What an abysmal offseason.
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When you have curry and looney having nights like they did you are going to loose.
We were hurt and in the second half our offense stunk.
When you have curry making 9 more shots than our combined reserves and Barnes only played like 14 or 15 minutes so looneys 21 rebounds had to come against someone else also.
There was plenty of blame to go around and to only score 42 points in the second half anybody in the nba should of torched us.
We were hurt and in the second half our offense stunk.
When you have curry making 9 more shots than our combined reserves and Barnes only played like 14 or 15 minutes so looneys 21 rebounds had to come against someone else also.
There was plenty of blame to go around and to only score 42 points in the second half anybody in the nba should of torched us.
Next year I'd bet the kid gloves are off. If the Kings need defense in the starting unit, Sasha vastly outplays someone, Monk is vastly outplaying Huerter, etc. Brown could very well be at a point where he just starts pushing his rotation one way or another. In the playoffs he did. The players that were given the full on green light were Fox and Domas, that's his ain't touching nothing guys right there.
Haha, look, clearly the Lakers and Suns did. Kings out in the first round. Suns the only team to beat the Nuggz more than a single time and that's with 8 games of experience with Durant and Booker together. THAT'S INSANE! The Lakers all the way to the WCF. Now that might not carry over but Monte can't be ducking his head in the sand either and I'm sure he's not.
I was trying to play it deadpan.
Yeah I like Len. I’m not anti Kessler or Alex. I’m anti not taking advantage of your one opportunity to significantly improve the team. We are now cap constrained and without our first round pick next year. We missed a major opportunity winning orgs don’t miss.
Duarte isn’t long enough to be an effective 2-3 defender. He is going to be fighting with Jones for TD minutes. All you eggs are in the Kessler bucket so we better hope he shoots better.
we really need to start
Domas
Keegan
Kessler
Huerter
Fox
this allows Edwards to take the other teams best 2-3. It frees up Keegan and Huerter depending on match-ups and to bring Barnes off the bench. We shall see if it’s possible.
Duarte isn’t long enough to be an effective 2-3 defender. He is going to be fighting with Jones for TD minutes. All you eggs are in the Kessler bucket so we better hope he shoots better.
we really need to start
Domas
Keegan
Kessler
Huerter
Fox
this allows Edwards to take the other teams best 2-3. It frees up Keegan and Huerter depending on match-ups and to bring Barnes off the bench. We shall see if it’s possible.
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We had the same chance as any of the top 8 teams to win the championship.
The teams that added the "star" or whatever are not going to be better.
I will say this for the umpteenth time... CHAMPIONSHIPS ARE NOT WON ON PAPER!!!
Not to mention we have had a good team for ONE YEAR.. Let these guys grow ffs before we start getting all pissy because we didn't land a star who probably wouldn't make us better. Another thing, who cares about not drafting Prosper? Usually players at his level do not make superstars.
Sabonis is a top 5 center in the league.
Fox is a top 5 PG in the league.
Hueter and Barnes kill it from the outside, and can still light it up if one of our stars is having an off night.
Murray was a rookie yet he was a main contributor on a team that was a top 3 team in the west.
Monk is probably one of the best 6th men in the league right now and he can take over games just like any elite scorer.
Lyles is an awesome stretch 4 and shoots a high 3pt%.
Sasha was the Euro League MV(freaking)P
Duarte can be a good guy off the bench, and like others have said, he plays well with Sabonis.
Davion is a good player when he gets the minutes.
What else can you ask for? It's a good team on paper, and it's a good team on the court. People fixate too much on adding a star player. Then there is one ball to go around I would rather have players that can play together rather than having players that can put up 30 points a game, while alienating his teammates like Allen Iverson did in so many games during his career. The AD and LBJ experiment was doomed to fail, and they weren't even that good when they weren't injured. They just have GS's number like we had the Lakers number. If we beat Golden State we would have easily beat the Lakers in 5 or 6 games.... Saying we were one Barnes 3 away from the WCF is a true statement in my opinion.
The teams that added the "star" or whatever are not going to be better.
I will say this for the umpteenth time... CHAMPIONSHIPS ARE NOT WON ON PAPER!!!
Not to mention we have had a good team for ONE YEAR.. Let these guys grow ffs before we start getting all pissy because we didn't land a star who probably wouldn't make us better. Another thing, who cares about not drafting Prosper? Usually players at his level do not make superstars.
Sabonis is a top 5 center in the league.
Fox is a top 5 PG in the league.
Hueter and Barnes kill it from the outside, and can still light it up if one of our stars is having an off night.
Murray was a rookie yet he was a main contributor on a team that was a top 3 team in the west.
Monk is probably one of the best 6th men in the league right now and he can take over games just like any elite scorer.
Lyles is an awesome stretch 4 and shoots a high 3pt%.
Sasha was the Euro League MV(freaking)P
Duarte can be a good guy off the bench, and like others have said, he plays well with Sabonis.
Davion is a good player when he gets the minutes.
What else can you ask for? It's a good team on paper, and it's a good team on the court. People fixate too much on adding a star player. Then there is one ball to go around I would rather have players that can play together rather than having players that can put up 30 points a game, while alienating his teammates like Allen Iverson did in so many games during his career. The AD and LBJ experiment was doomed to fail, and they weren't even that good when they weren't injured. They just have GS's number like we had the Lakers number. If we beat Golden State we would have easily beat the Lakers in 5 or 6 games.... Saying we were one Barnes 3 away from the WCF is a true statement in my opinion.
