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Ailene Voisin: Warriors seduce Kings' faithful
By Ailene Voisin - Bee Columnist
Last Updated 12:02 am PDT Thursday, May 3, 2007


In the bars and restaurants. In the cafeteria at the workplace. In the neighborhood. People are crowding around televisions, monitoring the scores and screaming at the outcome.

Kings fans.

Screaming for the Warriors.

For a smorgasbord of reasons -- including that Dallas-Golden State has developed into a wildly improbable and entertaining series that continues with Game 6 tonight, with story lines galore -- Kings fans are masquerading as Warriors partisans, overcoming their own postseason blues and supporting their long-suffering neighbors to the west. And we mean long-suffering.

Sacramentans, in fact, are being awfully good-natured about this. The Bay Area has all that romance and all those beautiful sights, all those restaurants and five-star hotels, and now its upstart NBA franchise ends a 12-year postseason drought? How fair is that?

Meanwhile, Geoff Petrie is searching for more athletic players and a more forceful head coach. The club's marketing officials are enrolled in an introductory course -- Season Ticket Sales 101 -- and relying on Petrie to provide the new identity and new direction. The Maloofs are swallowing $5 million of Eric Musselman's salary and staring at a roster dominated by aspiring retirees. Sneaking a peek at these Warriors doubles the dose of pleasure/pain: Younger and faster, ball movement and body movement, representing the wave of the future and somewhat reminiscent of the old Kings.

Might as well jump on. Everyone else is.

"It's nice to watch the playoffs and not be in agony," Sacramento City Councilman Rob Fong suggested. "If (the Warriors) lose, it's not like we're going into mourning like we would if it was the Kings. But me and all my friends are on the Warriors bandwagon. It's great to see a team that's athletic and small and fun to watch. Plus, Matt Barnes grew up here. Don Nelson wanted to coach here, and we never called back. And Mark Cuban, well, we hate the Mavericks."

At least one of the Maloofs has emerged from his spring funk long enough to appreciate a series featuring one of his archrivals. "It's been great for the league," Gavin Maloof conceded, "and that Nellie's a great coach. In hindsight ... would he have been the right coach for us? Probably. But you never know for sure. You can't look back. The human element isn't an exact science."

No, but Petrie probably regrets not returning Nelson's phone call. Nellie's outsized personality would have squeezed nicely into our small city. Instead, he is guiding a Warriors team that is gaining admirers some 85 miles to the east.

Probe the minds of these sudden Warriors supporters, and you hear similar reasons for the infatuation. There is the proximity between franchises and number of Bay Area escapees in the area. There is the underdog, we-know-suffering-too factor. There is the shared taste for fine food and fine wineries, and the outright sharing of the A's and Giants, the Raiders and 49ers, and the Sharks. There also is a degree of separation anxiety: Whom do you root for with the Kings on the sidelines?

Further attempts to explain this latest basketball buzz took me to several places the past few days, culminating in a final stop late Tuesday night at Biba's Tavern. Diners were overheard exchanging comments like, "How about those Warriors?"

Several crowded around a television at the bar and yelped in disgust when the Mavericks prevailed. One patron hated sports but couldn't stand anything related to Texas. A bartender cited Nelson's job inquiry. A UC Davis student connected the dots to George Bush. "California is mostly Democratic, so people are like, 'Boo, Texas. Go Warriors,' " Squaw Valley native Callie Ewing said.

There are additional reasons to like these Warriors, who probably need to clinch the series tonight if they expect to advance (a seventh game would be in Dallas). Baron Davis has been sensational. The style of play is particularly pleasurable after watching the Kings plod through the 2006-07 season, and that Nelson-Cuban feud is sizzling again. As longtime fan John Seiter noted: "I have used the term 'depressed' to talk about how I felt when the Kings lost to the Lakers and Mavericks, so I'd like to see the Warriors win. And it would be great to see Mark Cuban with egg on his face."

