what do you guys think about corey brewer as a SF signing?

[Big Cuz 15]

he's an UFA. he made 3.2m last year. we might be able to get him for 3-5m a year to start for us. if we could lock him up at like 3y/9m, 3y/11m or 4/12m, 4/14m that would be awesome. he defends, has an ok 3 point shot, real athletic. what do you guys think? he would serve solely as defensive 3 role player for our squad.

i dont know if we will be able to afford iggy with $$$ tied up in hayes, outlaw, salmons, mt. looking forward we can't offer the SF too much $$ because we have cousins, ppat coming up for extensions soon.

cousins/jt
ppat/jt
brewer/cheap FA signing
mac/reke
reke/mcalum

 

[sdballer]

he's an UFA. he made 3.2m last year. we might be able to get him for 3-5m a year to start for us. if we could lock him up at like 3y/9m, 3y/11m or 4/12m, 4/14m that would be awesome. he defends, has an ok 3 point shot, real athletic. what do you guys think? he would serve solely as defensive 3 role player for our squad.

i dont know if we will be able to afford iggy with $$$ tied up in hayes, outlaw, salmons, mt. looking forward we can't offer the SF too much $$ because we have cousins, ppat coming up for extensions soon.

cousins/jt
ppat/jt
brewer/cheap FA signing
mac/reke
reke/mcalum

It really depends on what we do with the rest of the lineup. He isn't a great shooter, rebounder or passer. I personally think there are better options but my preference would be to have a good enough passer/ball handler to support Reke.

 

[Fear the Putin]

wouldnt be surprised if PDA goes after him with the past Denver familiarity.

 

[Castasic]

I would rather have Martell Webster if we are looking at that tier of player.

 

[Gary]

Not a fan of Brewer. I would rather have Chase Budinger, or Jordan Hamilton. We would have to trade for Hamilton though.

 

[Hallama]

Brewer is a good player with the right pieces around him...he's in my tier 2 of possible FA's, but I prefer Barnes at this level. He does fit into a defensive philosophy and not that expensive. But I'm a little tired of MLE level contracts on this team, which to me = mediocrity. If the Kings want to spend some $ on a PF that fits with Cousins that would be ok, but there's not any available imo. Spend some $ on a vet SF, and then let the roster work itself out.

 

[The_Jamal]

Brewer is a good player with the right pieces around him...he's in my tier 2 of possible FA's, but I prefer Barnes at this level. He does fit into a defensive philosophy and not that expensive. But I'm a little tired of MLE level contracts on this team, which to me = mediocrity. If the Kings want to spend some $ on a PF that fits with Cousins that would be ok, but there's not any available imo. Spend some $ on a vet SF, and then let the roster work itself out.

Unfortunately, unless we Amnesty Salmons, MLE is the only contract we can afford in addition to Reke getting his $8-$10 mil extension.

 

[cuad]

Bad.

 

[jalfa]

too small, bad rebounder, terrible shooter. doesn't solve any of the problems that Salmons as SF presents. not exactly who I'd go after.

in order to solve the SF thing, give me any of Barnes, Korver or Wright. they'd be much better fits.

 

[Bricklayer]

Unfortunately, unless we Amnesty Salmons, MLE is the only contract we can afford in addition to Reke getting his $8-$10 mil extension.

There were reasons I was complaining so hard over little moves last year like picking up Jimmer's option and trading away Cisco's ender. That's $8mil in caproom we pissed away, and no budget or not its little things like that that really stain Geoff's late GMing record. Nonetheless, if we trade away more money than we take back we can get in the running. Or alternately, there is a tradition in the NBA of simply signing an outside free agent first, and then using your Bird rights to go over the cap to resign your own.

These are the numbers:

2013-14
Thornton $8,165,000
Salmons $7,580,000
Hayes $5,722,500
Thompson $5,643,750
Cousins $4,916,973
Patterson $3,105,301
Outlaw $3,000,000
Fredette $2,574,120
Thomas $884,293 (team option which I assume was picked up)
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$41,591,937 - 2013-14 salary cap = $58.5mil = $16.9mil more or less.

In addition there could have been qualifying offers to James Johnson $3,950,868, Toney Douglas $3,101,820, and Tyreke $6,927,156, but per Ailene's Bee article of this morning, D'Alessandro did not extend the QOs to Johnson and Douglas so he could keep more cap room.

