What you see is what you get.......

[CruzDude]

Marty McNeal writes in the Bee this morning that what you see is what you likely will get for training camp:

Kings getting an early start
All the Kings' men are not in town yet, but many of those who are here have been playing during the evening at the team's practice facility. That's a good thing because we know the Kings need all the work and togetherness they can muster.

Kings basketball president Geoff Petrie left Wednesday for Madrid, Spain, to see the final few days of the European championships. He said there was nothing on the table for the Kings in terms of a trade, so what the Kings have now likely will be what we'll see when they open training camp next month.

 

[Bricklayer]

What a miserable miserable summer.

There is not a single Kings fan, homer, realist, pessimist, win now type, rebuild type, whatever, who entered this summer hoping to have the almost exactly the same team back. For the second summer in a row too I might add. Just a complete failure. But at least I hope Geoff has a nice vacation in Spain. Maybe he'll stay there.

With so many of the league's drab franchises turning the corner on their rebuilds and stocking up on young studs this summer, I wonder if there is any more unappealing concoction in the NBA right now (to anybody not in Sacramento). Perhaps the Clippers with the loss of Brand. Reminds me of the good ole days of the Kings/Clips axis of incompetence.

 

[NewMonkey]

Very disappointing, but not surprising.

 

[dude12]

What a miserable miserable summer.

There is not a single Kings fan, homer, realist, pessimist, win now type, rebuild type, whatever, who entered this summer hoping to have the almost exactly the same team back. For the second summer in a row too I might add. Just a complete failure. But at least I hope Geoff has a nice vacation in Spain. Maybe he'll stay there.

With so many of the league's drab franchises turning the corner on their rebuilds and stocking up on young studs this summer, I wonder if there is any more unappealing concoction in the NBA right now (to anybody not in Sacramento). Perhaps the Clippers with the loss of Brand. Reminds me of the good ole days of the Kings/Clips axis of incompetence.

Sounds like you would have taken any offer for Artest or Bibby.

 

[ainokea]

Ideally we would have liked a lot to happen this summer, but realistically you know this is how it must happen. Who's going to take KT, Reef or BM? It would take a ballsy move by someone else to take Ron-Ron. Bibby is the only carrot coming off a bad year with his value probably at an all-time low. We're just not in a position for the kind of summer where we make a big splash unless another team makes a really foolish move. It's going to take time, losing, draft picks and not resigning some of our players. Patience, Daniel-san.

 

[Smills91]

I think we addressed a LOT of main issues with the flaws of last year's roster...SIZE/LENGTH.

Adding Hawes/Moore/Watkins...this team is a LOT bigger than last year's team. Everyone is going to be able to play their more-natural positions instead of Artest at 4 and SAR at 5.

My biggest concern personally is the back-up PG spot. I'd LOVE to trade Kenny to a team like the Warriors for Sarunas or Houston for anyone of their back-up PG's.

We get healthy and things click there's no reason this team can't perform really well.

The roster has talent, and now we have some complimentary pieces with a hopefully improved coaching change...I think the Kings can be found anywhere between slots 4-12 in the WC. It's that wide open.

If these things don't happen...those SAME CRAPPY offers that we heard about over the summer will STILL be on the table in February, but then we may have more leverage if our players values don't change.

 

[LA King Fan II]

Please put me in the category of the "would have taken anything for Bibby and Artest" group. Or even Kevin Martin since I feel his position is stockpiled.

They've been stupid for very long. Idle. Impotent. From their poor signings to poor draft picks to loss of an entertaining style of play - they are not the Kings I bandwagon hopped onto back in 1999.

My allegiance is dangling only because of the inept realization of what the Kings had by the Kings themselves. Their OWN style. If the Lakers trade Kobe my allegiance will shift back to LA and I'll save the $$ on NBA ticket. Sorry but watching Ron Artest, Kenny Thomas, Abdul Rahim, Mikki Moore and Brad Miller is a far cry from 2002.

Yecch.

 

[Wuster]

What a miserable miserable summer.

There is not a single Kings fan, homer, realist, pessimist, win now type, rebuild type, whatever, who entered this summer hoping to have the almost exactly the same team back. For the second summer in a row too I might add. Just a complete failure. But at least I hope Geoff has a nice vacation in Spain. Maybe he'll stay there.

