Wells a problem child? The Kings have no hangups with that

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Mark Kreidler: Wells a problem child? The Kings have no hangups with that

By Mark Kreidler -- Bee Sports Columnist
Published 2:15 am PDT Thursday, July 21, 2005

You wonder why the Kings would pursue a serial problem child like Bonzi Wells? Shoot, that's easy: (1) The guy is a genuine athlete, and (2) They're exactly that desperate.

Now, you wonder why the Kings haven't already worked out a solid deal to bring Wells to Sacramento as the starting two-guard? Got that one covered, too.

And the answer is: Shareef Abdur-Rahim.

It's a convoluted thing, and it is nearly encased in all the cross-talk and counterintuition that seem to trail around these kinds of conversations. But Abdur-Rahim, though reported to be all but delivered to the New Jersey Nets, is by no means counted out around the Kings' front offices.

"We're obviously still interested in him if he's interested in us," Kings executive Geoff Petrie said Wednesday. "It remains to be seen."

And it does. It absolutely remains to be seen whether Abdur-Rahim's "verbal" commitment to sign with the Nets, either outright or via a sign-and-trade from Portland, is worth the Internet bandwith that has already been spent blogging on it.

For everything you've heard over the past few weeks - Cuttino Mobley to the Clippers, Kwame Brown to the Lakers, Ray Allen back with the Sonics, all that - it is worth noting that nothing actually has been done yet. The NBA won't allow it until the post-labor negotiation moratorium on signings and trades has been lifted, and Petrie has been told that won't occur until perhaps a week from Friday.

Until then, nothing is set, and anything could happen. And that still includes the part about Petrie working something complicated, such as a multi-player deal with some other team that yields the Kings a trade "exception," which could make an Abdur-Rahim deal work.

The Nets have such an exception, which allows them to trade for the player without having to deal equivalent salary to Portland - critical, since the Trail Blazers have made it known they don't want to take any salary back in the Abdur-Rahim deal, just future draft picks.

The exception also means New Jersey can agree to a trade that might net Abdur-Rahim something closer to $38 million over the life of the contract rather than the $28 million or so that the standard mid-level exception (MLE), available to every team every year, offers over the same span. The Kings, at this point, have only the MLE to spend, worth somewhere north of $5 million to begin.

Petrie isn't saying much, but don't confuse that with inactivity. The Abdur-Rahim conversation is ongoing - and so is the idea of waiting for Memphis to cut Wells loose and then pursuing him with some or all of that mid-level exception. (That would also mark the end of the Mo Evans era, for those keeping score.)

Joe and Gavin Maloof have given Petrie the latitude to spend that money - and, for that matter, there is no specific "tundra out there that they say, 'You can't cross that,' " Petrie said Wednesday. The question is how to get better, and what is the point of spending the loot.

When it comes to Wells, making that case is easier than you'd think, and it goes back to the head coach. Over the years, Rick Adelman has gotten mileage and production out of a whole host of players who either flamed out at previous NBA stops or were judged to be so difficult to coach - or simply so erratic or unpredictable - that they constituted significant risk.

Vernon Maxwell. Jason Williams. Chris Webber. Jon Barry, who arrived in Sacramento with a reputation for prickliness and wound up a beloved local.

Jimmy Jackson. Even Doug Christie had a knock as being hard to coach, though you never saw that during his outstanding years with the Kings.

Adelman's ability to work with these disparate types of players gives Petrie the flexibility to simply consider athletic ability and team fit, which is where Wells comes in.

Wells has burned bridges now at two stops, and he may have reached a career nadir this spring when Memphis coach Mike Fratello benched him for Game 2 of the Grizzlies' playoff series with Phoenix, then ordered him not to come anywhere near the building for Game 4.

Since Fratello has no use for him, Memphis will decline the $8 million option on Wells' contract. And Petrie ought to be waiting for him, with most of that MLE to spend.

Wells can be a first-class knucklehead, but much of his unhappiness over the years can be traced to playing time (a career average of fewer than 23 minutes per game). If he starts for Adelman, that's no issue - and what Wells gives the Kings in return is a player who can make a shot, post up a defender and crash inside.

Wells meets the team's need to get more athletic and more versatile; he can play shooting guard or small forward. Abdur-Rahim is the more obvious scoring talent, but then Abdur-Rahim is likely to require more money to secure it.

Wells is the better value, and he spares Adelman the agony of starting either unproven Kevin Martin or rookie Francisco García. That alone ought to be worth $5 million to Adelman, if not his boss - but that's only if Abdur-Rahim doesn't get here first. The Kings figure themselves to be still in that conversation. It's the one worth having.
 
G_M said:
Joe and Gavin Maloof have given Petrie the latitude to spend that money - and, for that matter, there is no specific "tundra out there that they say, 'You can't cross that,' " Petrie said Wednesday. The question is how to get better, and what is the point of spending the loot.

good to know

G_M said:
Wells is the better value, and he spares Adelman the agony of starting either unproven Kevin Martin or rookie Francisco García. That alone ought to be worth $5 million to Adelman,

Pathetic
 
The best thing I got out of all of that was that maybe the Maloofs have opened the pocketbooks once again, which would be a very good thing.

