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Ailene Voisin: WNBA is a product well worth watching
By Ailene Voisin - Bee Columnist
Published 2:15 am PDT Sunday, September 18, 2005

Take notes, boys, and take (or buy) a seat. This is not about you. This is about women. Women's work, women's history, women's rights.

But if you are brave enough to risk a glance - or better yet, spend a few bucks - you might get a clue about the WNBA and gain an insight into championship basketball.
Mike? Peja? Rick Adelman?

You need to see this.

The WNBA Finals between the Monarchs and Connecticut Sun can be characterized by exhilarating moments and dramatic sequences that, as recently as a decade ago, women only dreamed about. The reality is exactly what it is. The footage exposes everything. The Monarchs have introduced Sacramento to competitive women's basketball at its highest, most intense level, and done so with a beguiling blend of old-school fundamentals and new-age athleticism.

This game is too good; it won't be a niche sport forever. It's all there to be celebrated: The suffocating pressure defense. The exhausting efforts. The textbook fast breaks. The scintillating passes. The drop steps, bank shots, three-point shots. One dramatic shot after another.

Yet nine years into its existence, the league confronts problems both real and imagined, some pertaining to perception, others relating to ticket sales and television ratings. The fan base remains both the great divide and the great unknown. What are the most viable markets? Are the demographics aiding or misleading? Where are the brilliant marketing schemes of the NBA? Why aren't more games televised on ESPN?

Where are all the men? The Kings?

With the exception of Jerry Reynolds, assistants Elston Turner, T.R. Dunn and families, they are noticeable only by their continued absence at Arco Arena. There are no big brothers supporting little sisters, or for that matter, lending credibility to a WNBA crowd that flattened out with an average regular-season attendance of 8,184.

Nonetheless, the Monarchs by early Saturday had sold 13,425 tickets for today's Game 3 of this best-of-five Finals. Additionally, while television exposure remains woefully inadequate, ratings and viewership on ESPN2 increased during the regular season, and perhaps more importantly, jumped 33 percent for the first two games of the Finals.

"The main reason there isn't even more interest is because men control the media," insists Billie Jean King, still the conscience of women's sports, while in town for the World TeamTennis final. "We need (newspaper) space. Horses and dog shows get almost as much as we do. One of the advantages of TeamTennis is that it involves men and women, and men are only interested if it's in their arena. But we need men to be our allies, and we need women to buy season tickets. We can't do this alone."

No argument there - but good luck. For reasons sufficiently complex to warrant clinical evaluation in a more academic forum, an undercurrent of resentment is pervasive within the male-dominated sports industry. The cheap shots and low blows are unabating. The attitude toward the WNBA - toward women's sports in general - is often dismissive, often demeaning, sometimes downright mean.

And the sniping isn't restricted to the blustery sports talk shows that appeal to an overwhelmingly male audience, but rather, extends to newspapers that routinely ignore women's events (see USA Today) or criticize a sport (WNBA) without doing their research or providing historical context.

"I don't understand it," said ESPN analyst and Hall of Famer Nancy Lieberman, frowning. "They don't have to like us, but we're only nine years old. Why do we have to be compared with the NBA all the time?"

The WNBA's woes, in fact, are not altogether dissimilar from those that plagued the NBA in the early 1980s. You want comparisons? Perspective? Check out Cleveland, Indianapolis, Salt Lake City, Los Angeles (Clippers), New Jersey and Chicago, among other places, where it was common to see 3,000 or 4,000 fans dispersed within 18,000-seat arenas.

"I still get comments from people who say, 'You love the Monarchs, but they only draw 9,000 a game,' " said Reynolds, the former Monarchs general manager, "and I say, 'Yeah, well, 9,000 is more than the Kings used to draw in Kansas City, which is why they are now Sacramento's Kings.' "

Leave it alone for a while.

Let the league breathe.

Better yet, lend an ear.

"Back in the 1960s," King recalled, "when the ATP was in its beginning, I asked Arthur Ashe and Cliff Drysdale if they were going to include women. They said 'No, nobody will pay to see girls play.' I think we proved them wrong. But we could have done this 30, 40 years ago."

You women with an ATM card?

You men with daughters?

You Kings who remember the Lakers?

If you want to see athletes take the big shot, coaches demand defense, guts under pressure and even graciousness in defeat, watch the Monarchs and the Sun these next two games. Then talk to me.

