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Ailene Voisin: Peja's future is looking murky

By Ailene Voisin -- Bee Sports Columnist
Published 2:15 am PST Friday, December 9,

Except for those occasions when his dark eyes lighten with humor, when he plays off a dynamic sequence on the court or a humorous scene in the locker room, Peja Stojakovic is a closed shop. He refuses to bleed in public. He would never cry in a crowd.

He monitors the vibes all the way from Serbia to Sacramento - lately, the mood has been more brooding than benevolent - and selectively, quietly, exhales a response. Unfortunately for Peja, this league is a very public place that offers very little protection, and right now, his fragile nature is overpowering his once-prolific sense of professional style. He is carrying his protective shield onto the court, playing too carefully, at times playing fearfully. Wincing when driving for layups. Staring at potential rebounds. Ignoring loose balls. Resisting the urge - assuming that it still exists somewhere deep within his psyche - to demand the ball and dictate the outcome, either by creating for others or for himself, especially in the fourth quarter.

Remember the other Stojakovic? The determined small forward who ran sprints along the baseline, converted threes in bunches, knocked in jumpers from the elbows behind Divac's screens? Who amassed enough assists and rebounds to suggest a balanced career on the upswing? Who overcame the tentativeness that hampered his early seasons?

Where did he go?

Where is he hiding?

Against the Houston Rockets on Thursday, the more flattering images reappeared for a few, fleeting stretches in the opening half, when Stojakovic cut sharply off picks, slashed inside for layups, penetrated and persisted and earned his way to the free throw line for seven attempts. He was lively, engaged, his presence again significant. But then in the closing period, when the outcome was there to be secured, the three-time All-Star wilted right along with his teammates, became a co-conspirator in an absolutely indefensible collapse that resulted in a fourth consecutive homecourt loss.

So the heat intensifies, on the head coach, on the best players, on the boss.

Some within the organization believe that Geoff Petrie, frustrated by Stojakovic's inconsistency, coupled with continuing public pressure (and the Maloofs' own visible impatience) to either replace coach Rick Adelman or otherwise alter the club's lackluster dynamic, would finally listen to overtures for Stojakovic, a free agent next summer who will command a huge salary. The latest speculation from outside the building aired prior to last night's Kings-Rockets broadcast on TNT: Charles Barkley reported that the Kings and Indiana Pacers have renewed discussions about a swap involving Stojakovic and Ron Artest.

"Ask Geoff," Kings co-owner Joe Maloof said as he hurried toward his office, knowing that Petrie is as frozen-lipped as a statue.
Pressed about possible personnel moves the other day, Petrie replied tersely, "There are no trades in the works."

Regardless of whether he remains with the Kings, or even re-signs with the Kings, Stojakovic is at an obvious crossroads. The absence of emotion is crippling his career. The obvious lack of confidence is overwhelming his skill. His inability to re-establish himself as a dominant scorer, as a better all-around player than his statistics indicate, undoubtedly is costing him dollars. In a contract year, no less, a time when players often factor points and rebounds into the equation for the next multi-year deal, the eighth-year pro is averaging 17.5 points and 4.3 rebounds, well below his output of 24.2 points and 6.3 rebounds in 2003-2004.

It's as if he never recovered from the change in game plans that occurred when Chris Webber returned in late 2003 and insisted on resuming his role as the primary scoring option - the job capably held at the time by Peja. Instead of ferociously protecting his status and accepting the challenge, Stojakovic, 29, eased into the backup role, too willingly ran and stood in his assigned corner. He lost his swagger, lost his edge, lost what once was ever so close.

"I am not worried about any of that (trades or free agency)," an unusually animated Stojakovic said when asked the other day about his situation. "I am very frustrated with the way I am playing. You know you can do better, and you're not doing it. I go home and watch tapes ... I don't sleep. Laying in the bed, I go through the game, and I know every play. I do my own play by play. I have like a computer in my mind, like it records it. Then I get mad at myself. It's like, 'OK, you missed two shots wide open, you missed a layup wide open.' I have to be more aggressive. I have to go out and do it." It appears, though, that the door to the shop has opened, that the only King with any job security around here is Petrie. And typically, he moves when least expected.
 