Do think if we try to get too cute and play a waiting game with Bonzi, that somebody(maybe even the f-ing Clippers) is going to steal him. Have no idea what this mega-Shareef deal is Geoff is trying to weasel out, but it can't involve ALL of the trading pieces we might use to get Bonzi, can it? Am at least glad we are thinking of trying to nab him with the MLE though, because that means that we are thinking of him long term, not as a one year patch and glorified salary dump.
 
I agree, Bricklayer, I found that article heartening that Petrie is trying to work the magic and the Maloofs know that success next year won't come cheap.

As for Bonzi, I'm really hoping that the guy just wants some playing time at the right price. He's in the prime of his career, and that's an eye-popping stat that his career minutes average is below 23. I'm sure the Clipps will throw money at him and who knows where Bonzi's loyalty lies, but if he wants PT in a good fit, the Kings have a great show at him for the MLE.
 
Bricklayer said:
Do think if we try to get too cute and play a waiting game with Bonzi, that somebody(maybe even the f-ing Clippers) is going to steal him.

Do you know what they can offer? Do they still have their MLE? Do they still have cap room after Mobley? I'm too lazy to do the math!
 
If the Kings immediate future is based on the acquisition of Bonzi Wells, it is going to be a very long season. I still think Petrie may be shopping the core trio, perhaps all of them. That would be the kind of information that you would want to keep very close to the vest.
 
G_M said:
Do you know what they can offer? Do they still have their MLE? Do they still have cap room after Mobley? I'm too lazy to do the math!

Were under the cap and so would not have the MLE, but I am unclear on how much space they have left now with Simmons out, Mobley in, and Jaric's status still uncertain. Not to mention their draft pick.

But if it comes down to MLE time, that's really risky. DETROIT still has its MLE and is rumored to be interested in Bonzi. Championship contender. Old pal Rasheed. His kind of attitude. We'd have to depnd on the minutes being paramount or risk just being out-flashed.
 
The Clippers went into free agency $16 million under the cap. Mobley signed for a $7-8 million starting salary, so they still have a good $8-9 million or so to use, plus the MLE (not that Sterling would ever go over the cap).
 
Brickie, can a multi-team trade be done involving the Blazers AND Grizzlies with SAR and Bonzi coming to Sac? Just curious. Both those guys would solve a lot of issues with the team. Again, I see no defense being addressed, but points would be scored in groves. Unless of course you go for a Peja for Artest deal in the future. Also werent Bonzi and SAR teammates in Portland? Did they get along there?
 
quick dog said:
If the Kings immediate future is based on the acquisition of Bonzi Wells, it is going to be a very long season. I still think Petrie may be shopping the core trio, perhaps all of them. That would be the kind of information that you would want to keep very close to the vest.

I agree about maybe one of them, but definitely not all. Miller is probably the only one whos got more chances to stay put. Big guys with his scoring ability are hard to find, even though hes a defensive liability, if you put defensive pieces around him, its almost like you don't care after that.
 
PFFFT!! said:
Brickie, can a multi-team trade be done involving the Blazers AND Grizzlies with SAR and Bonzi coming to Sac? Just curious. Both those guys would solve a lot of issues with the team. Again, I see no defense being addressed, but points would be scored in groves. Unless of course you go for a Peja for Artest deal in the future. Also werent Bonzi and SAR teammates in Portland? Did they get along there?

They never played together. Bonzi was traded earlier in the season, and SAR was brought in by sending away Rasheed Wallace a few weeks before the trade deadline.
 
So, if we can do a ST with Memphis we can get Bonzi for $8 mil without competing with the rest of the league for his services. But Memphis doesn't want salary back unless we give them one of our big guys, like Brad, which I assume we won't do UNLESS GP has another big man lined up in a trade to take Brads place. Plus, Memphis has said that they want this all done by Saturday so I guess we'll find out something by then. And SAR has a verbal commitment to NJ for either the MLE for 5 years or a ST with Portland for more money but NJ doesn't want to give Portland their 2nd round pick and Portland doesn't want salary back either. So I guess GP isn't sitting on his hands as some have suggested. Good luck Geoff...hope you snag both.
 
The Clippers went into free agency $16 million under the cap. Mobley signed for a $7-8 million starting salary, so they still have a good $8-9 million or so to use, plus the MLE (not that Sterling would ever go over the cap).

The Clips don't have the MLE, it is only provided to teams that enter the offseason already over the salary cap.

This article almost hints at the idea that it is either Wells OR Abdur-Rahim for the Kings. If that's the case, I suppose I'd rathe have Wells as he better fits the direction that I think the Kings need to go.

