Where are you Barnes!!

nAj jAn™

nAj jAn™

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I'm saving this question for about a couple of weeks now, and I'm really not amazed with TGCRA(you'll know later)....

When was the last time Barnes played a decent playing time? In the early November i think he was part of the rotation, with Kevin also, due to Doug's injury, then after November, his playing time was slowly reducing. Also with Kevin, as well as O-Tag...(too bad the matchup problems with him is increasing each games now, i wonder last month or early November, O-Tag didn't had matchup problems)

After then, the Mo Evans re-discovery and then the Kevin Martin re-experiment of The Great Coach Rick Adelman (TGCRA) included them again in his 7-8 man rotation, then all of a sudden, Barnes playing time has been place in the bench, waiting again for a Matt Barnes re-discovery or re-experiment, or another injury...I think he will be the next or i let me say the current Funderburke, Pollard, Wallace, Hedo(when JJ arrived), Massenburg of TGCRA's doghouse...

And the next list of TGCRA, i assume, will be O-Tag......then.....

I don't know.....

I'm just asking where are you Barnes??
 
nAj jAn™ said:
I'm saving this question for about a couple of weeks now, and I'm really not amazed with TGCRA(you'll know later)....

When was the last time Barnes played a decent playing time? In the early November i think he was part of the rotation, with Kevin also, due to Doug's injury, then after November, his playing time was slowly reducing. Also with Kevin, as well as O-Tag...(too bad the matchup problems with him is increasing each games now, i wonder last month or early November, O-Tag didn't had matchup problems)

After then, the Mo Evans re-discovery and then the Kevin Martin re-experiment of The Great Coach Rick Adelman (TGCRA) included them again in his 7-8 man rotation, then all of a sudden, Barnes playing time has been place in the bench, waiting again for a Matt Barnes re-discovery or re-experiment, or another injury...I think he will be the next or i let me say the current Funderburke, Pollard, Wallace, Hedo(when JJ arrived), Massenburg of TGCRA's doghouse...

And the next list of TGCRA, i assume, will be O-Tag......then.....

I don't know.....

I'm just asking where are you Barnes??
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Right now I would rather see Martin and especially Evans on the court instead of Barnes. Not sure where else he would play.
 
I might be the biggest Barnes fan/supporter here and even I can see that Evans and Martin are better and should be getting time ahead of him. There isn't room for 5 guys in the sg/sf rotation. If Barnes gets regular minutes, then who sits?
 
nAj jAn™ said:
I'm saving this question for about a couple of weeks now, and I'm really not amazed with TGCRA(you'll know later)....

When was the last time Barnes played a decent playing time? In the early November i think he was part of the rotation, with Kevin also, due to Doug's injury, then after November, his playing time was slowly reducing. Also with Kevin, as well as O-Tag...(too bad the matchup problems with him is increasing each games now, i wonder last month or early November, O-Tag didn't had matchup problems)

After then, the Mo Evans re-discovery and then the Kevin Martin re-experiment of The Great Coach Rick Adelman (TGCRA) included them again in his 7-8 man rotation, then all of a sudden, Barnes playing time has been place in the bench, waiting again for a Matt Barnes re-discovery or re-experiment, or another injury...I think he will be the next or i let me say the current Funderburke, Pollard, Wallace, Hedo(when JJ arrived), Massenburg of TGCRA's doghouse...

And the next list of TGCRA, i assume, will be O-Tag......then.....

I don't know.....

I'm just asking where are you Barnes??
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Playing time for bench players ISN'T guaranteed and depends on a lot of things, including who is showing the most in practice, in games, etc.

Your sarcasm is misplaced and erroneous IMHO. Tag is getting the time in the games where the coach thinks he'll be effective. Barnes is the third option right now behind Evans (who has been doing spectacular things) and Martin (who brings a defensive presence and quickness out there that we really need without Bobby on the court).
 
