What would you offer Bonzi?

What Would You Offer Bonzi?

  • Four Years at $9M per

    Votes: 53 52.0%
  • Four Years at $11M per

    Votes: 11 10.8%
  • Five Years at $9M per

    Votes: 31 30.4%
  • Five Years at $11M per

    Votes: 3 2.9%
  • Six Years at $9M per

    Votes: 3 2.9%
  • Six Years at $11M per

    Votes: 1 1.0%

  • Total voters
    102

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Let's assume that he will take, at minimum, a four year deal. I think that even that is stretching it, but we'll throw it out there. What kind of deal would like to sign him for, and at what point do you pull the S&T? I think $9M per is reasonable for the Kings, but $11M per is what he and his agent will be looking for. I'm curious as to what people think his true value is. I see alot of messages which insist on signing him, but at what price?
 
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That is WAY too much. I'd rather just S&T him after seeing that he'll want 10 mill and at the least 9. He only deserves what he's making right now. You don't pay 30 year old SG 11 million per year for 13/6(what his numbers will probably be next year). Especially when you have Kevin Martin, Bibby, then Artest to re-sign.
 
i really really really want him back but it might be alot of $ he's asking for...

i say give him what he deserves, but if he's asking for to much, sign and trade him cause i don't want to lose him for nothing...
 
Realistically, what team is going to pay Bonzi Wells $11mil a year? I mean, who? I'm not seeing it, let alone among the teams with actual cap room.


5yrs at $9mil should be close to market.
 
I'm thinking he's going for 6 years @ 9m. He says he wants to retire here (or any team he ends up with), so he'll probably want the longest contract possible.
 
NONE!!!

I love Bonzi but not for a 4 year-36million dollar contract. that is way too much. Cutino Mobley got 9 million a year, and I guarantee you that he is not giving the Clippers equal value. He will be traded at some point.

VIVA KEVIN MARTIN!!! :D
 
The market value for a quality starter at SG position in this league is $9M/year. There is no way you are going to get Bonzi cheaper than that.
 
coolhandluke said:
The market value for a quality starter at SG position in this league is $9M/year. There is no way you are going to get Bonzi cheaper than that.


Exactly!!!!!We have to understand that bonzi is a quality starter....and there is no way.....you are going to get bonzi cheaper than that.....
 
All I would ask is what would you have given him before the playoffs. Not that he didn't have a good season, but would you still feel comfortable investing so much money into a player of Bonzi's age and character before his series. Granted the playoffs will drive up his asking price but 6 games is a lot to bet on, especially when you have an entire career of questionable behavior behind it. I like him, but a sign and trade sounds pretty good. I know Indiana is interested and they have a lot of nice role players where we could add depth. Even a trade like Bonzi for Foster, Johnson and Jones would benefit both teams and not handicap us for the future.
 
Well his agent is expecting too much, because $11M is too pricey I mean Bonzi is good and all, but I definitely go with $9M. There is no way $11M.
 
People keep mentioning his playoff performance like that is the only reason we would resign him. He matched his career numbers last year except for rebounding and steals which were up. We know what we will get with Bonzi and he should be solid for another 3 years. If we give him a 5 year deal, his contract will be close to expiration when he slows down and shouldn't be that hard to move or will likely accept less minutes at that point. Gamble worth taking IMO
 
This is why teams are in financial hardship.

Year Team GMs MPG FG% FT% 3PT% RPG APG SPG BPG PPG
01-02 POR 74 31.7 46.9 74.1 38.4 6.0 2.8 1.5 0.3 17.0
05-06 SAC 52 32.4 46.3 67.9 22.2 7.7 2.8 1.8 0.5 13.6

Bonzi signed a 4 year 28.5M deal after his 2001-2002 season in Portlad where he was a star, and was improving, if you compare the numbers what on that list (minus the rebounds) do you see as reason for a raise and longer contract.

He played well at the end of the year, and rebounded like a monster, but you have to realize we had no other rebounders down there, so he is in position to get more boards when you have your center and PF at the top of the key.

Teams sign players (ala Jerome James) that go off for a short period of time when there history shows other wise.

I would offer Bonzi a 3 year deal with a team option for 4 in the 8 million dollar range. This is fair value, and quite honestly it may be overpaying, because for that kind of money you need a consistent game changer, not a rebounded defensive 2 guard that shoots 22% from downtown.