Peja for Artest and filler (Gill or Harrison) works. Would certainly make us tougher but would need to keep Adelman to work with Artest and Bonzi's reps.
 
please bring on artest and a good, if not decent bench player.....

i still dont see why we cant trade corliss for anyone..... that makes no sense to me, i would think that a team that is over the cap would love to have corlissover one of their moderately talented overpaid players..... we need a bench like we need air, this averaging a combined 10 points a game **** isnt working.....
 
Isn't it sad, though? What the hell happened? Remember when he was the clear cut best foreign-born player in the league (ignoring Duncan)? He was seen as clearly better than Dirky. I remember the articles comparing him to Bird. He was so damn good. I think Geoff needs to be careful. Peja has been playing poorly and so we feel like he has no trade value, and my initial reaction is to scoff at an Artest/Peja swap. But we can't afford to give Peja up for less than an All-Star because with a change of scenery I think he'll get a lot better. He'll get a lot of open shots with Jermaine O'Neal on the low block and we will get fleeced if we take someone like Stephen Jackson.

I really want Artest, I have for 2 years. But then again...who is our go to scorer? Bibby has proven he can't be THE guy. Artest, I don't think he can pull it off either. It would be interesting to see how it plays out. If we had done it last year instead of dealing Webber I think we are a title contender right now.

Oh well. They gotta fix this, though.
 
piksi said:
Artest is a ticking bomb.

nah, he's just a TRU WARIER.

He'll bring the best rap to the Kings since CWebbs NO DRAMA.
 
What I am amazed with is that AV managed to write a negative article about Peja and yet still managed to make it sound like a love letter to him :)
 
^^^ I noticed that too, along with the usual stab at Webb. Somethings really never change.

What makes people think the Pacers would even consider giving up Artest for Peja???
 
vj9999 said:
What I am amazed with is that AV managed to write a negative article about Peja and yet still managed to make it sound like a love letter to him :)

...and yet, she STILL finds a way to slam Webber.


I just had a brilliant plan.

Ok, so we deal Peja for Artest.

We maybe turn it around, sneak into the postseason. Maybe not, without a true scorer. We get a middle 1st round draft pick and pick Leon Powe (sorry...Cal grad. Very biased)

Then, Miller, Bibby, and Artest all suffer season ending injuries in training camp 2006.

The team goes in the tank and we suffer through a horrible year like the 96-97 (?) Spurs. But, alas! We get the #1 pick in the lottery and draft Greg Oden.

We then have

Bibby/?
Bonzi (re-signed?)/K-Mart?
Artest/Garcia
Powe/Shareef
Oden/Miller

We can then package Miller or Shareef with Skinner/Thomas for some unhappy superstar swingman (T-Mac should be good and tired of Yao by then).

Voila.

haha.
 
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AriesMar27 said:
at least he'd be doing something... unlike peja.....

Like jumping to the crowd and getting into fight with them. Who needs a nut??If doing the trade bring basketball player not an idiot.
 
bball said:
Like jumping to the crowd and getting into fight with them. Who needs a nut??If doing the trade bring basketball player not an idiot.

we should immediately sign peja to a max contract if he did that.... since that would require heart, balls and toughness to take on an entire opposing team's audience.... something that peja lacks....

and if thats the case does that mean that you wouldnt want oneal?
 
I would love to get Artest here. Who wouldn't. I'm willing to give up Peja for anything. But why the hell would Indiana wanna give up a top 10 SF and one of the toughest defenders in the league for a soft shooter who can't do much else. They're trying to conted for a championship and I'm sure they realize that Peja wouldn't be the way to go.
 
AriesMar27 said:
we should immediately sign peja to a max contract if he did that.... since that would require heart, balls and toughness to take on an entire opposing team's audience.... something that peja lacks....

and if thats the case does that mean that you wouldnt want oneal?