 

[KingMilz]

Martell Webster>>>>>>Brewer

 

[Gilles]

Interesting what Washington will do, now that they have Ariza and Porter. Will they still try to retain Webster, who is actually a better version of Korver, who many here see as reasonable target for SF position, but with one pretty significant caveat: Webster is prone to get injured. I would rather make a play for Ariza though, who settled lately into a role of stopper/facilitator with some shooting. The last two years Ariza shot .333(on 2.3 shots per 36)/.364(on 5.1 shots per 36) from 3 and .775/.821 from FT line - progress from .290/.625 career numbers before last two years is obvious. After Wall returned and Ariza was restricted to C&S situations it even became ridiculous .415 on 4.8 attempts from three over last 22 games of the season. Unfortunately his team likely saw this improvement as well , so prying him might be difficult even if Porter is good right off the bat - Ariza and Porter can stay on the floor together.

 

[Big Cuz 15]

Not a fan of Brewer. I would rather have Chase Budinger, or Jordan Hamilton. We would have to trade for Hamilton though.

i'm thinking in terms of realistically getting the player. brewer plays better d than chase. hamilton will require something good in return.

Brewer is a good player with the right pieces around him...he's in my tier 2 of possible FA's, but I prefer Barnes at this level. He does fit into a defensive philosophy and not that expensive. But I'm a little tired of MLE level contracts on this team, which to me = mediocrity. If the Kings want to spend some $ on a PF that fits with Cousins that would be ok, but there's not any available imo. Spend some $ on a vet SF, and then let the roster work itself out.

we need to resolve reke's situation first. how much capspace do we have after that? that would work great if we can trade our glut of guards for capspace or a starting caliber SF. i'm not a huge fan of barnes. i read somehwere he's looking for a long term contract.


webster is interesting. how much would it cost to get him?

don't know if we'd want webster in late game situations tho.. lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=PiCmmA97Jrc

 

[LPKingsFan]

Brewer wouldn't be a bad cheap option if we can't manage the likes of Iggy and AK47. Houston just waived Delfino, too, and I've always though he'd be a good fit with his decent (albeit streaky) shooting and defending.

 

[Capt. Factorial]

2013-14
Thornton $8,165,000
Salmons $7,580,000
Hayes $5,722,500
Thompson $5,643,750
Cousins $4,916,973
Patterson $3,105,301
Outlaw $3,000,000
Fredette $2,574,120
Thomas $884,293 (team option which I assume was picked up)
---------------------------
$41,591,937 - 2013-14 salary cap = $58.5mil = $16.9mil more or less.

On top of not extending QOs to JJ and Douglas, we can at any time drop their cap holds (Aldrich, too, and the MLE and Bi-Annual cap holds as well), so whatever our actual cap number is with those holds, we can trivially get rid of them. Obviously Tyreke's cap hold stays, and that's trouble because it's $13.1M until we sign him. According to Sham, IT's contract has vested, so it stays in the calculation, and we also have to add McLemore (cap hold is $2.4M and though traditionally he will be signed for a bit more, we can hold off on doing that until we're done making moves that require cap space). That puts us at $44.5M in salaries (including Ben) and $57.1M in total cap hold. Basically we have no room.

Or alternately, there is a tradition in the NBA of simply signing an outside free agent first, and then using your Bird rights to go over the cap to resign your own.

Cap holds don't work like that, though. We would have to renounce our Bird rights on Tyreke to go straight out and sign Iggy. At that point, we wouldn't be able to get him back without actually creating cap space to fit him in (which could still be done with a Salmons amnesty, a cap-clearing trade, etc.)

With Voisin suggesting that Tyreke's market value is looking to top out at $10M, and apparently contradicting CD's previous tweet that the FO wouldn't match anything over the QO, we might go forward with the idea that we'll sign Tyreke for $10M even. That would put us at $54.5M, with no additional cap holds we couldn't erase with the drop of a hat. But that's only $4M in space. Amnesty Salmons and it's $11.5M in space. So to get Iguodala (as an example) we'd still have to dump salary in a trade - potentially a sign-and-trade.

So as long as we are intent on keeping Tyreke, right now we really have no accessible cap space. There are some ways to make it - some require teams to want to take on more of our salary than they give us back, others hit the wallet a bit (Salmons amnesty) so none are slam dunks, but there's the potential to make it happen.

 

[KingsFanGER]

If the Kings want to play a similar up-tempo style as the Nuggets last season Brewer would be a nice addition. IF we settle for a slower pace on offense i would prefer someone like Webster or Ariza.

 

[MassachusettsKingsFan]

I like Corey Brewer. He's a very good defender. On this team, though ... not the best fit. Not with Evans and McLemore, anyway. At least not as a starter. Make a few other moves and I'm interested.

Now, if we are going after an SF who is a shooter (some have mentioned Martell Webster) I think Dorell Wright is an interesting name with more GSW ties.