But with all that being said, I would like him back, just not at the expense of the future of the franchise.
 
macadocious said:
This is why teams are in financial hardship.

Year Team GMs MPG FG% FT% 3PT% RPG APG SPG BPG PPG
01-02 POR 74 31.7 46.9 74.1 38.4 6.0 2.8 1.5 0.3 17.0
05-06 SAC 52 32.4 46.3 67.9 22.2 7.7 2.8 1.8 0.5 13.6

Bonzi signed a 4 year 28.5M deal after his 2001-2002 season in Portlad where he was a star, and was improving, if you compare the numbers what on that list (minus the rebounds) do you see as reason for a raise and longer contract.

He played well at the end of the year, and rebounded like a monster, but you have to realize we had no other rebounders down there, so he is in position to get more boards when you have your center and PF at the top of the key.

Teams sign players (ala Jerome James) that go off for a short period of time when there history shows other wise.

I would offer Bonzi a 3 year deal with a team option for 4 in the 8 million dollar range. This is fair value, and quite honestly it may be overpaying, because for that kind of money you need a consistent game changer, not a rebounded defensive 2 guard that shoots 22% from downtown
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But with all that being said, I would like him back, just not at the expense of the future of the franchise.

first off, the kings aren't going to take into consideration what you think the team needs at the starting 2 guard position. secondly, 3 years, 8 million? that's not much more then he's making now. bonzi has made it very clear that he wants to return to sacramento, and would gladly retire here. but he also expects the maloofs to give him what he deserves, and thats gonna be a long term contract.

i don't understand why people are so hung up on this bonzi wells issue. it seems incredibly clear to me. you have a team full of utter charmin ultra-softies, and then you bring in bonzi wells and ron artest, and you have an incredibly tough pairing that any team would consider a daunting mismatch. ben wallace (who is approaching 32, by the way) is going to get the max from some team, most likely detroit, and this guy doesn't have an ounce of offensive talent in him. he's explosive, and if he catches the ball within a few feet of the basket, he's golden. but other than that, there isn't a redeeming offensive quality in him. he can't shoot, from the field or the line. he can't pass. he's not a particularly great ball handler, though he is athletic for his size and muscle mass. point is, he's a defensive machine, and he's gonna earn the max. bonzi wells is no ben wallace, but we're also not talking about giving bonzi the max. and let's not even talk about jerome james. there is no comparison. its not even close. we're talking about giving an incredibly solid and dependent scrapper a well-deserved raise. end of discussion.
 
I would offer Bonzi 3 year 27 mil. 8mil the first year, 9 the second, and 10 the third.

The way I see it, K-Mart is the future, and after next year the job is his (if we keep Wells that is). If Wells is gone than the job is K-Marts next season.
 
Circa_1985_Fan said:
I think 5 years @ $9 million, with an option for a 6th sounds pretty good.

5-6 years is too long imo. He's not too old, but middle aged, and relies highly on brute strength and his quickness. Both will diminish as he ages, and he doesn't have the type of game (I.E a jump shot, good post moves) to continue being productive once he slows down.
 
sdballer said:
...I like him, but a sign and trade sounds pretty good. I know Indiana is interested and they have a lot of nice role players where we could add depth. Even a trade like Bonzi for Foster, Johnson and Jones would benefit both teams and not handicap us for the future.
I don't think so.

What people fail to realise is that more often than not, the team that does the signing and then trading of a player ends up with pretty much a dud deal.

If we go down the sign and trade path there is no way we would get anything equal to bonzi in terms of quality. We will obviously get his value in a bunch of big contracts given to bits players. Thats not a way to go about it.

Signing and trading is almost never a win win situation.

Best case scenario is to sign Bonzi to a reasonable contract in terms of length and money and see where it goes. With a reasonable contract you can always find a taker in a trade. Signing Bonzi is a must.

I do find it rather ironoc that every year fans say that giving that much money to a player is just too much. Fact is, market determines the price and if you just keep saying thats too much and we should spend that much on player X, then you end up in the lottery. Obviously there is a limit on haw far we should go but losing Bonzi would possibly be the worst thing that this franchise could do at this point in time.
 