I'm wondering whether Barnes and future picks might somehow be used to get the Kings a backup point guard. While I'm rooting for the local kid, it seems as if Martin and especially Evans have bigger upsides.
 
thedofd said:
I'm wondering whether Barnes and future picks might somehow be used to get the Kings a backup point guard. While I'm rooting for the local kid, it seems as if Martin and especially Evans have bigger upsides.
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It wouldn't surprise me too much, but I think Barnes might still develop here. It's just that right now RA is giving the minutes IMHO to the ones that are filling the Bobby gap the best.
 
thedofd said:
I'm wondering whether Barnes and future picks might somehow be used to get the Kings a backup point guard. While I'm rooting for the local kid, it seems as if Martin and especially Evans have bigger upsides.
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I hear you. There is a really long shot situation developing up in Minny. As the Wolves contenue to implode and the PG's Cassel and Hudson fight like a pair of idots it is possible that GP could snag one or them for picks and say Barnes... long shot but McHale has to be feeling some heat to dump one of those knuckle heads and probalby Spree as well.
 
Sam Cassel as a King? Oh, I think not. First, he's not going to want to come off the bench and I definitely don't see anyone wanting Bibby to sit down...

Pippi#2 as a King? Please. Just shoot me now. There are enough options out there to tempt GP without him getting involved with the TWolves.

Besides - why would we want to do anything to lessen the tensions in Minnesota?
 
nAj jAn™ said:
I'm saving this question for about a couple of weeks now, and I'm really not amazed with TGCRA(you'll know later)....

When was the last time Barnes played a decent playing time? In the early November i think he was part of the rotation, with Kevin also, due to Doug's injury, then after November, his playing time was slowly reducing. Also with Kevin, as well as O-Tag...(too bad the matchup problems with him is increasing each games now, i wonder last month or early November, O-Tag didn't had matchup problems)

After then, the Mo Evans re-discovery and then the Kevin Martin re-experiment of The Great Coach Rick Adelman (TGCRA) included them again in his 7-8 man rotation, then all of a sudden, Barnes playing time has been place in the bench, waiting again for a Matt Barnes re-discovery or re-experiment, or another injury...I think he will be the next or i let me say the current Funderburke, Pollard, Wallace, Hedo(when JJ arrived), Massenburg of TGCRA's doghouse...

And the next list of TGCRA, i assume, will be O-Tag......then.....

I don't know.....

I'm just asking where are you Barnes??
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I agree. This is why RA's decisions are confusing. I don't want to take any minutes away from Evans or Martin, but on a night where Peja is obviously struggling why not sit him for a few extra minutes, give him a chance to get it together, and give Barnes a chance to maybe do something. What is RA worried about? Losing points, rebounds, assits? Peja was having a bad night and should have sat more. That is one of my griipes with RA, he sticks with his starting 5 too much at the expense of the bench.
 
VF21 said:
Sam Cassel as a King? Oh, I think not. First, he's not going to want to come off the bench and I definitely don't see anyone wanting Bibby to sit down...

Pippi#2 as a King? Please. Just shoot me now. There are enough options out there to tempt GP without him getting involved with the TWolves.

Besides - why would we want to do anything to lessen the tensions in Minnesota?
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Well your disdain for Gollum and Pipi aside they are both very good PG's MUCH better than the factory rejectsthat are avaliable and I doubt EITHER of them would assume they would/could or should start infront of Bibby. As for the final point I have no Idea why we would wnat to relive Minny's tensions... they look a lot like Portland right now.
 
Um, HELLO?

I LIKE Barnes, I really do. He's the biggest, best rebounding, and best passing of all our young guys.

But that said, the reason he isn't playing right now is because he PLAYED himself out of the rotation. Went through a long dry spell there where he had basically no good games for weeks. And he is always teetering right on the edge of being out of control. When he's not going good, he makes a ton of mistakes and is anything but reliable.