I do want the trade, but I don't need stupid people/idiots on this team, and if you appriciate them jumpig into crowd and fighting them, then we are not talking basketball here. There are other sports that involve punching, kicking etc.-not basketball.
 
bball said:
I do want the trade, but I don't need stupid people/idiots on this team, and if you appriciate them jumpig into crowd and fighting them, then we are not talking basketball here. There are other sports that involve punching, kicking etc.-not basketball.

artest raps on the side, and he says he wants to box professionally after his nba career. he had "tru warier" shaved into his head. he's also got a nasty violent streak. he's clearly an idiot. that said, i'd take him for peja in less than a second. the guy is a nutjob, yet he still manages to give damn about every game he plays in, despite all of his off-court distractions. while i think the typical rap-star-misspelling-common-words approach is incredibly tacky, artest is, plain and simplie, a "warier." peja is not. he's not even close. no matter how hard voison tries to paint him in a positive light, peja has never been the warrior the kings needed. the guy who "insisted on resuming his role as the primary scoring option - the job capably held at the time by Peja," was the "tru warier" of the kings. he's long gone, and Charmin UltraSoft remains. that fact is a real injustice to kings fans, if you ask me. ship peja for whatever you can get. i am not a proponent of trading down (ex: webber trade), but, concerning a peja trade, i'd take just about anybody who gives a damn...and that really goes for all of the starters, except bonzi.
 
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AriesMar27 said:
we should immediately sign peja to a max contract if he did that.... since that would require heart, balls and toughness to take on an entire opposing team's audience.... something that peja lacks....

and if thats the case does that mean that you wouldnt want oneal?

I did not know your definition of balls is beating up on someone who's half your size. In that case Artest is ALL balls ;)
 
If we go back to gazillion threads we had about Artest after the fight in Detroit we would find as lot of people saying different things from what they do now.

Hypocrits shall recognize themselves
 
DeAtHrOw said:
I did not know your definition of balls is beating up on someone who's half your size. In that case Artest is ALL balls ;)

No, that is a definition of either "true warrior" or "mental patient."
 
piksi said:
No, that is a definition of either "true warrior" or "mental patient."

Please piksi get it right, Artest will get offended...it's "tru warier" :D
 
piksi said:
If we go back to gazillion threads we had about Artest after the fight in Detroit we would find as lot of people saying different things from what they do now.

Hypocrits shall recognize themselves

see, i dont think its quite that simple. even i was very put off by artest's part in the infamous brawl, but i also honestly thought that i would see more from peja this season. peja still has time to turn it around, but february is only a coupla months away. and if artest becomes available (which i do find unlikely), and a peja for artest trade is viable, then GP would be a fool not to pull the trigger. bonzi wells and ron artest both in our starting lineup? we'd go from one of the softest teams in the nba to one of the toughest, despite bibby's and miller's flaws. artest is a game changer because of his scrappy, tough style of play. a guy like that can turn a season around...put a little fuel back into the fire, perhaps. i find it unlikely that bird would give him up, but it doesn't stop me from thinking about trading the softest SF in the league for the toughest.
 
Anyone else have a feeling Vlade is gonna force Peja to come to the Lakers?
 
Smart_guy3 said:
Anyone else have a feeling Vlade is gonna force Peja to come to the Lakers?

Not particularly, no. And Phil has never really had much use for players of Peja's ilk in his system anyway.
 
Please, please, please let it be true that Indian and the Kings have started talking again. I've wanted that trade to go down ever since I got wind of it 2 years ago. could you imagine Bonzi and Artest on the same side of the floor. :D
 
BK_KingsFan7 said:
I would love to get Artest here. Who wouldn't. I'm willing to give up Peja for anything. But why the hell would Indiana wanna give up a top 10 SF and one of the toughest defenders in the league for a soft shooter who can't do much else. They're trying to conted for a championship and I'm sure they realize that Peja wouldn't be the way to go.


bingo....we have a winner....

kinda ironic...

and the following is all pure speculation...

supposedly some say that the kings refused this swap prior to last season...

now, the pacers will almost certainly be the ones to refuse...

oh what a difference a year makes...

frankly, im shocked this rumor hasnt surfaced before now...

uve got the kings doing what theyve been doing...the peja villifying...the sac fans screaming for a player that artest would exemplify...and artest is off to a banner start and has been on his best behavior...he appears to be a changed person-as many of us thought he would be....

then u have bird saying he would pull the trigger on a trade if he liked it...and JO saying there might need to be changes...

and next thing u know...peja is gonna be traded for artest...

go figure...

as a pacer fan, i fully expect this to be the first of many artest rumors...and i also feel pretty comfortable that none of them will come to fruition...but it should be fun...and it will be nice to see his trade value skyrocket to where it should be versus where it was a year ago...
 