The Bee's Ailene Voisin can be reached at (916) 321-1208 or avoisin@sacbee.com.

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Am I the only one who wonders at what point the sports editor decided to make the WNBA a "point-counter point" issue? To see this article after yesterday's hit piece by Breton sure looks like it was completely planned to get the fans riled up...

At this point, it doesn't matter however. The main thing is to have FANS in the seats ready to cheer on the Monarchs.

I do have to admit, however, to ... gulp ... agreeing with Voisin about one thing. Where are the Kings? I would like to see a couple of them there to root on their counterparts. Hopefully we'll see it today...along with a Monarchs victory.
 
Kingsgurl said:
Well, the ones who used to attend, we traded. Bobby and Chris were the Kings most often in attendance.

So the rest of them don't know the way to Arco????

;)

Seriously, if I was Adelman I would have already been on the phone to the guys, telling them there was something very strange and unusual going on in Arco today - the home team was going to play DEFENSE!!!!

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Well, maybe if there were more celebrities who show up to the games! Maybe the Governator? Or Eddie Murphy (who has --- or still have --- a home in Granite Bay)?
 
So the rest of them don't know the way to Arco????
Peja doesn't 'do' basketball at home, so I don't see him coming, do you? Is he even in town? Kevin is probably at the practice facility or watching his tape of Rip Hamilton;) Who else is in town?
 
Kingsgurl said:
Peja doesn't 'do' basketball at home, so I don't see him coming, do you? Is he even in town? Kevin is probably at the practice facility or watching his tape of Rip Hamilton;) Who else is in town?

Peja attend? So he can see MORE people who play defense better than he does?

If Francisco isn't busy feeding the multitudes with one fish, I'm sure he could attend...

;)

StevenHW - I believe Eddie Murphy sold his home in Granite Bay. And it's not the celebrities that are going to make the difference anyway, IMHO. If I never saw another "celebrity" at a basketball game I would be perfectly happy.
 
VF21 said:
http://www.sacbee.com/content/sports/story/13584579p-14425385c.html

Ailene Voisin: WNBA is a product well worth watching
By Ailene Voisin - Bee Columnist
Published 2:15 am PDT Sunday, September 18, 2005

Take notes, boys, and take (or buy) a seat. This is not about you. This is about women. Women's work, women's history, women's rights.

But if you are brave enough to risk a glance - or better yet, spend a few bucks - you might get a clue about the WNBA and gain an insight into championship basketball.
Mike? Peja? Rick Adelman?

You need to see this.

LOL. She couldn't help herself. She HAD to mention Rick Adelman, even if it's just an article about the WNBA. AV, you just slay me sometimes.
 
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VF21 said:
So the rest of them don't know the way to Arco????

;)

Seriously, if I was Adelman I would have already been on the phone to the guys, telling them there was something very strange and unusual going on in Arco today - the home team was going to play DEFENSE!!!!

1118.gif


Maybe thats why Bibby has been there the last few years. Getting some tips on his D?!

Nahhhhh ..... Some would've actually rubbed off him;)
 
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I've heard Koz mention that Bibby was a Monarchs game several times this season. Bibby has been to alot of Monarchs games. Not as many as BJax but hes been to many.


< sighs > I see the Wicked Witch of Sactown is at work again:rolleyes:
 
I was very touched to see BJax still showing up even though he isn't a King anymore. He was a very dedicated WNBA game attendee while he was here, and it looks like he will continue to do so regardless. When JWill was a King, he was also a regular attendee of WNBA games. CWebb was as well, and was always on his feet cheering them on when they triumphed. I also remember Peja used to go to the games, but I don't know if he's even in town during the off-season anymore, I don't think that he is. He and Ticha were good buddies, and I remember him rushing to be at her side when she was injured once. I am sure that with the game possibly being history-making tomorrow night, that more Kings will be there.
 
There were some Kings there- what do you want the whole team? Does the whole Monarchs team show up to Kings playoff games? Most of the players aren't even in town. I would bet money that Brad is in Indiana right now. A lot of the players leave Sac for the summer. The criticism seems a bit unfair...
 
Bobby Jackson use to attend alot of Lynx games when he was a TPup.

Up til about 2 years ago, Jimmy Jam, Terry Lewis use to have courtside seats for the Lynx and went to most of the games. There is a guy that goes to alot of the games, I don't know his name, I know he was in the group Next. Kevin Garnett goes the games, he has brought Rashad McCants a few times, THud (troy hudson from TPups) has been sited. Ron Artest has been a few Lynx games this season as well.
 