Well we can certainly agree on hoping Kessler finds a place in the starting lineup. But even if he doesn't, he's another one of these defensive wings that Monte seems to be stacking up on. I was just a little gobsmacked that someone would think this was such a massive need for us. I joked the other day that Monte is preparing for the day when all NBA players are between 6'5" and 6'8". How these draft picks pan out will certainly be interesting. Could be that Monte sees the same need that you do but chose to go about it through the draft... hoping at least one of those guys pans out. But... we seem to have a monster three and D guy on the roster already in Kessler. I expect him to take a huge leap this year.
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+1,000,000
Seriously, these people can’t make more baseless, ridiculous arguments than they’re already making.
Let’s not forget that, despite his inexperience and wanton hubris in thinking he knew how to GM an NBA team, Vivek spent how much $$$ leading the $535M purchase of the team, building the public/private arena, and the Sawyer property next door?
Dude sure wasn’t cheap WRT what he’s already invested in this city and sure hasn’t allowed elite talent to leave the team because he refused to pay them market value or better.
The Swipa and Domas contracts, along with the arena and ancillary construction, are prime examples proving this “Vivek is cheap” narrative false.
These nonsensical KINGS fans need to talk to Oakland A’s fans to discover what cheap really is.
Seriously, these people can’t make more baseless, ridiculous arguments than they’re already making.
Let’s not forget that, despite his inexperience and wanton hubris in thinking he knew how to GM an NBA team, Vivek spent how much $$$ leading the $535M purchase of the team, building the public/private arena, and the Sawyer property next door?
Dude sure wasn’t cheap WRT what he’s already invested in this city and sure hasn’t allowed elite talent to leave the team because he refused to pay them market value or better.
The Swipa and Domas contracts, along with the arena and ancillary construction, are prime examples proving this “Vivek is cheap” narrative false.
These nonsensical KINGS fans need to talk to Oakland A’s fans to discover what cheap really is.
Exactly.
Not that every rumor/report was legit and real, but there was enough smoke regarding MM’s interest in OG and/or Siakam to believe he was at least looking into it.
Reputable reports were that multiple org’s found it difficult to work with Toronto’s FO.
Clearly the cost was more than MM was willing to pay. That happens a lot, actually.
Not that every rumor/report was legit and real, but there was enough smoke regarding MM’s interest in OG and/or Siakam to believe he was at least looking into it.
Reputable reports were that multiple org’s found it difficult to work with Toronto’s FO.
Clearly the cost was more than MM was willing to pay. That happens a lot, actually.
It's definitely a missed opportunity to add assets when the team has cap space. Then again, this year's FA class is very underwhelming and no one really addresses our deficiencies. Maybe Monte thought instead of giving out bad contracts just to utilize the cap space, it is better to retain tradeable assets and flip them in the future for someone who can actually fill a need for the team? Finding a willing trade partner is not easy though.
I'd also like to know where this supposed star player would have fit within the offense that we didn't sign because of either incompetence by our reigning EOY Monte McNair or Vivek's greedy little hands.
Again, I've still not heard valid suggestions about what you would have done. Gimme the exact scenarios.
The closest thing I've heard is that this offseason was a complete disaster because we didn't get a bench player three and D guy (despite bringing Kessler back and drafting two very three and D type wings, and adding Duarte). It was a disaster because we got B- three and d guys instead of B+ three and D guys. Fire the entire front office.
Again, I've still not heard valid suggestions about what you would have done. Gimme the exact scenarios.
The closest thing I've heard is that this offseason was a complete disaster because we didn't get a bench player three and D guy (despite bringing Kessler back and drafting two very three and D type wings, and adding Duarte). It was a disaster because we got B- three and d guys instead of B+ three and D guys. Fire the entire front office.
Abysmal is a very strong word. I’d say underwhelming.
We’re running it back with a team that did very well last season. We signed everyone to very reasonable contracts and locked up Domas long term. We didn’t address some glaring gaps in the roster, but we didn’t lose any key pieces either, and MAYBE gained some key guys in low risk deals.
Still not a fan of selling the pick, but maybe Jones was the guy they wanted all along, and it made sense in the long run.
I’m definitely underwhelmed, but I don’t think the upgrades we needed were really available this off-season in free agency, and considering that the team has been linked to a lot of trades recently, I’m betting Monte is hoping to make the bigger upgrades through trades.
I do think some other teams got better while we mostly stayed the same, but I’m really REALLY hoping that the continuity and progression of our key players will be enough to see some level of improvement.
We’re running it back with a team that did very well last season. We signed everyone to very reasonable contracts and locked up Domas long term. We didn’t address some glaring gaps in the roster, but we didn’t lose any key pieces either, and MAYBE gained some key guys in low risk deals.
Still not a fan of selling the pick, but maybe Jones was the guy they wanted all along, and it made sense in the long run.
I’m definitely underwhelmed, but I don’t think the upgrades we needed were really available this off-season in free agency, and considering that the team has been linked to a lot of trades recently, I’m betting Monte is hoping to make the bigger upgrades through trades.
I do think some other teams got better while we mostly stayed the same, but I’m really REALLY hoping that the continuity and progression of our key players will be enough to see some level of improvement.