With so many of the league's drab franchises turning the corner on their rebuilds and stocking up on young studs this summer, I wonder if there is any more unappealing concoction in the NBA right now (to anybody not in Sacramento). Perhaps the Clippers with the loss of Brand. Reminds me of the good ole days of the Kings/Clips axis of incompetence.

You said it. Miserable.

For all those who have knocked Danny Ainge, at least he has rocked the NBA boat and is TRYING. Kings on the other hand are in some sort of denial mode at best.

Miserable.

 

[John Galt]

I'm a lone wolf, I am satisfied with Geoff's patience.

I have not always been, I was clamoring to get rid of Brad and KT no matter what most of the summer.

But maybe dumping those guys now is a compromise... a failure of sorts. Maybe we do simply have to wait for our ship to come in in 2009 or 2010, whenever these horrible contracts naturally expire.

Maybe dumping guys now is an "instant gratification" that is just as bad or worse as doing a MLE deal like Mikki's.

I am a happy Kings fan looking forward to going to the games.

The constant nagging constant constant constant chinese water torture constant constant constant complaining has grown so tiresome.

I would not have taken any deal that Geoff is known to have rejected.... not Magette, not Gooden, not Heat scraps, not Radmanovic... none of it.

If I found out that Geoff eschewed an opportunity to unload Brad, Kenny or both (for nothing but cap relief), I would join the mob calling for his head. But I don't know that he missed any opportunities on that front.

 

[Smills91]

I'm a lone wolf, I am satisfied with Geoff's patience.

I have not always been, I was clamoring to get rid of Brad and KT no matter what most of the summer.

But maybe dumping those guys now is a compromise... a failure of sorts. Maybe we do simply have to wait for our ship to come in in 2009 or 2010, whenever these horrible contracts naturally expire.

Maybe dumping guys now is an "instant gratification" that is just as bad or worse as doing a MLE deal like Mikki's.

I am a happy Kings fan looking forward to going to the games.

The constant nagging constant constant constant chinese water torture constant constant constant complaining has grown so tiresome.

I would not have taken any deal that Geoff is known to have rejected.... not Magette, not Gooden, not Heat scraps, not Radmanovic... none of it.

If I found out that Geoff eschewed an opportunity to unload Brad, Kenny or both (for nothing but cap relief), I would join the mob calling for his head. But I don't know that he missed any opportunities on that front.

Exactly!

 

[Circa_1985_Fan]

You said it. Miserable.

For all those who have knocked Danny Ainge, at least he has rocked the NBA boat and is TRYING. Kings on the other hand are in some sort of denial mode at best.

Miserable.

True, Ainge rocked the NBA boat this summer...but it is what it is...and the more and more I look at the bunch of guys we have, I'm content...at least for THIS season...with low expectations. I want to see what Hawes has to offer, he can score and pass for a big guy, much like Brad...and Brad is a whole other issue, I'm curious to see if he really IS in better shape. You look at our roster now, as opposed to the start of last season, and I feel a little better about it than I did then, especially after losing Bonzi bringing in Muss...those 2 things hurt more than anything else, and were probably the root of our suffering last year. Now if we could just get rid of K-9, that would be another good thing that would be conducive to moving forward. If Ron plays up to his abilities and continues to mature, Bibby returns to old form, Martin has another great year, Brad returns to form, and the kids continue to grow, then who knows what kind of year we might have...having Reggie as our coach now should hopefully bring us harmony, team-wise. But I think the Mike and Brad factors were huge last year in our demise, and if those fortunes are reversed, obviously that would probably give us 10 or so more wins.

 

[hiero]

Please put me in the category of the "would have taken anything for Bibby and Artest" group. Or even Kevin Martin since I feel his position is stockpiled.

They've been stupid for very long. Idle. Impotent. From their poor signings to poor draft picks to loss of an entertaining style of play - they are not the Kings I bandwagon hopped onto back in 1999.

My allegiance is dangling only because of the inept realization of what the Kings had by the Kings themselves. Their OWN style. If the Lakers trade Kobe my allegiance will shift back to LA and I'll save the $$ on NBA ticket. Sorry but watching Ron Artest, Kenny Thomas, Abdul Rahim, Mikki Moore and Brad Miller is a far cry from 2002.

Yecch.

Hop right back off. The bandwagon fans are the most annoying ones on this site, or anywhere. Sacramento has a ton of real fans, who don't cry and moan about every single little thing. Portland has a lot of bandwagoners now, that should probably be your new team. Peace.

