is not bad at all with their work ethic.

 

[hrdboild]

Personally, I think anyone on the team could be traded if the right deal came along. I have a feeling our higher profile players will be shopped but we will end up trading one of our bench guards when it's all done.

I would LOVE if we could snag Mullens from Charlotte. He's been someone I had watched since he was in high school and he's one of those players that ould be pretty good in this league if given a good chance. Not star material but VERY solid, like a rich man's JT. And having 2 JTs on the team is not bad at all with their work ethic.

Mullens will be a restricted free agent at the end of the season, but Charlotte is actually winning for the first time in forever and he's a big reason why. You have to figure they're going to match whatever offer he gets, even if it means overpaying. He's a good young player though. We could certainly use a guy like that, but I don't think it makes sense to have Cousins, JT, Robinson, and Mullens on the same roster. If you pay Mullens you're paying him to play. Maybe if we end up trading JT he's someone we could look into, though like I said, Charlotte would be dumb not to match.

 

[Tetsujin]

Mullens will be a restricted free agent at the end of the season, but Charlotte is actually winning for the first time in forever and he's a big reason why. You have to figure they're going to match whatever offer he gets, even if it means overpaying. He's a good young player though. We could certainly use a guy like that, but I don't think it makes sense to have Cousins, JT, Robinson, and Mullens on the same roster. If you pay Mullens you're paying him to play. Maybe if we end up trading JT he's someone we could look into, though like I said, Charlotte would be dumb not to match.

If by winning, you mean having a record that's only one game better than ours, then yes they are winning.

 

[Bricklayer]

Indeed, I have long thought that damn! If we could just replace one of our 55% shooting roleplaying PFs with a 38% shooting 7 footer off a bad team, we'd be set man.

 

[hrdboild]

If by winning, you mean having a record that's only one game better than ours, then yes they are winning.

Hey, it's all relative man. When you're coming off one of the worst seasons in NBA history, that constitutes winning. They already have as many wins after 18 games as they had all last season.

 

[Gary]

If by winning, you mean having a record that's only one game better than ours, then yes they are winning.

They started 7-4 I believe but they have lost 6 in a row. I didn't think they would be a great team, but I knew Mullens could be a good player in the league if given the chance. He's a smart player.

The thing I want though is to trade small for big. We do not need anymore guards. If it means we don't get equal value then so be it. Usually in a "small for big" trade you don't get equal value anyway.

 

[Tetsujin]

They started 7-4 I believe but they have lost 6 in a row. I didn't think they would be a great team, but I knew Mullens could be a good player in the league if given the chance. He's a smart player.

The thing I want though is to trade small for big. We do not need anymore guards. If it means we don't get equal value then so be it. Usually in a "small for big" trade you don't get equal value anyway.

We've gotta be careful about gettign bigs too because we can't afford getting another 6'9" tweener 4.

 

[Gilles]

Personally, I think anyone on the team could be traded if the right deal came along. I have a feeling our higher profile players will be shopped but we will end up trading one of our bench guards when it's all done.

I would LOVE if we could snag Mullens from Charlotte. He's been someone I had watched since he was in high school and he's one of those players that ould be pretty good in this league if given a good chance. Not star material but VERY solid, like a rich man's JT. And having 2 JTs on the team is not bad at all with their work ethic.

You want to trade Boogie and Reke, and salivate over Mullens? You sure know this stuff.

 

[Tetsujin]

You want to trade Boogie and Reke, and salivate over Mullens? You sure know this stuff.

To be fair, Reke is totally the worst player ever.

 

[Gary]

You want to trade Boogie and Reke, and salivate over Mullens? You sure know this stuff.

mmm hmmm..

I never said I salivate over Mullens. He's a smart player, and I have watched him since High school. I also said I don't think he's an all star either but I believe he could be a great role player.

Nice attempt at an insult though.. swwwwing and a miss.

 

[Gary]

To be fair, Reke is totally the worst player ever.

Why do you have to turn this thread into Reke hating thread. Get over it numnut.

 

[Gary]

We've gotta be careful about gettign bigs too because we can't afford getting another 6'9" tweener 4.

Wasn't talking about a 6'9 big but we do need to trade a guard and I do believe that Petrie will be shopping all of the players if the right deal comes along. We have too many guards so I can see one or two of them going by the deadline. I don't think it will be any starters however I do think they will all be shopped. It will probably end up being Thornton or IT. I don't think Brooks has enough value.