On the other hand, I wouldn't be completely disappointed if we added both. I've been favoring a Peja for Chandler deal and I think it would work out well in concert with adding Wells and SAR. I'd even be more receptive to that tired old horse of Peja for Artest if Wells and Reef were added. Sure, SAR is soft at the four, but with some toughness on the wings I think that is balanced out.

Anyway, it's just nice to see some signs of life from the Kings front office. Hopefully something comes to fruition in terms of improving the team.

One last note, I knew "Bonzi" wasn't his real name because they recalled on draft night that his mom nicknamed him after her favorite treat, Bon-Bons. Any guesses as to Wells' real first name. Don't cheat now. . .
 
They don't have the MLE. YOu lose that if you're under the cap by an amount = or more than the MLE



nbrans said:
The Clippers went into free agency $16 million under the cap. Mobley signed for a $7-8 million starting salary, so they still have a good $8-9 million or so to use, plus the MLE (not that Sterling would ever go over the cap).
 
Outside of the quotes from Petrie, this article seems pieced together from all the internet rumors, although it seems that GP indicated he is exploring all his options with Wells and SAR. I don't think it indicates an either/or situation, I think it indicates that the Kings are hoping to grab Bonzi for the MLE and swing a trade with Portland for SAR, since the Kings can offer (in theory) more for SAR than Jersey is willing to, thus Portland will try to intice Shareef to go to Sac for better pay, and everyone wins (except the Nets, but honestly, it's New Jersey. Who cares?)

What I got out of this was, a lot is trying to get put together to grab those two, but a lot is out of Geoff's hands, so some waiting is going on.
 
PFFFT!! said:
Brickie, can a multi-team trade be done involving the Blazers AND Grizzlies with SAR and Bonzi coming to Sac? Just curious. Both those guys would solve a lot of issues with the team. Again, I see no defense being addressed, but points would be scored in groves. Unless of course you go for a Peja for Artest deal in the future. Also werent Bonzi and SAR teammates in Portland? Did they get along there?

Bonzi is a good defender, so it'd be addressed.
 
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Would be neat to have both SAR, and Wells here..

Miller
SAR
Peja
Wells
Bibby

With a traded Jackson/Thomas for Wells
 
Gary said:
Would be neat to have both SAR, and Wells here..

Miller
SAR
Peja
Wells
Bibby

With a traded Jackson/Thomas for Wells

That's a very good team, but it still lacks the defense to go any further than we have been. Bonzi's a good defender and a tough guy, but he's not a game changer who elevates a whole team of softies. Step in the right direction though -- if he doesn't implode.

IF we were to get Bonzi, I can actually imagine scenarios where if we get our hands on a difference maker on defense at PF and some defensive roleplayers that maybe its enough. With Bibby/Peja/Miller, we just can't afford any more players of the same ilk.
 
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Well If what Realgm is reporting is true Portland and NJ have agreed to a sign and trade I wonder if Petrie pulls the trigger on the wells trade. Unless hes just gonna wait and see if memphis lets him go.
 
captain bill said:
Outside of the quotes from Petrie, this article seems pieced together from all the internet rumors, although it seems that GP indicated he is exploring all his options with Wells and SAR. I don't think it indicates an either/or situation, I think it indicates that the Kings are hoping to grab Bonzi for the MLE and swing a trade with Portland for SAR, since the Kings can offer (in theory) more for SAR than Jersey is willing to, thus Portland will try to intice Shareef to go to Sac for better pay, and everyone wins (except the Nets, but honestly, it's New Jersey. Who cares?)

lol :D
 
Bricklayer said:
That's a very good team, but it still lacks the defense to go any further than we have been. Bonzi's a good defender and a tough guy, but he's not a game changer who elevates a whole team of softies. Step in the right direction though -- if he doesn't implode.

IF we were to get Bonzi, I can actually imagine scenarios where if we get our hands on a difference maker on defense at PF and some defensive roleplayers that maybe its enough. With Bibby/Peja/Miller, we just can't afford any more players of the same ilk.

Roleplayers to fill in the gaps could make the difference. I remember when we had VLADE, MILLER, PEJA, CHRISTIE, BIBBY.. We would get out to HUGE leads, yet still give up 100 points a game because the other team would always climb back into the game. We would be up 15 after the first half, than be fighting at the end because we lacked defensive stoppers. If we had roleplayers to fill in the gap on the defensive end we would have been unstopable that year.

That is the major flaw I see n Adleman. He is too quick to put back the starters into the rotation. There are times when you need to let the defensive players do some work, and not worry about the offensive flow of the game. He sees us scoring 10 points in 8 minutes and thinks the sky is falling. However he fails to realize the opposing starters/bench has scored 10-12 in that same stint and we still have the 10 point lead rather than the starters in the game and us scoring 20 in that 8 minute stint while the other team scores 25-30 while vanquishing our lead. Sure the offense is there but at the expense of our lead we had built. That is where I can see a lineup like Tag, Skinner, Peja, Wells, Jackson doing some damage.
 
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