P.S. Minnesota is NOT going to trade with us. Name me the last time that big conference ricvals traded with each other during the season? Not how it works. They aren't going to help us.
 
profit said:
I agree. This is why RA's decisions are confusing. I don't want to take any minutes away from Evans or Martin, but on a night where Peja is obviously struggling why not sit him for a few extra minutes, give him a chance to get it together, and give Barnes a chance to maybe do something. What is RA worried about? Losing points, rebounds, assits? Peja was having a bad night and should have sat more. That is one of my griipes with RA, he sticks with his starting 5 too much at the expense of the bench.
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I mentioned this in a post yesterday as well, but we do not see what goes on in practice. My guess is that Barnes hasn't been showing much at all. Everyone thought Kevin Martin would get more playing time at the start of the season. But Barnes was producing in the pre-season and he was producing in practice so he got the nod. The last week or so he was playing, he pretty much was sucking it up on the court. If you are an established veteran, you get a little slack and some time to work out of your slump. If you aren't, you get a nice view from the bench for a while. He was trying to force things a little too much, his defense wasn't very effective, and he was turning the ball over. Hence, Maurice Evans was inserted. I don't see anything changing unless Maurice stops producing.
 
Bricklayer said:
Um, HELLO?

I LIKE Barnes, I really do. He's the biggest, best rebounding, and best passing of all our young guys.

But that said, the reason he isn't playing right now is because he PLAYED himself out of the rotation. Went through a long dry spell there where he had basically no good games for weeks. And he is always teetering right on the edge of being out of control. When he's not going good, he makes a ton of mistakes and is anything but reliable.

P.S. Minnesota is NOT going to trade with us. Name me the last time that big conference ricvals traded with each other during the season? Not how it works. They aren't going to help us.
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Well I did say it was a really long shot ;)
 
HndsmCelt said:
Well your disdain for Gollum and Pipi aside they are both very good PG's MUCH better than the factory rejectsthat are avaliable and I doubt EITHER of them would assume they would/could or should start infront of Bibby. As for the final point I have no Idea why we would wnat to relive Minny's tensions... they look a lot like Portland right now.
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My disdain for Sam Cassel? Okay... Look at it this way. Do we really WANT a back-up PG who whines even more than any of our existing or past players about EVERY SINGLE FOUL thats called on him and suffers from periodic and inexplicable back spasms, headaches, hangnails, etc?

As far as Pippi goes, I just don't think he's worth what we would have to give for him, if something could even be worked out.

AND, as I said before, it's beginning to look like a train wreck in Minnesota. I'm gonna stand back and enjoy it - not lobby on ways to alleviate the problems.

And yes, I know that's bad...and I don't care.

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Wherever you are Barnes, stay where you are. Evans is 10 times better. And even though some would argue that it doesn't have to be EITHER / OR between Evans and Barnes I don't think that it's just the coincidence that in Adelman's rotation there is only enough minutes for one of them...
 
We could always try for Wally Szczerbiak. Good shooter, and could probably spell Peja for a while if he's going through a bad night. And plus, it'd mean more eye candy for Evenstar. :p
 
RageMe11 said:
I guess an even better question might be...."where are you eric daniels"?
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Which would beg the follow-up question, "...who cares?"

Daniels has been pretty ineffective in the limited minutes he's had on the court. Just whose minutes would you like to see him take?

Sometimes bench players are just that - bench players. Not all of them play. Some of them rarely IF EVER play. Ask Mateen Cleaves.

;)
 
His family cares....His friends....His highschool coach.....His poor talent cares!;)

That's exactly what I don't like about 12 man lineup in basketball, the poor 12th man is just a bench player...He can only play in garbage time...There should be a 10 man lineup, so that all players can play, because thats there profession, their living, their job, to play basketball...Not a bench player....

Even though they are lucky they were pick in the team, still his talent is wasted, he only sit there, waiting for their team to blowout the other team, or vice versa... There's no insurance that he can play every game...

I think the basketball should be a 10 man lineup, or even 5 quarters just to see limited minutes of a what you call only the "BENCH PLAYER".....
 
