whats going to happen with KG?

[Fillmoe]

LA Times - Teams around the league are already eyeing Kevin Garnett, a solid citizen but one whose time in Minnesota may be passing, if it hasn't already passed.

The Timberwolves are on a downswing and Garnett wore down trying to carry them last season. He didn't like losing Sam Cassell, Latrell Sprewell and Coach Flip Saunders and, coincidentally or not, was a no-show at a team luncheon for local civic leaders.

"Kevin knew he was supposed to be there yesterday," Coach Dwane Casey told the local media. "It was not a big issue. For me it's a dead subject…. It wasn't a thing out of defiance. It wasn't a thing out of, 'Oh, I'm going to show them this.' It was a thing he didn't make it to. No big deal."

Garnett, in less of a hurry to explain it away, wouldn't say what it was. A year ago, Cassell and Sprewell skipped the same function, although Casey noted, "You had two guys negotiating contracts. Kevin, last time I checked, is signed."

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yall think if minny sucks it up again that KG will ask for a trade? and if so where will he end up.... wouldnt yall love to see him in sac?

 

[Evenstar]

get er done geoff

 

[VF21]

Kevin bleeping Garnett...

Oh yeah...

 

[kingsfan916]

Kg

Auuuriggggghhhhhttt!

 

[SacTownKid]

He be goin' east! If he goes at all.

 

[AriesMar27]

so... who thinks he will end up with the knicks? hardaway and james for kg at the deadline....

who would we give up for kg? i like reef, but this is kg would reef mind coming off the bench? if so the webber trio and garcia would do the trick....

 

[Padrino]

so... who thinks he will end up with the knicks? hardaway and james for kg at the deadline....

who would we give up for kg? i like reef, but this is kg would reef mind coming off the bench? if so the webber trio and garcia would do the trick....

you'd find a way to deal peja. peja/bibby works, salary wise. shareef could move to SF, and KG would play PF.

hart
wells
rahim
garnett
miller

i like that lineup. hart wouldn't need to do much more than bring the ball up the court and defend. the ball would be initiated from kg/miller/rahim's hands most of the time, anyways.

 

[VF21]

hart
wells
rahim
garnett
miller

i like that lineup.

Me too, actually!

 

[ParniValjak]

He be goin' east! If he goes at all.

I hate to be party pooper but I agree.

If KG goes anywhere its east. NO WAY he gets traded to a team in the West. It just ain't happening.

 

[ParniValjak]

you'd find a way to deal peja. peja/bibby works, salary wise. shareef could move to SF, and KG would play PF.

hart
wells
rahim
garnett
miller

i like that lineup. hart wouldn't need to do much more than bring the ball up the court and defend. the ball would be initiated from kg/miller/rahim's hands most of the time, anyways.

That line up simply wouldn't work in our system. There is no one, absolutely no one on the team that would spread the floor for us on the offensive end. No perimeter threats what so ever. We can afford to lose only one of Mike or Peja. Losing both just leaves us with no perimeter guys out there. You could say Garcia, but he is not even getting decent minutes in the rotation.

 

[Bricklayer]

A few random thoughts from one of the patron saints of bring KG to the Kings:

1) by tradition, superstars move between conferences. Not an absolute rule though (see Baron, Vince, just last year), and the sample size is pretty small (because most people are not dumb enough to trade their superstars).

2) I would think that what the Wolves might be looking for is something along the lines of sending KG to Orlando for Dwight Howard and as many other young players/picks as they can get their hands on, but leaving the Magic wih Francis, KG and Hill as a star trio. Likely not enough to get KG that ring, but enough that he gets to go comepte for every year and be molified. Meanwhile the Wolves hope they have nabbed their franchise guy of the future.

3) HOWEVER, if the Wolves got he other way and are seeking an immediate rebuild, I cannot stress enough that the Kings (us) have the ability to put perhaps the single best package in the entire NBA in front of the Wolves. We have 5 very good players, any two of which we could lose for KG and come out better for it. And any THREE of which we could give them and gamble on our depth paying off. Not sure if any other team can really come close to that sort of immediate return for the Wolves while still fielding a KG-led contender. While the Wolves might look East first, if we put down a considerably better offer of what they are looking for, who knows?

4) SAR and KG could work together as a frontline in the same way that KG and Joe Smith did (only better of course). The criticism of KG has always been that he doesn't like to work consistently in the post. Enter SAR.

5) I would agree that a Hart, Wells, SAR, KG, Miller lineup lacks the shooting we'd need.

6) I really like what Bonzi is bringing thus far -- would love to keep him. Would sacrifice him if necessary to bring in KG however.

7) At this point not sure what the Wolves would want with Peja -- he is a FA, demanding big bucks, and if they trade KG would be duplicative with theit remaining weapon (Wally). Nonetheless, since it is well known they are not big Wally fans...

8) MY PROPOSAL: We could offer Peja and Miller and KT and Martin (hey and maybe even a #1) and STILL field:

C -- Skinner
PF - KG
SF - SAR
OG - Wells
PG - Bibby
6th - Hart
7th - Garcia
8th - Corliss
9th - whoever else came with KG to get the salries to match
10th - Sampson

Which is about one shooter (Garcia if he comes through) away from being an incredibly rugged long defensive team with all kinds of firepower that would be a SERIOUS threat.

