Where's Webber Going?

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Since C-Webb is now a free agent, I was wondering where all of you think he'll play in 07-08.

Detroit?
L.A. Lakers?
Sacramento?
Phoenix?
San Antonio?
Miami?
Houston?

I say he re-signs with the Pistons.
 
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My darkhorse = Houston.

I think he was intending to finish up in Detroit, but I'm not sure that that team is going to be kept together now, and Webb may be seen as a rental. He was actually the only thing that revitalized them during the regular season when it looked like they were done. Now I think they probably are. And if he leaves, which possibly contending team has an open starting PF spot, his old coach, and a system he knows how to run? Could play the old man Vlade role for them.
 
Bricklayer said:
My darkhorse = Houston.

I think he was intending to finish up in Detroit, but I'm not sure that that team is going to be kept together now, and Webb may be seen as a rental. He was actually the only thing that revitalized them during the regular season when it looked like they were done. Now I think they probably are. And if he leaves, which possibly contending team has an open starting PF spot, his old coach, and a system he knows how to run? Could play the old man Vlade role for them.
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While I think CWebb would certainly help on the offensive side of the ball for Houston, I just don't know if he's going to help on the defensive side of the ball. He and Yao would team to be one of the slowest frontcourt combos in the league when they are on the floor together. I watched Houston's lack of frontcourt quickness cost them multiple defensive rebounds in Game 7 of the first round this year, and I would think they would want to fix that problem going into next year by trying to get a PF that can at least attempt to defend the Carlos Boozers of the world (Chuck Hayes is too small).

It's a shame that the Pistons will probably look drastically different next year --- I think Detroit would have been a great place for CWebb to finish his career. But with that roster, since they couldn't make the NBA Finals as the Eastern Conference representative this year, it seems unlikely that they would make it next year or the following year. Every player is just getting a little older/slower, yet none of them, other than CWebb, are at the point in their careers where they shouldn't be starting and playing major minutes. If they keep the "core" together (including McDyess), then they would need to address the back-up PG position to bring in someone with some quickness, and find a back-up SF that the coaching staff trusts. They have frontcourt players to develop if Sheed/CWebb/McDyess would agree to take a reduced role.
 
Bricklayer said:
My darkhorse = Houston.

I think he was intending to finish up in Detroit, but I'm not sure that that team is going to be kept together now, and Webb may be seen as a rental. He was actually the only thing that revitalized them during the regular season when it looked like they were done. Now I think they probably are. And if he leaves, which possibly contending team has an open starting PF spot, his old coach, and a system he knows how to run? Could play the old man Vlade role for them.
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It sort of depends how things turn it in terms of the other moves they make. Right now, according to the Seattle media, they're trying to sign and trade Rashard Lewis by trading Battier and some other stuff. Assuming that happens, then we're looking for a stopgap measure for the power forward spot (because there really aren't very many on the free agent market) and I guess Webber fits that bill.

If the Lewis deal doesn't go down (and to be honest I'll assume it doesn't), then I'm assuming they're going to search for other guys first at the PF spot. They've also been looking at dealing for Chris Wilcox but I'm leery of him after the whole Stromile Swift debacle. But Webber's at the bottom of the list primarily because they want an athletic guy who can rebound and play defense, neither of which is Webber's specialty anymore.

After all, we have one washed up member of the fab five, so I'm not sure another one is really necessary. I think Antonio McDyess would be the more likely target for the Rockets. It also doesn't hurt that McDyess lives in Houston.
 
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Just like Webber opted to return to his hometown Detroit Pistons for this season, I think there's a chance Chauncey Billups now a free agent will return to his hometown - Denver. I don't know if the Nuggets can find the cap room to sign him, but I know they don't see Steve Blake as "the answer" at point guard playing along side that guy famously called "the answer." Either way, the dominoes might fall fast and furious in Detriot with Flip Saunders axed and others following via trades or free agency.