Part of HaynieGopherfan's post about NBA players at WNBA games:
...Kevin Garnett goes the games, he has brought Rashad McCants a few times, THud (troy hudson from TPups) has been sited...

Last season (2004), I went to a Monarchs/Lynx game at Arco. The scoreboard video camera turned to Kevin Garnett, who was sitting courtside. The public address announcer said something like, "Sitting along courtside, Kevin Garnett of the Minnesota Timberwolves!" The Monarchs fans in the stands gave him a polite applause.

I knew that Garnett goes to Lynx' home games, but at the time, I remembered thinking, "Kevin Garnett goes to Lynx games, even on the road? Now, I am impressed!"

:cool:
 
Hmm I did not know that one, that he went to away games. I've met Kevin a few times, he is really a great guy. He enjoys basketball, he's a basketball fan in general. Glad Kevin supports the Lynx, since not many people do now days.

Go Monarchs, get the job done tomorrow. Beat the Sun.
 
Rain man said:
There were some Kings there- what do you want the whole team? Does the whole Monarchs team show up to Kings playoff games? Most of the players aren't even in town. I would bet money that Brad is in Indiana right now. A lot of the players leave Sac for the summer. The criticism seems a bit unfair...

May I ask to whom your comments were addressed?

:confused:
 
Most of the Monarchs players can't come to the Kings playoffs because they have contracts to play in other countries, so they can make enough to feed feed their families and plan investments for their financial futures.........
 
As a matter of fact I do believe most of the Monarchs do attend the playoff games because they usually coincide with their training camp opening. They also do attend their regular season games when they are in town. The Monarchs, unlike their Kings counterparts, don't make enough money that this can be their only gig, so they spend their offseason "working" by playing in their leagues overseas - so they are rarely here in the States, let alone in CA. Kara Lawson attended just about ever home Kings game because she worked for the television broadcast team.

The players on the Kings who truly were passionate about the W are no longer with the team. Bobby Jackson comes regularly to the games, Gerald Wallace was at just about every Monarchs home game and has continued following the league by attending games in Charlotte. Cuttino Mobely was a huge fan of the W in Houston, and hung there regularly with Moochie Norris who also still is a season ticket holder (purchased, not comped) with the Comets. Bibby and Martin hung out with the M's last post season. Ostertag also came pretty regularly with his kids when he was here. Scot Pollard also used to come rather frequently as did Jason Williams. Vlade and Peja would come when their camp was open.
 
Part of Monty'sBiggestFan's post:
As a matter of fact, I do believe most of the Monarchs do attend the playoff games because they usually coincide with their training camp opening. They also do attend their regular season games when they are in town. The Monarchs, unlike their Kings counterparts, don't make enough money that this can be their only gig, so they spend their offseason "working" by playing in their leagues overseas - so they are rarely here in the States, let alone in CA...


During the Monarchs' pre-season training camp earlier this year, the Sacramento Bee published an article about two Australian players, Hollie Grima and Carly Wilson, who were invited to try out with the team. Neither of them made the team, but they did get a few perks during their time there: they got the V.I.P. treatment and second-row seating at both Kings playoffs games at Arco this year. It must have been very exciting for them, because it gave them a taste of the NBA atmosphere and what it means to make it in the WNBA.

Click on the below weblinked article, and the Kings bit is near the end of it. But it is an interesting article overall!

http://www.sacbee.com/content/sports/basketball/monarchs/story/12839840p-13689643c.html

:)
 
VF21 said:
http://www.sacbee.com/content/sports/story/13584579p-14425385c.html

Ailene Voisin: WNBA is a product well worth watching
By Ailene Voisin - Bee Columnist
Published 2:15 am PDT Sunday, September 18, 2005

Take notes, boys, and take (or buy) a seat. This is not about you. This is about women. Women's work, women's history, women's rights.

But if you are brave enough to risk a glance - or better yet, spend a few bucks - you might get a clue about the WNBA and gain an insight into championship basketball.
Mike? Peja? Rick Adelman?

You need to see this.

The WNBA Finals between the Monarchs and Connecticut Sun can be characterized by exhilarating moments and dramatic sequences that, as recently as a decade ago, women only dreamed about. The reality is exactly what it is. The footage exposes everything. The Monarchs have introduced Sacramento to competitive women's basketball at its highest, most intense level, and done so with a beguiling blend of old-school fundamentals and new-age athleticism.