 

[hiero]

This summer is pretty much what I expected. I never thought we'd trade Bibby or Artest, besides that week of David Lee talk, because there simply wasnt anything worth trading for. The Cavs and Heat have nothing to offer, and the other teams that want vets were not willing to give up any good young players that would actually help us long term.


Im really happy that we finally got some bigmen into Sac though, i had been waiting years for that so on that note, the Kings are moving in a postive direction, towards a more balanced team that has a good defensive foundation. I do wish that we hadnt drafted Douby and that we had a real backup point guard, and there are a lot of things that I "wish" but most of them are unrealistic. The Kings just barely decided this year to start rebuilding, so I wasnt expecting them to magically turn into a team full of young studs and a superstar defensive center.

There was little to no chance that we were gonna get rid of our overpaid old players, SAR/KT/MILLER, because nobody wants them. obviously we have made some mistakes in the past and they were dumb moves, but it looks like we are actually trying to do something about it, so I have hope for the team in the future.

if any of the fans here actually remember the old mitch richmond days, or the days when the Kings had no hope, no playoff hopes and no real hopes of doing anything big you'd be used to this by now. So relatively im optomistic about the future of the Kings and I'm going to look forward to a year or two from now, when the Kings should be back in the perennial playoff race.

For now we have a young exciting budding superstar in Kmart, we have a young albeit not that athletic bigman, but hes 7'0+ and can score on post up which is awesome in my book. We have a great all around player who is our defensive stopper in Ron who is actually one of the best players in hte league when his game is on and his mouth/bad personality is off.

We just need to get rid of some of the logjams we have at certain positions, thin them down and get our roster balanced and set which is gonna take at least a year or two and we should have another decade of success!!

 

[hiero]

I would not have taken any deal that Geoff is known to have rejected.... not Magette, not Gooden, not Heat scraps, not Radmanovic... none of it.

If I found out that Geoff eschewed an opportunity to unload Brad, Kenny or both (for nothing but cap relief), I would join the mob calling for his head. But I don't know that he missed any opportunities on that front.

Exactly!!! Why trade our players just to get other worthless players. None of the trades that were actually out there made sense for the Kings. Not a single damn one. The David Lee trade was never a possibility so dont even mention that. Theres no way we turned down a trade to get rid of brad/kenny/sar either. People need to relax and realize that your team is not going to the playoffs every single year for the rest of your life, and that any team in professional sports is going to have ups and downs. On a positive note, this gets rid of a lot of the fake bandwagoner fans that we got during the years of bigtime success we had.

 

[VF21]

I'm a lone wolf, I am satisfied with Geoff's patience.

I have not always been, I was clamoring to get rid of Brad and KT no matter what most of the summer.

But maybe dumping those guys now is a compromise... a failure of sorts. Maybe we do simply have to wait for our ship to come in in 2009 or 2010, whenever these horrible contracts naturally expire.

Maybe dumping guys now is an "instant gratification" that is just as bad or worse as doing a MLE deal like Mikki's.

I am a happy Kings fan looking forward to going to the games.

The constant nagging constant constant constant chinese water torture constant constant constant complaining has grown so tiresome.

I would not have taken any deal that Geoff is known to have rejected.... not Magette, not Gooden, not Heat scraps, not Radmanovic... none of it.

If I found out that Geoff eschewed an opportunity to unload Brad, Kenny or both (for nothing but cap relief), I would join the mob calling for his head. But I don't know that he missed any opportunities on that front.

Move over, lone wolf. I'm in the same pack.

I'm not that distraught over what happened this summer as I pretty much expected us to take baby steps. We did get Hawes and, despite how many people feel, I think Moore can add something positive to the mix. I think his arrival was an indication that KT is NOT going to be an integral part of the team, even if we're stuck with his contract for a while longer. It is what it is...

I've heard, too, that a number of the guys have been working out at the practice facility as something they wanted to do themselves and not something they were told to do. And, if the rumors/reports are true, Brad Miller may be coming into training camp in the best condition we've seen in a long, long time.

This is gonna be a fun team to watch. And if we can have fun while we climb back up from the bottom, it's all good...at least for me.

 

[BudWright]

Francisco--you would be surprised at how many agree with you. It was interesting reading this summer (my first) with all the complaining about everything; the team, the coach, Petrie, the Maloofs yet I didn't see one idea to solve the problems that was REALISTIC. Everything is not perfect, but it is what it is and we are looking forward to the season too. Go Kings--Annie (and Bud too).