About the writer: Reach Ailene Voisin at (916) 321-1208 or avoisin@sacbee.com.
 
At least one of the Maloofs has emerged from his spring funk long enough to appreciate a series featuring one of his archrivals. "It's been great for the league," Gavin Maloof conceded, "and that Nellie's a great coach. In hindsight ... would he have been the right coach for us? Probably. But you never know for sure. You can't look back. The human element isn't an exact science."

Translation: "@#$){@&@#, somebody messed up!"

Voisin: Yes, but Gavin? It was YOUR family that first wanted Whisenant and then were blown away by Musselman's power point presentation and nicely done scrapbooks.

Gavin: Erm ... uh ... wait. Was that my phone? Gotta go!
 
At least one of the Maloofs has emerged from his spring funk long enough to appreciate a series featuring one of his archrivals. "It's been great for the league," Gavin Maloof conceded, "and that Nellie's a great coach. In hindsight ... would he have been the right coach for us? Probably. But you never know for sure. You can't look back. The human element isn't an exact science."

I'm actually suprised he admitted this.
 
Councilman Rob Fong..."Matt Barnes grew up here. Don Nelson wanted to coach here, and we never called back. And Mark Cuban, well, we hate the Mavericks."

councilman rob fong sounds like he's a bonafide kingsfan.com member. :)
 
The problem is that Nellie isn't really a "defensive" coach. The Warriors just have better overall "defensive" players than the Kings (BD, Pietrus, Beidrins, JRich, etc) do.

IMO, if we got Nellie instead of Musselman, we would definitely be better offensively, but worse defensively- who knows what our record would have been.

All I know is that the team we have now is NOT meshing, and we need to do everything possible to fix it.
 
Defensive-minded coach or not, the Warriors can play some defense. I think the Warriors have struck a chord with demoralized Kings fans because these games have been a lot like our old games. These games are really fun to watch, with energy and excitement. There is nothing wrong with Kings fans jumping on the Warrior bandwagon in the "off season".

I think the Maloofs admitting their hiring mistakes is a good sign.

Go Warriors. Too bad the Lakers have already been eliminated.
 
The problem is that Nellie isn't really a "defensive" coach. The Warriors just have better overall "defensive" players than the Kings (BD, Pietrus, Beidrins, JRich, etc) do.

I think the Warriors play pretty darn good defense, so I think knock on Nellie was overdone. Of course they have some pretty darn good athletes to do it. Hopefully in a couple, three, four, five years...we'll get there.
 
Translation: "@#$){@&@#, somebody messed up!"

Voisin: Yes, but Gavin? It was YOUR family that first wanted Whisenant and then were blown away by Musselman's power point presentation and nicely done scrapbooks.

Gavin: Erm ... uh ... wait. Was that my phone? Gotta go!

Scrapbooks. That's good stuff. :D
 
i think kings fans are united in our disain of mark cuban and the dallas mavs more then we are behind the warriors.

well thats how i feel. FTM
 
For me, it's not really a hatred of the Mav's. Rather the excitment of watching a number 8 seed who hasn't even been to the post season in years, take it to the so called best team in the league.

I'm always a Kings Fan but they've gone home and this is the Play-offs. Somebody has to win and these Warriors remind me of when the Kings were becoming a good, exciting team. A big jump from the doormat they used to be. It's fun to watch but it'll be more interesting to see what direction the Kings take in the off season.

BTW....Do you think there's a conspiracy to have the Mav's win tonight so there'll be a game seven in Dallas? Naw... that stuff doesn't happen.:D
 
For me, it's not really a hatred of the Mav's. Rather the excitment of watching a number 8 seed who hasn't even been to the post season in years, take it to the so called best team in the league.

I'm always a Kings Fan but they've gone home and this is the Play-offs. Somebody has to win and these Warriors remind me of when the Kings were becoming a good, exciting team. A big jump from the doormat they used to be. It's fun to watch but it'll be more interesting to see what direction the Kings take in the off season.