RageMe11 said:
I guess an even better question might be...."where are you eric daniels"?
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Daniels has talent, its just he doesnt have the needed skills to play small forward, and hes too small to play power forward (which is where he played in college)..6'8 214 pounds, Evans is a guard and he weighs more..besides, its not like Songailas been terrible, so theres no reason to put Daniels in except for garbage time.
 
nAj jAn™ said:
His family cares....His friends....His highschool coach.....His poor talent cares!;)

That's exactly what I don't like about 12 man lineup in basketball, the poor 12th man is just a bench player...He can only play in garbage time...There should be a 10 man lineup, so that all players can play, because thats there profession, their living, their job, to play basketball...Not a bench player....

Even though they are lucky they were pick in the team, still his talent is wasted, he only sit there, waiting for their team to blowout the other team, or vice versa... There's no insurance that he can play every game...

I think the basketball should be a 10 man lineup, or even 5 quarters just to see limited minutes of a what you call only the "BENCH PLAYER".....
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Daniels is an NBA player. He's living the dream of thousands of young men who aren't NBA players. He's in his first year and he's on the Sacramento Kings. That, in and of itself, is something pretty wonderful.

Sure, he's sitting at the end of the bench right now. It happens. IF the team only had 10 players he wouldn't even be in a uniform. Which do you think he would rather be - sitting in a Kings uniform with the rest of the team or sitting at home watching the game on TV?

;)
 
Also, I would like to point out that Daniels is getting some good experience (if not much real game time experience). He, and others, get to go up against Kings starters in practice. They get real eye opening experience when they do that. The guys at the end of the bench serve a purpose. They keep the starters in playing shape by giving them good work outs during practice.
 
VF21 said:
Daniels is an NBA player. He's living the dream of thousands of young men who aren't NBA players. He's in his first year and he's on the Sacramento Kings. That, in and of itself, is something pretty wonderful.

Sure, he's sitting at the end of the bench right now. It happens. IF the team only had 10 players he wouldn't even be in a uniform. Which do you think he would rather be - sitting in a Kings uniform with the rest of the team or sitting at home watching the game on TV?

;)
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Well, how about playing in a Kings uniform with the rest of the team... I'm not pointing only to Daniels, Barnes or any of the Kings garbage type of players... I'm pointing to all of the "BENCH players" in the NBA who are, yeah right, lucky they are living the dream of thousands of young man who didn't get a shot in the NBA, but also they like to dream to play what they are capable of playing, not just a BENCH PLAYER but to be called a NBA PLAYER...

That's why I like the NBA to have 5 quarters or 10 man lineup so there will be no BENCH PLAYERS...All the 11-12th man will be expanded to more teams... But 5 quarters is the right way to play all the players....
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nAj jAn™ said:
Well, how about playing in a Kings uniform with the rest of the team... I'm not pointing only to Daniels, Barnes or any of the Kings garbage type of players... I'm pointing to all of the "BENCH players" in the NBA who are, yeah right, lucky they are living the dream of thousands of young man who didn't get a shot in the NBA, but also they like to dream to play what they are capable of playing, not just a BENCH PLAYER but to be called a NBA PLAYER...

That's why I like the NBA to have 5 quarters or 10 man lineup so there will be no BENCH PLAYERS...All the 11-12th man will be expanded to more teams... But 5 quarters is the right way to play all the players....
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Or you could play with on time limit what so ever. Last man left standing. ;)
 
Oh geez. Maybe they could quit keeping score, too, so nobody's feelings would be hurt by being the "losers"...

The bench doesn't always play. Life isn't always fair. Those are just things you have to accept.

Any guy who puts on a team uniform is an NBA player, whether or not he plays. There are 30 teams with 12 men on their rosters. That means 360 young men a year get to be called active NBA players. Some of them are starters; some are role players; some are bench players who get very little playing time. That's just the way it is...
 
Okay, Life is unfair.

You know what, I realized it would be great to be paid without work(play) than work(play) without pay! hehe...

Bench players is lucky they have a million salary and they don't play...That would be a dream to many young man...hehe...
 
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