 

['89 Kings Fan]

if any of the fans here actually remember the old mitch richmond days, or the days when the Kings had no hope, no playoff hopes and no real hopes of doing anything big you'd be used to this by now. So relatively im optomistic about the future of the Kings and I'm going to look forward to a year or two from now, when the Kings should be back in the perennial playoff race.

If you mean fighting for the 8th seed maybe. But that is all we can hope for with this roster. That is why most fans were hoping for a plan, and the obvious plan is tank for Derrick Rose and trade any vets for picks that we can.

The West:

1st Tier
Dallas - Dirk/Howard
Houston - Yao/Tmac
Phoenix - Nash/Marion/Amare
Portland - Oden/Roy
San Antonio - Duncan/Parker
Seattle - Durant/Green
Utah - Deron/Boozer
Denver - Carmelo/A.I.

2nd Tier
Lakers - Kobe
Hornets - Paul/Peja/Chandler
Memphis - Conley/Gasol/Darko
Minnesota - Jefferson/Foye/Etc.
Warriors - Davis & Company
Kings - Bibby/Artest/Martin

3rd Tier
Clippers - MASH unit

What makes anyone think we are making the playoffs with this roster? We are going to have another 30-35 Win season going nowhere.

 

[chelle]

I'm a lone wolf, I am satisfied with Geoff's patience.

I have not always been, I was clamoring to get rid of Brad and KT no matter what most of the summer.

But maybe dumping those guys now is a compromise... a failure of sorts. Maybe we do simply have to wait for our ship to come in in 2009 or 2010, whenever these horrible contracts naturally expire.

Maybe dumping guys now is an "instant gratification" that is just as bad or worse as doing a MLE deal like Mikki's.

I am a happy Kings fan looking forward to going to the games.

The constant nagging constant constant constant chinese water torture constant constant constant complaining has grown so tiresome.

I would not have taken any deal that Geoff is known to have rejected.... not Magette, not Gooden, not Heat scraps, not Radmanovic... none of it.

If I found out that Geoff eschewed an opportunity to unload Brad, Kenny or both (for nothing but cap relief), I would join the mob calling for his head. But I don't know that he missed any opportunities on that front.

I with you on this as well.

 

[hrdboild]

You can scratch Portland from your first tier. Oden's out for the year. (Don't know that they would have been there anyway). Seattle is mighty questionable as a playoff pick at this point as well. I'd say Golden State and one of Hornets/Lakers/Grizzlies round out the top 8. We've got a shot at that 8th spot too with all our veteran "leadership".

 

[LA King Fan II]

Fighting for 8th would be cool if it was done with style. Instead of the same drab squad as the last 3 years. If Bibby makes every 30 footer and Miller Makes every 20 footer they'll be competitive. Otherwise the season will be a replay of previous fodder. Artest attempting to take over late, Miller getting dunked on, Bibby expending all his energy on offense and zero inside game. Standing, one-on-one and launching. Same ol. A product without style or speed.

Most exciting moment easily last year was Price's dunk, and he is long gone. I'll be more than shocked if Hawes electrifies.

They failed. What we see is less than we deserve as fans.

Wait until we get a look at Abdul Rahim's vertical on his 2007-2008 version of his jump heave. Thomas on one of his patented follow misses. Again, we needed to keep Bibby, Artest, Martin, Garcia, Douby and Salmons -- explain that one more time when defending the plan at hand????

 

[VF21]

Same drab squad as last year? Nope. Not even. We're gonna see a lot more of Douby and Garcia, we'll have a chance to see Justin and Spencer, we won't see Corliss at center. We most likely won't see that much of Kenny Thomas and it's possible SAR will see limited play. I haven't heard even a whisper about him this whole summer so I have no idea if he's even around yet.

If you think there's zero chance of seeing a product without style or speed, I think you're misreading the situation. Reggie Theus is gonna make a difference.

This isn't a championship team, by any means, but it is a team in transition. If we see better chemistry than last year, I'll be pleased. If we see more involvement and effort by the veterans, I'll be pleased. If we don't see Musselman on the sidelines, I'll be pleased. Look at that. One out of three and the season hasn't even started.

There is room for cautious optimism if you're willing to admit that you probably won't be seeing a WCF in Arco in the near future.

 

[bench_blob]

What a miserable miserable summer.