I think C-Webb is almost where Vlade was when he ended up back with the Lakers for one last go round. Sure he's got some value, but it's obvious his physical skills are quite diminished at 34 - 35 next season - and is basically a role player or around 25 minute per game starter.
 
supamari0 said:
It sort of depends how things turn it in terms of the other moves they make. Right now, according to the Seattle media, they're trying to sign and trade Rashard Lewis by trading Battier and some other stuff. Assuming that happens, then we're looking for a stopgap measure for the power forward spot (because there really aren't very many on the free agent market) and I guess Webber fits that bill.

If the Lewis deal doesn't go down (and to be honest I'll assume it doesn't), then I'm assuming they're going to search for other guys first at the PF spot. They've also been looking at dealing for Chris Wilcox but I'm leery of him after the whole Stromile Swift debacle. But Webber's at the bottom of the list primarily because they want an athletic guy who can rebound and play defense, neither of which is Webber's specialty anymore.

After all, we have one washed up member of the fab five, so I'm not sure another one is really necessary. I think Antonio McDyess would be the more likely target for the Rockets. It also doesn't hurt that McDyess lives in Houston.
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I think Houston's problem is that you have to find a way to get a starting PF and a starting PG, and you have very few assets to work with and a weak crop of FAs. Basically just the MLE, Sura's ender, and a very late pick (#26). The kids at OG I guess have some minor value. But in any case, that's not muc to work with to land two starters, let alone the mythical athletic/rebounding/shotblocking big that everybody in the league wants.

Hence Webb as patch. With Adelman, in that system, can at least counterpunch and give better value than the Rockets have had at PF in....wow. Long time. And then maybe, maybe the rest of the assets might be able to get a PG. Maybe.

Who knows. But if Detroit is no longer a vaible end of career stop, I could definitely see Adelman's hire and the open starting spot in Houston at least garnering a feeler from Webb.

P.S. Battier for Lewis??? I thought it was the Suns who hired Kerr, not the Sonics. A Yao/TMac/Lewis trio would be crazy. You could start Bozo the one legged monkey at PF and you could still be a power team. And as alwayts I should jsut mention that we have several such one legged monkeys on our roster just waiting for a good home... ;)
 
Bricklayer said:
My darkhorse = Houston.

I think he was intending to finish up in Detroit, but I'm not sure that that team is going to be kept together now, and Webb may be seen as a rental. He was actually the only thing that revitalized them during the regular season when it looked like they were done. Now I think they probably are. And if he leaves, which possibly contending team has an open starting PF spot, his old coach, and a system he knows how to run? Could play the old man Vlade role for them.
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I'd love to see Webb end up in Houston.

I don't see him staying in Detroit now, I think they're going to start rebuiding & he obviously can't wait around for that even if they wanted him to.

In the right system, I can see Webb being a big contributor in a Vlade type role, and I think playing for RA would be ideal for Webb at this point in his career.
 
zo0mmike said:
Webb goes to Houston, they acquire Bibby and Doug Christie comes out of retirement to play for them also.
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I would die in happiness if that were to happen. You'd be talking Adelman's offense, with 2 superstars in T-Mac and Yao, 3 veterans of the Princeon offense, and an extremly solid role player in Battier. It would also solve the gaping holes at the PG and PF positions. It would be like an older version of the classic Kings with all kinds of talented youth infused in.
 
He needs to retire, he has lost it. He would not be the best fit in houston because they need a Guy on D to cover Yao.
 
jacobdrj said:
LAL... I don't see him going anywhere else...
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Hmm, maybe Detroit could do a sign and trade Webb with say Prince, Hamilton and whatever else for Kobe. Doesn't make too much sense for any party, but would be... interesting... for lack of a better word.
 
jacobdrj said:
LAL... I don't see him going anywhere else...
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Care to explain why?

I honestly do NOT see Webber going anywhere else but Detroit. If he doesn't re-sign with them, I think he may just retire. I pray he doesn't become one of those players who bounce around the league for a couple of years not willing to recognize when it's time to step down.
 
