What is the #1 Need for the Kings?

bajaden

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#91
I agree wholeheartedly. I think the #1 need on the team ultimately boils down to coaching and player development. Think of everything we've been mentioning recently:

BBIQ
Team Defense
Fundamentals
Intangibles

These are the things that coaches need to teach the players, but there has been little to no evidence that the players have really come along in those departments.
Really? Is it that you think the coaching and training staff aren't trying to do their jobs. or, they're incapable of doing their jobs, or, that the players are incapable of learning? You again made a general statement. Lets get specific shall we? If I accept that what you said is true, then who is the blame? Management for not providing proper training? Lets see, you have a fairly large group to choose from.

Head coach: Luke Walton
Asst. coach: Igor Kokoskov
Asst. coach: Bob Beyer
Asst. coach: Jesse Mermuys
Asst. coach: Roy Rana

Then you also have this next group of assistant coaches in charge of player development.

Bobby Jackson
Stacey Augmon
Lindsey Harding
Will Scott
Rico Hines

So let me ask you this. In the off season, where is it that a large majority of NBA players go to work on their game? They go to LA and work with a man who is widely regarded as one of the best trainers in basketball. His name is Rico Hines, who by the way, the Kings hired as an assistant coach in order to give their players the best there is full time. So are we blaming Rico for this so called lack of fundamentals. Maybe, just maybe, it's because the team has had very little on court experience with one another. We had Bagley for a whole 15 games. Holmes was hurt. Fox missed a fair share of games. We had a trade before the deadline bringing in new players.

We switched Buddy from starting to coming off the bench. We had Giles, who hardly played for most of the season now starting. If you don't think any that affects the result on the floor your nuts. It's not helpful to have a new face next to you on the floor every time you turn around. At this point we don't even know how Bagley fits on the team. How many changes will have to be made offensively and defensively for him to fit in, if any?

The problems the Kings have are complicated, and this past season didn't answer all the questions that needed answering. But it doesn't have to do with the lack of fundamentals as much as it does with having everyone on the floor together long enough to get familiar with each other. There is no substitute for in game experience where there is very little predictability. Or, do you think all those coaches and trainers I listed above, all of whom who have had success elsewhere, are now incompetent?
 
#92
I know what you mean, but not sure it's fair to characterize Theis as a wing. And which Williams are you referring to?

The Rockets might be an even more extreme example, having abandoned any pretense of playing a big in order to start and play several switchable wings.

This ultimately gets back to the Bagley question, though. If you are willing to play Bagley major minutes at the 5, you should look to add another 3/4 type in place of a big. If you're playing Bagley mostly at the 4, though, and you're keeping Bjelica and also playing Barnes at the 4 some (as Walton was doing more and more as the season went on), are you ok with your wings being mostly of the 2/3 variety since there aren't minutes at the 4 anyway?
Grant Williams. I took out Rob who is also 6’9” since he isn’t a shooter.
 
#94
Is Vlade playing Bleacher Report Fantasy GM?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndic...melo-wiseman-more-in-2020-mock-draft.amp.html


12. New Orleans Pelicans (via Kings): RJ Hampton (New Zealand Breakers, PG/SG, 2001)

After trading Nickeil Alexander-Walker during B/R's GM Week, the Pelicans could be looking at Hampton, a more explosive athlete with similar combo skills. Behind Lonzo Ball and Jrue Holiday, the 19-year-old will have time to work and develop his playmaking feel and three-point shooting.
 
#96
I was looking at their squad listed on NBA.com. Theis and Robert Williams III are listed as Foward-Center.

To be honest I seldom watch the C’s and don’t know much about these two.

https://www.nba.com/teams/celtics
Both are listed at 6'8" but play much bigger. Neither would be consider a wing. It would be like calling Chuck Hayes a wing since he was 6'6". He played much bigger than that.

I'd love to have Williams III. I think he's going to be a great defensive player.
 
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How about Beal? Just got started in his prime and can create offense for others which we need not too many 30/4/6 guys or what I think he’d be closer to 25/5/5 last year. We’d probably have to give up Buddy/Bagley/1st for him though but I’d do it.
I’d do it too. Combine Buddy and Bagley into a single elite player, and then keep Baze and Len to fill in the holes. Not sure what Washington’s asking price would be, though, and the fact that could opt out in 2022 is a bit concerning.
 
With the hit that BRI is going to take, I bet there will be some big names, even MVP candidate types, available this summer. And, we may not have to attach Bagley to get them. It’s just going to come down to how bold Vivek is willing to be.
 
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How about Beal? Just got started in his prime and can create offense for others which we need not too many 30/4/6 guys or what I think he’d be closer to 25/5/5 last year. We’d probably have to give up Buddy/Bagley/1st for him though but I’d do it.
if you could get Beal without dealing Fox and Bagley preferrably although unlikely, you do it in an instance. Include a draft pick or two as well if you must.
 
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How about Beal? Just got started in his prime and can create offense for others which we need not too many 30/4/6 guys or what I think he’d be closer to 25/5/5 last year. We’d probably have to give up Buddy/Bagley/1st for him though but I’d do it.
Ive thought about this scenario. Last I heard Beal is not the happiest camper in Washington and Buddy has had issues here. Beal is younger than Buddy so would make a nice time line with Fox. Hopefully Bagley will be fine but a trade like this would erase any questions, in my mind, that we picked the wrong player.
 
Let me get this straight. You guys are proposing that we trade Hield and Bagley for Beal? And Beal can walk on us after one season?
I believe he signed a max extension through the 2021-22 season with a player option 2022-23. So I think we would have him for at least two years.
Not thinking it could actually happen but I wouldn’t mind a backcourt of Fox and Beal at all.
 
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The #1 need is to see Bagley play. Full stop.

The personnel decisions and direction to take the team are so much easier after we see him in his 3rd season.

If he stays the way he is (limited to the inside on offense, not a reliable shooter, can’t reliably guard Cs, can’t play good defense, can’t protect the rim) then he’s a bench player at best and a bench warmer at worst and we shouldn’t even consider him part of the core (hence he shouldn’t even be considered when determining what our biggest personnel needs are).

If he significantly improves just one aspect Of his game (shooting, ability to guard Cs, ability to play good defense, ability to protect the rim), then you likely have a better sense of where to take this team.

The GM inside me wants to run through all the hypothetical trades In the world, but realistically, we need to know what we have in Bagley first.
 
I believe he signed a max extension through the 2021-22 season with a player option 2022-23. So I think we would have him for at least two years.
Not thinking it could actually happen but I wouldn’t mind a backcourt of Fox and Beal at all.
Your correct. Beal is signed through the 2021/22 season with a player option for the last year. It's doubtful he would opt out of a 37.2 mil payday, but who knows. Odds are we would have him for the next 3 years. That said, I wouldn't give up both Buddy and Bagley for him.