NOTE: This is very interesting. The column taken from the website is NOT the same as the column that showed up on my doorstep this morning. It appears it was edited quite a bit AFTER the "State final" edition of the Bee was distributed. Here's what I READ, with changes in pink:

Ailene Voisin: Peja's future is looking murky
By Ailene Voisin -- Bee Sports Columnist

Except for those occasions when his dark eyes lighten with humor, when he plays off a dynamic sequence on the court or a humorous scene in the locker room, Peja Stojakovic is a closed shop. He refuses to bleed in public. He would never cry in a crowd.

He monitors the vibes all the way from Serbia to Sacramento - and lately, the mood has been more brooding than benevolent - and selectively, quietly, exhales a response.

And this is fine. Not every NBA player has the outsized personality of Vlade Divac, who would chat openly about his underwear, or Doug Christie, whose affectionate gestures to his wife solidified his reputation as one of the leagu'es, uh, independent thinkers.

Nonetheless, this league is a very public place, offering very little protection, and right now, Peja's non-confrontational nature is overpowering his once-prolific professional game. He is carrying his shield onto the court, playing too carefully, at times playing fearfully. Wincing when driving for layups. Staring at too many potential rebounds. Ignoring too many loose balls. Resisting the urge - assuming that it still exists somewhere deep within his psyche - to demand the ball and dictate the outcome, either by creating for others or for himself.

The old Peja? The energetic small forward who busted downcourt, ran sprints along the baseline, completed a terrific secondary break with barrages of three pointers? Who amassed enough assists and rebounds to suggest a balanced career on the upswing? Who overcame the tentativeness that hampered his early seasons?

Where did he go?

Where is he hiding?

The lack of emotion is crippling his career.

His inability to re-establish himself as a dominant scorer, as a better all-around player that his statistics indicate, undoubtedly is costing him dollars, with several league officials, though obsesses with long-range shooters, surprised and perplexed by his stagnating career. In a contract year, a time when players often produce career numbers, factoring points and shooting percentages into the euqation for the next multi-year contract, he is averaging 17.5 points and 4.3 rebounds. Well below his output of 24.2 points and 6.3 rebounds in 2003-2004.

It's as if he never recovered from the change in game plans that occurred when Chris Webber returned and insisted on resuming his role as the primary scoring option - the job held at the time by Peja. Instead of ferociously protecting his status and accepting the challenge, Stojakovic, 29, too easily slid into the backup role, too willingly stood in his assigned corner. He lost his swagger, lost his edge, lost what once was ever so close: entry into the crowd of NBA elite, the group of players who reside just below superstar.

Now, he is getting booed, and more importantly, losing allies within his own building. Some within the organization have wondered how Geoff Petrie would react if the Clippers were to dangle Corey Maggette, or even more tantalizing, if the Chicago Bulls offered Luol Deng in a swap.

"I am not worried about any of that (trades or free agency)," an unusually animated Stojakovic said when asked about his situation Wednesday. "I am very frustrated with the way I am playing. I'm not doing well, and I want to do well to help the team.

"Of course when you miss shots, it is going to hurt your confidence. You know you can do better, and you're not doing it. That's why I'm mad at myself. I know I am better than this. Some games...I just have to play through the stretch. I have to step up, and we as a group have to start believing in ourselves. Of course when you are missing shots, it hurts your confidence. But it's more disappointment because you know you can do better, and you're not doing it. That's why I'm made at myself. I know I am better than this."

But then he concedes, speaking even more forcefully, that he is so troubled by his performances that he has trouble sleeping.

"I go home and watch tapes ...I think about it. I don't sleep. Laying in the bed, I go through the game, and I know every play. I do my own play by play. I have like a computer in my mind, like it records it. Then I get mad at myself.

It's like, 'OK, you missed two shots wide open, you missed a layup wide open.' That's why I get mad at myself. I have to be more aggressive. I have to go out and do it."

It might be too late. The sense here is that Petrie is feeling immense pressure to make a move, either by changing coaches or exchanging one of his better players. It appears the store has opened.
 
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No, I think it mysteriously appeared actually.

The Bee's deadlines for state edition, as opposed for local and web, are much earlier. Somehow the Artest rumor was added on after Voison's initial piece. Most likely after someone in the office saw the TNT show.

The Maloof running to his office part may have been added as early as this morning, as someone from the Bee went to Arco to confirm.
 
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