For what it's worth, Cuttino Mobley signed a 5 year, $42 million deal with the Clippers last season. Bonzi is likely to be in the same range.
 
SacKings384 said:
5-6 years is too long imo. He's not too old, but middle aged, and relies highly on brute strength and his quickness. Both will diminish as he ages, and he doesn't have the type of game (I.E a jump shot, good post moves) to continue being productive once he slows down.
I agree...but I think the 5-6 years is probably what HE will be seeking, since he, much like Ron, says he doesnt want to move again, and wants to retire, and make sure he retires here...I think thats why he would probably ask for 5-6, I would LIKE him to agree to a 4 year deal...maybe there could be options for BOTH of the last 2 years of a 6 year deal.
 
He should get more than the mini as he played real well in the playoffs.

I hope we can keep him here so the Kings can make the playoffs like they always do.

Go Kings
 
Padrino said:
first off, the kings aren't going to take into consideration what you think the team needs at the starting 2 guard position. secondly, 3 years, 8 million? that's not much more then he's making now. bonzi has made it very clear that he wants to return to sacramento, and would gladly retire here. but he also expects the maloofs to give him what he deserves, and thats gonna be a long term contract.

i don't understand why people are so hung up on this bonzi wells issue. it seems incredibly clear to me. you have a team full of utter charmin ultra-softies, and then you bring in bonzi wells and ron artest, and you have an incredibly tough pairing that any team would consider a daunting mismatch. ben wallace (who is approaching 32, by the way) is going to get the max from some team, most likely detroit, and this guy doesn't have an ounce of offensive talent in him. he's explosive, and if he catches the ball within a few feet of the basket, he's golden. but other than that, there isn't a redeeming offensive quality in him. he can't shoot, from the field or the line. he can't pass. he's not a particularly great ball handler, though he is athletic for his size and muscle mass. point is, he's a defensive machine, and he's gonna earn the max. bonzi wells is no ben wallace, but we're also not talking about giving bonzi the max. and let's not even talk about jerome james. there is no comparison. its not even close. we're talking about giving an incredibly solid and dependent scrapper a well-deserved raise. end of discussion.

First off, the team isn't gonna take into consideration what you, me, or macadocious thinks the team needs at the starting two guard position. But we all can sure post our opinions!

That said, 3 years, 8 Million per doesn't sound too bad to me...although he'll probly want a lot more than that. As for having a team full of charmin softies...you are right! Especially in the frontcourt where we could use Bonzi in a sign and trade to snag us a solid defender. A couple of ESPN experts have said that Bonzi is this year's Jerome James. He's def. better than JJ, but what they mean is that he has dramatically improved his contract status based upon his improved play for six games, in which the Kings went 2-4. He's gonna get overpaid by someone more than likely. Throw in Bonzi's age, injuries, off season issues, past seasons play, his style of play and how age will affect it, and the emergence of our younger shooting guards and IMHO, I don't think it is as incredibly clear as you think. I just think we should trade something we have a surplus of (SG), for something that we need like a defensive PF or C.

Big Ben isn't getting the max by the way either...not a chance...and definitely not from Detroit...
 
I don't know what to offer. I JUST WANT HIS *** OVER HERE NEXT YEAR. Or as many people say a sign and trade for a set of good players will be also good.
 
He could have my Subaru Forrester and put it in the trunk of his escalade in case he needs a car that's ok to get dirty to go off-roading.

I don't know what I'd really give to keep him. All I know is he's vital to the team's success NOW, whereas Martin more vital for the future. So, the Kings should do whatever they can (within reason) to keep him!

I don't think Martin is 100% ready for the every day starting spot. So, let him develop 1-2 more seasons off the bench, and then he'll become the starter after Bonzi begins to slow down. Peja always showed potential his first 2 years, but he took 2 years to truly develop into an everyday starter...Martin should get about the same.

Based on the track record of the Kings' front office, I feel he'll be here for the rest of his career. Since this ownership has been here, every time we've had a potential high-priced free agent that played well for us the year before that we had to keep, we've signed him to a multi-year deal: CWebb, Bibby, DC, Brad Miller, etc. The MAloofs and Petrie will get the job done.

As the sign at Arco says: "In Petrie We Trust."
 
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