 

[Gilles]

mmm hmmm..

I never said I salivate over Mullens. He's a smart player, and I have watched him since High school. I also said I don't think he's an all star either but I believe he could be a great role player.

Nice attempt at an insult though.. swwwwing and a miss.

You wanted to trade out Reke probably before he even got to Sacramento, now you want Boogie out and all for mysterious great role players, of whom you specifically only named Mully, who never got Ortg over 100 in his career and is a below average rebounder and defender. You should wait by the phone - George Maloof is about to call with GM job offer. Don't be greedy about the salary - they are broke after all.

 

[Gary]

You wanted to trade out Reke probably before he even got to Sacramento, now you want Boogie out and all for mysterious great role players, of whom you specifically only named Mully, who never got Ortg over 100 in his career and is a below average rebounder and defender. You should wait by the phone - George Maloof is about to call with GM job offer. Don't be greedy about the salary - they are broke after all.

Sure thing Mr. RekrisbetterthanHarden. I believe that job should be yours with the ideas you have clung to over the last few years. You would take the team further down the toilet than I ever could.

Did I ever say trade Cousins for Mullie? Did I ever say trade Evans for Mullie? Did I ever say Mullie is an all star? Did I ever say Mullie is the next coming of anyone other than the guy that's most fit to be a roleplayer big on the Kings? Get your head out of your tookus, my friend. You Reke lovers love looking for any reason to pick a fight eh? Even when I wasn't even mentioning Reke. And people wonder why I talk about him so much hahaha.

 

[Gilles]

1. I'm still waiting for an explanation why you want Mullens as part of rotation outside of vague "he's smart".
2. You are putting words in my mouth. I wrote that he who should not be mentioned is better ballhandler than Harden but worse at shooting and drawing fouls, which makes him worse offensive player. Then you go the other and Reke becomes a superior one.

 

[Gary]

1. I'm still waiting for an explanation why you want Mullens as part of rotation outside of vague "he's smart".
2. You are putting words in my mouth. I wrote that he who should not be mentioned is better ballhandler than Harden but worse at shooting and drawing fouls, which makes him worse offensive player. Then you go the other and Reke becomes a superior one.

1. The context I was using is basically trading a guard for a big. If we were to get a big for one of our guards it would probably be a guy like Mullens. Basically a guy with "roleplayer" potential. Why would I want Mullens? Because I don't think we are getting an all-star forward for one of our guards, and I don't think we need another guard for a guard trade. So, thinking of bigs we could possibly get when trading a guard of ours I figured he would be a decent target. Young, has size, good offensive game, better defensively since he guards PFs now instead of Cs (although he's not considered good by any stretch he has been better on PFs). He has the potential to be a good rotation/role player which is what I would LOVE to get for IT/Thornton.

2. You had said I salivated over Mullens. You were kinda putting words in my mouth too. That's why I went there.

Now let's all be friends and have normal conversations until the next time I mention Reke.... oops...

Or as Malibu Stacy would say.. "Now let's forget our troubles with a big bowl of strawberry ice cream."

 

[hrdboild]

Oh for christs sake. Mullens has played well this year, well enough to attract attention to himself as a promising young player in the league. People who watch basketball know this. Why all this other nonsense?

 

[Gilles]

I don't think he plays that well. Kings is a bad rebounding team. Mullens does nothing to the team in this department - just replace another average to below average guy. Offensively he's just a low-peecentage chucker. There's just nothing he brings to prefer him over current not so great Kings' bigs. Getting Dalembert in some sort of 3-way is much more impactful move. Of course, you want to steal Saunders from the Bucks, but I don't think they are stupid enough to let him go.
If you don't want Dalembert, some sort of late first-early second would be a much better return for Kings mini-chuckers - not nessessarily with the idea to draft, but rather as an asset.

 

[Gary]

I don't think he plays that well. Kings is a bad rebounding team. Mullens does nothing to the team in this department - just replace another average to below average guy. Offensively he's just a low-peecentage chucker. There's just nothing he brings to prefer him over current not so great Kings' bigs. Getting Dalembert in some sort of 3-way is much more impactful move. Of course, you want to steal Saunders from the Bucks, but I don't think they are stupid enough to let him go.
If you don't want Dalembert, some sort of late first-early second would be a much better return for Kings mini-chuckers - not nessessarily with the idea to draft, but rather as an asset.