BTW....Do you think there's a conspiracy to have the Mav's win tonight so there'll be a game seven in Dallas? Naw... that stuff doesn't happen.:D


I'm totally with you on this one. Except I also relish the opportunity to watch Cuban suffer. There is nothing more uplifting than watching a billionaire's misery. And to boot, I absolutely hate Charles Barkely and would enjoy nothing more than for him to CHOKE on his words. I mean he actually talked down about the bay area, probably one of the best places to live in the entire United States. I mean someone, tnt or whoever, actually pays that man to go on tv and say stupid ****.

Anyway, as for the c-o-n-spiracy, the nba has different ones than seeing dallas go to 7 games. Conspiracies like the referees and the way they make calls.
 
The problem is that Nellie isn't really a "defensive" coach. The Warriors just have better overall "defensive" players than the Kings (BD, Pietrus, Beidrins, JRich, etc) do.

IMO, if we got Nellie instead of Musselman, we would definitely be better offensively, but worse defensively- who knows what our record would have been.

All I know is that the team we have now is NOT meshing, and we need to do everything possible to fix it.

its not like we had any defense last season either
 
i think kings fans are united in our disain of mark cuban and the dallas mavs more then we are behind the warriors.

well thats how i feel. FTM
Exactly how I feel. Rooted against the Mavs, not really for the Warriors who I have never liked.
 
This is the same defense Nellis has been running since the Run TMC days, he just has alot better defenders to run it now. It's essentially a 2-3 matchup zone, with lots of switching, which is how he would get away with it "most" of the time in the mandatory man-to-man days.

Nellie would not have worked with our roster. His defense would have been a sieve with our guys, and this team has no creator on a level of Davis. Jackson, Barnes, and Richardson are all better and more versatile than anything we have right now. Since the regular season is unwatchable I had missed the emergence of Biedrins, but I can now see the comparisons between him and Noah that the Joakim fangirls have been making, and they have merit. However, we need the dobermans up top at the guard and SF spots before taking a guy like Noah at #10 makes sense. Only Martin/Garcia/Salmons even remotely fit the criteria for this kind of system. Bibby cannot create or defend for anything. Artest is a dubious ballhandler and shooter whose man-to-man defensive prowess would be negated in a system predicated on quick switches and quicker hands.

A Suns/Warriors type of team may win in today's NBA if they play defense the way the Warriors do, so I don't think we need to stick to old strategies. Eventually you would like to have a low-post presence to pair with the dobermans, but that can come from the 1-3 spots in this system. Davis and Jackson are able to overpower defenders down low, acting as a low-post presence in the way that Payton and Jordan used to. What makes it hard to defend is that if you switch to zone to stop it, they'll bomb you right out of it. If you double with a small, they can swing it to the open man for a three. If you double with a big, they are good enough ballhandlers to split it and get to the rack.
 
I really like what Don Nelson has done for the Warriors, but I honestly don't think the results would have been the same if he came to Sacramento.

He fits the Warriors. They have an attitude that responds well to the way he coaches, the ultimate underdog mentality, great at pushing and motivating.

I just don't see with the way the Kings roster is that he would have got the same results as he has with Golden State. It's fun to dream, but ideally I'd want a different coach.
 
I assume that everyone noticed that several Mavericks came over after the game to congratulate Don Nelson. Cuban walked across the court looking pretty grim. of course, Cuban had recently written in his Maverick Blog that Nellie was too conservative. Hmmm.

I would say that Nellie understood Dirk's weaknesses pretty well. Sorry, I can't spell the Dallas "N" word.
 
Anyone who says that Nellie cant coach defense obviously wasnt around for the 80's when he was with Milwaukee...arguably one of the best defensive teams of the last 25 years or so with Paul Pressey, Alvin Robertson, Sidney Moncrief and Terry Cummings. But the game has changed so much since then, understandbly, and Nellie saw that same need for change, and went for the up-tempo stuff.
 
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