There is not a single Kings fan, homer, realist, pessimist, win now type, rebuild type, whatever, who entered this summer hoping to have the almost exactly the same team back. For the second summer in a row too I might add. Just a complete failure. But at least I hope Geoff has a nice vacation in Spain. Maybe he'll stay there.

With so many of the league's drab franchises turning the corner on their rebuilds and stocking up on young studs this summer, I wonder if there is any more unappealing concoction in the NBA right now (to anybody not in Sacramento). Perhaps the Clippers with the loss of Brand. Reminds me of the good ole days of the Kings/Clips axis of incompetence.

Miserable, miserable summer? Getting rid of Mussellman was addition by subtraction. You obviously fail to realize the significance of this. Unloading star caliber players (Bibby, Artest, Miller) when their trade value is at all-time low would not equate into a productive summer, IMHO.

The team is not good (35 to 40 win based on talent alone), this is true, but every post you made as far I could discern would have resulted in the Kings taking two steps backwards with the dubious possiblity of taking three steps forward in the unforseeable future.

This team could suprise you. Team chemistry counts for a lot, and we had none last year. I don't have super high hopes for this year, i.e. deep playoff run, but I expect a lot of exciting games and players who will bring it, and a team that can compete every night....if we traded away Bibby and Artest for the garbage (enders, 1st rounders) proposed, we could not even hope for this.

And it could be worse....at least our first round pick is not out for the year (see Blazers)

 

[bench_blob]

Same drab squad as last year? Nope. Not even. We're gonna see a lot more of Douby and Garcia, we'll have a chance to see Justin and Spencer, we won't see Corliss at center. We most likely won't see that much of Kenny Thomas and it's possible SAR will see limited play. I haven't heard even a whisper about him this whole summer so I have no idea if he's even around yet.

If you think there's zero chance of seeing a product without style or speed, I think you're misreading the situation. Reggie Theus is gonna make a difference.

This isn't a championship team, by any means, but it is a team in transition. If we see better chemistry than last year, I'll be pleased. If we see more involvement and effort by the veterans, I'll be pleased. If we don't see Musselman on the sidelines, I'll be pleased. Look at that. One out of three and the season hasn't even started.

There is room for cautious optimism if you're willing to admit that you probably won't be seeing a WCF in Arco in the near future.

Exactly.

 

[JoMama]

Paint me cautiously optimistic.

 

[LPKingsFan]

Best case scenario:

Kings do well under Theus and surprise some people coming out of the gate. Overachieve for the first month. Artest looks strong and sharp on the court, and stable off it.

Meanwhile, things get dismal and dreary in NYC. Z-Bo and Eddy Curry don't mesh well, and the team is underachieving again. The sex trial becomes a major distraction, and Isiah Thomas needs to make a move to shake things up--other than firing himself. Knicks agree to trade David Lee, Renaldo Balkman, Malik Rose and expirings for Artest and Kenny Thomas.

I'll be a happy camper then. Now? Not so much.

 

[SacTownKid]

Move over, lone wolf. I'm in the same pack.

I'm not that distraught over what happened this summer as I pretty much expected us to take baby steps. We did get Hawes and, despite how many people feel, I think Moore can add something positive to the mix. I think his arrival was an indication that KT is NOT going to be an integral part of the team, even if we're stuck with his contract for a while longer. It is what it is...

I've heard, too, that a number of the guys have been working out at the practice facility as something they wanted to do themselves and not something they were told to do. And, if the rumors/reports are true, Brad Miller may be coming into training camp in the best condition we've seen in a long, long time.

This is gonna be a fun team to watch. And if we can have fun while we climb back up from the bottom, it's all good...at least for me.

The pessimist in me keeps thinking all that added size/length will somehow manage to be buried behind KT/Shareef. I really do hope not however.

 

[CaminoChaos]

One thing that came to mind is if Petrie waits one more year maybe Theus's souped up offense will increase the trade value of our bigger contract (Brad, Mike, Reef). Perhaps he is convinced that a run and gun offense will increase the scoring therefore making our guys look better that they really are and making them easier to get rid of.

 

[ninjabiscuit]

Me too.

I'm a lone wolf, I am satisfied with Geoff's patience.

I have not always been, I was clamoring to get rid of Brad and KT no matter what most of the summer.

But maybe dumping those guys now is a compromise... a failure of sorts. Maybe we do simply have to wait for our ship to come in in 2009 or 2010, whenever these horrible contracts naturally expire.