The move is to get rid of a guard and help our bigs with depth. It's actually a good move just based off that. Not to mention this draft is kind of meh. Too many average looking bigs at the top and none of them really excite me except for maybe Noel if we can play him at PF or move Cousins to PF. Mullie would be a way to get us front court depth and rid us of a player in a clogged position.

 

[bajaden]

I don't think he plays that well. Kings is a bad rebounding team. Mullens does nothing to the team in this department - just replace another average to below average guy. Offensively he's just a low-peecentage chucker. There's just nothing he brings to prefer him over current not so great Kings' bigs. Getting Dalembert in some sort of 3-way is much more impactful move. Of course, you want to steal Saunders from the Bucks, but I don't think they are stupid enough to let him go.
If you don't want Dalembert, some sort of late first-early second would be a much better return for Kings mini-chuckers - not nessessarily with the idea to draft, but rather as an asset.

Actually Mullens isn't that bad a per minute rebounder. My problem with him is that he takes too many 3pt shots for a 7 footer. However, we could do worse for a backup center. He's not my first choice but I could live with him for the right price. My perference would be to put someone next to Cuz at the PF position thats a good shotblocker and rebounder, and move JT to the backup center position. There are a few guys around the league that aren't getting a lot of minutes that might be worth asking about. As you mention, the Bucks are one of those teams with an abundance of young, and old PF's.

 

[bajaden]

The move is to get rid of a guard and help our bigs with depth. It's actually a good move just based off that. Not to mention this draft is kind of meh. Too many average looking bigs at the top and none of them really excite me except for maybe Noel if we can play him at PF or move Cousins to PF. Mullie would be a way to get us front court depth and rid us of a player in a clogged position.

Are you actualy watching any college games? Sometimes your matter of fact statements are so arrogant that I don't even know what to say. I've already watched well over 40 or 50 college games, and I'm not about to pass judgement on anyone yet. Maybe at the end of march! And Noel isn't a center. At 6'10" and 215 pounds, he get pushed all over the place trying to play center. Even at PF he needs to add serious muscle. Oh, there is one player that at the moment I want no part of, and thats Ike Austin. Unless he seriously changes his game. Actually, he reminds me of a skinny Mullens who can't rebound.

If you want a guy with some size that can come in and play defense and block shots, then take a look at Jeff Withey. He's currently leading the NCAA in blocks per game.

 

[Gilles]

He's going to get a new contract this summer. At what price do you keep him? People haven't fully realised the effects of new CBA yet. You can't afford to pay your fourth big even MLE, especially if you are Sacramento Kings, and I don't think Mullie is better than your fourth big of you are serious about anything. He's an average defensive rebounder, and one of the worst offensive rebounders in the League due to amount of time he spends outside.

 

[Gary]

Are you actualy watching any college games? Sometimes your matter of fact statements are so arrogant that I don't even know what to say. I've already watched well over 40 or 50 college games, and I'm not about to pass judgement on anyone yet. Maybe at the end of march! And Noel isn't a center. At 6'10" and 215 pounds, he get pushed all over the place trying to play center. Even at PF he needs to add serious muscle. Oh, there is one player that at the moment I want no part of, and thats Ike Austin. Unless he seriously changes his game. Actually, he reminds me of a skinny Mullens who can't rebound.

If you want a guy with some size that can come in and play defense and block shots, then take a look at Jeff Withey. He's currently leading the NCAA in blocks per game.

Really?! You ask ME if I watch college games? I live for college BBall. It's still too early, that's why I am not excited about any of them yet. I am sure as the college basketball year is into its 4th month I will be a bit more knowledgeable about who should be going at the top. Right now there are a boatload of big men and of them all Noel is the only one I have liked (as in someone to match with Cousins). Not to mention the Kentucky connection..

But really.. I am the last person you should ask that to. I might have worded things wrong, but as it stands not I am not too excited about the players in the draft as of yet. Hence the "meh". Ask me again in March. Right now the draft is a bigman fest. I would prefer to wait until shooters, and guards draft stock go up before I even think about who we should draft.

 

[Gilles]

I don't really like upcoming bigman class. Yeah, Noel is the only lottery talent who would fit well with Cousins. There are claims already that this draft is going to be worst in years even though we are only two years removed from 2011. But as a Kings' fan I see a lot of guys in the 5-10 area that warrant high pick talentwise and would be a great fit.