Maybe Chris can take his shot at modeling..back to the question. There's three teams I can see him going to. 1. Miami 2. LA 3. Detriot (even though I'm not sure he'll be back there).

1. Miami because Chris can shoot and pass the ball. And that takes the pressure off Wade and Shaq. He might see that team that can win a ring in one or two years. 2. LA: He said before if he had a whole year he was thinking about going to LA..don't know if he wants to go there, especially if he wants a ring. But he likes the the Princeton/Triangle offense and he might see himself over there. 3: Detriot: just because it's his home town. but a reason I don't see him back over there is because he might of felt that he wasn't being utalized in the fourth quarter.
 
For what it's worth, I think the LAST place Webber would go is Los Angeles. He has a successful business in Sacramento which is in large part successful because of the fond memories most Kings fans have of him. If he signs with the Lakers, that would disappear. I know it sounds inconsequential but I think it really could be a factor that should be considered.
 
VF21 said:
For what it's worth, I think the LAST place Webber would go is Los Angeles. He has a successful business in Sacramento which is in large part successful because of the fond memories most Kings fans have of him. If he signs with the Lakers, that would disappear. I know it sounds inconsequential but I think it really could be a factor that should be considered.
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More plausible, he just doesn't sign with the Lakers because they're garbage. They're not winning anything any time soon.
 
He should go to Cleveland, where he would be a nice post scorer off the bench, or to San Antonio, where he'd have the same role. I would say Houston as well, but you're betting on T-Mac transcending in the next few years, which still has not happened. LA would not be a bad option either, depending on what else they do.

With the emergence of Lebron it is hard to see any other Eastern Conference team as a good bet. Dumars blew it when he picked Darko, didn't develop him properly, and now their window is closed. Miami will have 2-3 more years like this last one, and then Wade will be in the same boat that Kobe is in now. I don't think that both Shaq and Wade will ever see a relatively healthy season together again.

If you really want a title shot you need to hitch our wagon to either Lebron, Duncan, or Kobe.
 
Battier for lewis and Cwebb with houston. Don't forget Bonzi is still there for a year if he wants.

They are still without a point but, Didn't somebody mention bibby opting out to play with Houston for the MLE. I know thats dumb but check it out. Maybe with Rose being a FA also maybe Webb, Howard, and Rose want to make one last stand together.

Bibby
Bonzi/Rose
Tmac
Webber/Howard
Yao
 
TheJoker said:
Isn't that what people were saying when the Sixers let him go a few months ago? i think we know how that ended up :rolleyes:​
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He considered it. If they make a trade for Jermaine O'neal I could see it happening. He's a smart guy who would fit their offense with his passing and he can still score in the post.
 
Venom said:
He should go to Cleveland, where he would be a nice post scorer off the bench, or to San Antonio, where he'd have the same role. I would say Houston as well, but you're betting on T-Mac transcending in the next few years, which still has not happened.
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T-Mac doesn't need to transcend anything. He just needs to learn to shoot the damn ball again. His jump shot is horrid now and he's so streaky that it's absolutely unpredictable when his jump shot shows up.

God, I remember 5 years ago, we were asking whether Kobe or T-Mac was better. Those back spasms have completely messed him up.

But on topic, Webber isn't coming to houston. And frankly, he's not the kind of guy we need right now. We need rebounding and some defense. Basically if Chuck Hayes magically grew 4 inches, we'd be set. They want to get younger so they'll be looking in another direction.
 
supamari0 said:
Basically if Chuck Hayes magically grew 4 inches, we'd be set.
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I think you may need to get to know your new coach a bit better before you make a statement like that. Take this from 8 years of experience: Chuck Hayes has absolutely no chance of getting playing time. Even if he were 4 inches taller he would still be a bencher ala Pollard.

Scary as this sounds, Juwan is your starter at the moment. Not a doubt in my mind.

Not to say that I disagree with the general sentiment -- the player I think Houston needs at PF is basically Kurt Thomas, only younger. But no offensive skills = need not apply.
 
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