And the Wolves could still field:
C- Miller
PF- KT
SF- Peja
OG - Wally
PG - Jaric
6th - Hassel
7th - Griffin
8th - Hudson
9th - Olowakandi

Which would play no defense but be an exciting (if you like shooting) high-scoring team that could easily make the playoffs.

Again, all about what the Wolves are looking for in a potential deal. But we've got numerous serious trading pieces. And if its ever time to be "flexible" it is when a superstar hits the market who seems a perfect fit for your system.

 

[GoGoGadget]

Any deal that would let us get KG and keep Bibby is music to my ears.

As I said in the offseason, the two-man game between them would be a beautiful thing.

 

[HndsmCelt]

Mc Hale definatly has a problem, but it seems every time I think they guy has just worn out his welcome in Minny he pulls something off so I won't hold my breath untill he deals KG. I'd support almost ANY deal that brings him to the Kings but some how I just don't see that happening.

 

[AriesMar27]

i still think that the knicks would be the most likely choice, with hardaway being an expiring contract.... the would miss the playoffs by a mile get a high draft pick have cap space and could sign nene as a free agent....

with the kings, though id hate to lose peja... trading him, corliss and skinner wouldnt be that bad of an idea if we could get hassell as well....

 

[captain bill]

If we could convert Peja's max contract into Kevin Garnett's max contract, I would pull the trigger in a heartbeat. No offense to Peja, but there is absolutely no comparison between the two.

 

[G_M]

If we could convert Peja's max contract into Kevin Garnett's max contract, I would pull the trigger in a heartbeat. No offense to Peja, but there is absolutely no comparison between the two.

There's also no comparison between max contracts for the two players!!

KG is making 20 million next year! Don't get me wrong, if there's a guy worth a MAX deal it's KG! Even if you signed Peja to a MAX deal you would have to include probably at least one additional high dollar starter to make the deal work financially.

 

[Padrino]

That line up simply wouldn't work in our system. There is no one, absolutely no one on the team that would spread the floor for us on the offensive end. No perimeter threats what so ever. We can afford to lose only one of Mike or Peja. Losing both just leaves us with no perimeter guys out there. You could say Garcia, but he is not even getting decent minutes in the rotation.

i wasn't necessarily thinking in the short term. trade bibby/peja and yes, the kings lack a consistent outside threat, but so what? it's much easier to find 3-pt specialists than it is to find superstars like kevin garnett. get a combo guard like eddie house or damon jones who can (start and) bring the ball up court, and who can provide you with your outside shot. just don't be stupid enough to pay them a buncha money.

 

[Big Cuz 15]

i still think that the knicks would be the most likely choice, with hardaway being an expiring contract.... the would miss the playoffs by a mile get a high draft pick have cap space and could sign nene as a free agent....

with the kings, though id hate to lose peja... trading him, corliss and skinner wouldnt be that bad of an idea if we could get hassell as well....

don't let the door hit you on the way out payjah. i'm sorry but i've seen enough soft play from homeboy in the playoffs. cya peja! welcome KG!
i agree with brick, if we could bring the big ticket to sac -- do it!

 

[SoupIsGood]

JO for KG? I can dream

 

[Bricklayer]

JO for KG? I can dream

There's really that much dissatisfaction with your franchise guy huh? I think KG is clearly better myself, but when a franchise has a lot of success with a young player as their #1 that's a little surprising.

Besides, its traditional at this time to scheme up some way that your team can trade away everyone BUT J.O. and Ron, and still bring back KG to form the J.O., KG, Ron frontline of doom.

 

[VF21]

Any deal that would let us get KG and keep Bibby is music to my ears.

As I said in the offseason, the two-man game between them would be a beautiful thing.

Oh yeah... In my zeal to sign on to any proposal that has KG in our lineup, I temporarily forgot how much I wanted to see a Bibby-Garnett duo...

8) MY PROPOSAL: We could offer Peja and Miller and KT and Martin (hey and maybe even a #1) and STILL field:

C -- Skinner
PF - KG
SF - SAR
OG - Wells
PG - Bibby
6th - Hart
7th - Garcia
8th - Corliss
9th - whoever else came with KG to get the salries to match
10th - Sampson

Which is about one shooter (Garcia if he comes through) away from being an incredibly rugged long defensive team with all kinds of firepower that would be a SERIOUS threat.

Can't we throw in anything else to make sure the deal goes through? What about some spiffy gold uniforms? A big 6?

I certainly hope you're working on this.

 

[LPKingsFan]

Howabout JO on the Kings?

 

[Bricklayer]

Howabout JO on the Kings?

Well sure, but...how exactly? Naked pictures of Larry Bird in a compromising position with a feral goat may be in order.

Indiana has a real shot at the title this year. I have an immensely hard time seeing them move J.O. for anything LESS than KG.

Still one of those annoyig things when you lopok back and realize he was sitting there and could have been had for an aging Dale Davis.