This game is too good; it won't be a niche sport forever. It's all there to be celebrated: The suffocating pressure defense. The exhausting efforts. The textbook fast breaks. The scintillating passes. The drop steps, bank shots, three-point shots. One dramatic shot after another.

Yet nine years into its existence, the league confronts problems both real and imagined, some pertaining to perception, others relating to ticket sales and television ratings. The fan base remains both the great divide and the great unknown. What are the most viable markets? Are the demographics aiding or misleading? Where are the brilliant marketing schemes of the NBA? Why aren't more games televised on ESPN?

Where are all the men? The Kings?

With the exception of Jerry Reynolds, assistants Elston Turner, T.R. Dunn and families, they are noticeable only by their continued absence at Arco Arena. There are no big brothers supporting little sisters, or for that matter, lending credibility to a WNBA crowd that flattened out with an average regular-season attendance of 8,184.

Nonetheless, the Monarchs by early Saturday had sold 13,425 tickets for today's Game 3 of this best-of-five Finals. Additionally, while television exposure remains woefully inadequate, ratings and viewership on ESPN2 increased during the regular season, and perhaps more importantly, jumped 33 percent for the first two games of the Finals.

"The main reason there isn't even more interest is because men control the media," insists Billie Jean King, still the conscience of women's sports, while in town for the World TeamTennis final. "We need (newspaper) space. Horses and dog shows get almost as much as we do. One of the advantages of TeamTennis is that it involves men and women, and men are only interested if it's in their arena. But we need men to be our allies, and we need women to buy season tickets. We can't do this alone."

No argument there - but good luck. For reasons sufficiently complex to warrant clinical evaluation in a more academic forum, an undercurrent of resentment is pervasive within the male-dominated sports industry. The cheap shots and low blows are unabating. The attitude toward the WNBA - toward women's sports in general - is often dismissive, often demeaning, sometimes downright mean.

And the sniping isn't restricted to the blustery sports talk shows that appeal to an overwhelmingly male audience, but rather, extends to newspapers that routinely ignore women's events (see USA Today) or criticize a sport (WNBA) without doing their research or providing historical context.

"I don't understand it," said ESPN analyst and Hall of Famer Nancy Lieberman, frowning. "They don't have to like us, but we're only nine years old. Why do we have to be compared with the NBA all the time?"

The WNBA's woes, in fact, are not altogether dissimilar from those that plagued the NBA in the early 1980s. You want comparisons? Perspective? Check out Cleveland, Indianapolis, Salt Lake City, Los Angeles (Clippers), New Jersey and Chicago, among other places, where it was common to see 3,000 or 4,000 fans dispersed within 18,000-seat arenas.

"I still get comments from people who say, 'You love the Monarchs, but they only draw 9,000 a game,' " said Reynolds, the former Monarchs general manager, "and I say, 'Yeah, well, 9,000 is more than the Kings used to draw in Kansas City, which is why they are now Sacramento's Kings.' "

Leave it alone for a while.

Let the league breathe.

Better yet, lend an ear.

"Back in the 1960s," King recalled, "when the ATP was in its beginning, I asked Arthur Ashe and Cliff Drysdale if they were going to include women. They said 'No, nobody will pay to see girls play.' I think we proved them wrong. But we could have done this 30, 40 years ago."

You women with an ATM card?

You men with daughters?

You Kings who remember the Lakers?

If you want to see athletes take the big shot, coaches demand defense, guts under pressure and even graciousness in defeat, watch the Monarchs and the Sun these next two games. Then talk to me.

The Bee's Ailene Voisin can be reached at (916) 321-1208 or avoisin@sacbee.com.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Am I the only one who wonders at what point the sports editor decided to make the WNBA a "point-counter point" issue? To see this article after yesterday's hit piece by Breton sure looks like it was completely planned to get the fans riled up...

At this point, it doesn't matter however. The main thing is to have FANS in the seats ready to cheer on the Monarchs.

I do have to admit, however, to ... gulp ... agreeing with Voisin about one thing. Where are the Kings? I would like to see a couple of them there to root on their counterparts. Hopefully we'll see it today...along with a Monarchs victory.

While I was watching on TV Sunday afternoon, The camera showed Mike Bibby and Bobby Jackson rooting on the Monarchs.
 
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