Maybe dumping guys now is an "instant gratification" that is just as bad or worse as doing a MLE deal like Mikki's.

I am a happy Kings fan looking forward to going to the games.

The constant nagging constant constant constant chinese water torture constant constant constant complaining has grown so tiresome.

I would not have taken any deal that Geoff is known to have rejected.... not Magette, not Gooden, not Heat scraps, not Radmanovic... none of it.

If I found out that Geoff eschewed an opportunity to unload Brad, Kenny or both (for nothing but cap relief), I would join the mob calling for his head. But I don't know that he missed any opportunities on that front.

You can add me to your group as well. I understand why some people are down on this team, but I'm hoping they do well. Maybe there haven't been as many changes as we would have liked, but there have been changes, most notably the removal of what I would consider a bad coach and the addition of some bigger bodies.

No, we did not get some other team's second best player in exchange for an Almond Joy and some sofa lint, but let's call off the suicide watch, huh?

I don't see any point in becoming depressed about a changed team that you haven't even seen yet. Let's give them a chance.

 

[Bricklayer]

The pessimist in me keeps thinking all that added size/length will somehow manage to be buried behind KT/Shareef. I really do hope not however.

Your pessimist may be correct, although we will see.

But he would also be missing the obvious -- we didn't actually gain any size/length. Or at least none that actually plays like size/length. You could have an 8ft tall player out there, but if he grabbed 3rebs a game and blocked less than a shot it would be of marginal utility. The whole point of size is to be able to do things that normally only very big people are able to do -- rebound, block shots, intimidate around the rim, don't allow people to shoot over you etc. Justin can do that, but his prospects for significant minutes look very poor at this time with 4 contracted vets ahead of him as well as a lottery pick. Hawes is 19, was a lousy rebounder and insignificant shotblocker in college, and repeated that performance in summer league. He should be able to score inside, but then so can Reef and so could Corliss, and you can see how many wins that adds once its divorced from rebounding and defense.

And then there is our big FA acquisition. A 32 year old man coming off a career year in a contract year. Big flashing warning lights may go up now. And his numbers during the banner year:

19.7min 9.1pts 3.3reb 0.6ast 0.4stl 0.2blk 1.4TO

Oh wait, damn....those were Corliss's numbers. My bad, I meant:

25.2min 9.9pts 5.0reb 1.4ast 0.7stl 0.5blk 1.5TO

Oh...

Crap, those were Shareef's numbers! Damnit! I really meant:

26.4min 9.8pts 5.1reb 0.9ast 0.6stl 0.8blk 1.4TO

Yeah, that's the ticket. Obviously changes everything.

 

[Bricklayer]

One thing that came to mind is if Petrie waits one more year maybe Theus's souped up offense will increase the trade value of our bigger contract (Brad, Mike, Reef). Perhaps he is convinced that a run and gun offense will increase the scoring therefore making our guys look better that they really are and making them easier to get rid of.

repeated mistaken assumption made on here btw.

Essentially Muss has become a boogeyman, so that in the face of rampant incompetence and inaction from the front office, we merely blame all the woes of the team, and likely world, on Muss, and make him ito the worst of everything. That way all we have to do is replace him and its magic! Woohoo!

Case in point: Muss did NOT run a slow it down offense last year. Having to switch to 82 games.com rather than my old fave databasebasketball (who had apparently quit updating), last year Muss's team was in the top 10 in points at 101.3, and had 95 possessions a game. That is compared to 92 the year before, 94 the year before, 95, 94 etc. etc. His "slow it down walk it up Eastern Conference offense" was every bit as fast as anything we have run here since the golden years.

What made it ugly was a) the disgusting flopfest that formed the backbone of our "strategy" and zapped all rhythm and pace from the game; and b) that like almost all bad teams who score a lot of points, it was a lot of hooey. You can always score a lot of points if you uptempo enough, the problem is that the other team is coring many more back the other way. Thus we scored 101.3, but give up 103.

Reggie Theus isn't going to magically get this team to score 110, at least not without giving up 120 back the other way. Which come to think about it would probably actually feel like the good ole days for him, so you never know. But in any case, in any reasonable system we've got maybe, MAYBE 2 or 3ppg to be added per game, and that only at the risk of being right there as most scored upon team in the league. There is going to be no magic doubling of everybody's scoring averages just because the evil Muss had taken his playbooks and left town.