 

[ParniValjak]

A few random thoughts from one of the patron saints of bring KG to the Kings:

1) by tradition, superstars move between conferences. Not an absolute rule though (see Baron, Vince, just last year), and the sample size is pretty small (because most people are not dumb enough to trade their superstars).

2) I would think that what the Wolves might be looking for is something along the lines of sending KG to Orlando for Dwight Howard and as many other young players/picks as they can get their hands on, but leaving the Magic wih Francis, KG and Hill as a star trio. Likely not enough to get KG that ring, but enough that he gets to go comepte for every year and be molified. Meanwhile the Wolves hope they have nabbed their franchise guy of the future.

3) HOWEVER, if the Wolves got he other way and are seeking an immediate rebuild, I cannot stress enough that the Kings (us) have the ability to put perhaps the single best package in the entire NBA in front of the Wolves. We have 5 very good players, any two of which we could lose for KG and come out better for it. And any THREE of which we could give them and gamble on our depth paying off. Not sure if any other team can really come close to that sort of immediate return for the Wolves while still fielding a KG-led contender. While the Wolves might look East first, if we put down a considerably better offer of what they are looking for, who knows?

4) SAR and KG could work together as a frontline in the same way that KG and Joe Smith did (only better of course). The criticism of KG has always been that he doesn't like to work consistently in the post. Enter SAR.

5) I would agree that a Hart, Wells, SAR, KG, Miller lineup lacks the shooting we'd need.

6) I really like what Bonzi is bringing thus far -- would love to keep him. Would sacrifice him if necessary to bring in KG however.

7) At this point not sure what the Wolves would want with Peja -- he is a FA, demanding big bucks, and if they trade KG would be duplicative with theit remaining weapon (Wally). Nonetheless, since it is well known they are not big Wally fans...

8) MY PROPOSAL: We could offer Peja and Miller and KT and Martin (hey and maybe even a #1) and STILL field:

C -- Skinner
PF - KG
SF - SAR
OG - Wells
PG - Bibby
6th - Hart
7th - Garcia
8th - Corliss
9th - whoever else came with KG to get the salries to match
10th - Sampson

Which is about one shooter (Garcia if he comes through) away from being an incredibly rugged long defensive team with all kinds of firepower that would be a SERIOUS threat.

And the Wolves could still field:
C- Miller
PF- KT
SF- Peja
OG - Wally
PG - Jaric
6th - Hassel
7th - Griffin
8th - Hudson
9th - Olowakandi

Which would play no defense but be an exciting (if you like shooting) high-scoring team that could easily make the playoffs.

Again, all about what the Wolves are looking for in a potential deal. But we've got numerous serious trading pieces. And if its ever time to be "flexible" it is when a superstar hits the market who seems a perfect fit for your system.

I like that. I like it very much.

However, from everything I have read about the Timberwolves this year, their new coach seems to be strong on defence. I somehow don't see them agreeing to that deal. Miller, Pedja and KT are not exactly defensively oriented players. That sort of trade doesn't go well with their phylosophy.

Hypothetically, if this trade is to happen, then I think we need another player that can nail a 3 pointer. Bibby and Garcia are just not enough. We have 3 now and I feel like we are one shot because we can't count on Garcia game to game.

On the line up, I would rather play KG at center, SAR at PF and get a swingman who can shoot the 3 on consistent basis to start at either SG or SF. Doesn't have to be a big time player. Just someone who can play good D and nail a 3 if needed. A younger version of Jimmy Jackson would be pretty good.

Having said that, I just don't see it happening

 

[sidney]

If a KG trade is on the horizon, first KG himself will have to make it known publicly that he is unhappy and wants out. Until then, I'd forget about it. The Wolves won't do it unless their hand is forced.

Can't even think of when a superstar was traded in his prime. They are usually always on the down side of their career, i.e. Shaq/Webber

 

[Evenstar]

Any deal that would let us get KG and keep Bibby is music to my ears.

As I said in the offseason, the two-man game between them would be a beautiful thing.

i agree.

 

[SoupIsGood]

There's really that much dissatisfaction with your franchise guy huh? I think KG is clearly better myself, but when a franchise has a lot of success with a young player as their #1 that's a little surprising.

Besides, its traditional at this time to scheme up some way that your team can trade away everyone BUT J.O. and Ron, and still bring back KG to form the J.O., KG, Ron frontline of doom.

Nah, just being realistic. I love JO, but damn, KG is KG.

Although, if we are going to do the frontline of doom thing, I'd rather we include Ron and some other junk in a package that they would never even consider taking for KG, until Bird sweet-talks his old buddy McHale. Then, we hand the keys to the SF spot to Granger and watch a DG/KG/JO frontline.

 

[SURVIVOR]

Garnett For Peja And Bibby

This trade works on Real GM. Discuss.

 

[Bricklayer]

This really doesn't need its own thread as numerous similar proposals (Peja & Bibby, Peja & Miller) etc. have been proposed on here for the last year. Going to merge with the existing KG trade thread as its very much within the bounds of the other ideas there.

 

[Crackerman]

Not Gonna Happen. No need to discuss...