Voisin: A trade no longer makes sense

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Ailene Voisin: A trade no longer makes sense
By Ailene Voisin - Bee Columnist
Published 12:00 am PDT Sunday, July 15, 2007
Story appeared in SPORTS section, Page C1


Ron Artest was in Africa on a goodwill tour, of all things, when the NBA announced Saturday that the Kings forward would be suspended for seven games for last season's bad acts.

And which particular bad acts were those, you ask? It does get confusing. You need a calendar and calculator to keep up. Brawls. Elbows. Obscene gestures. Failure to ensure that his dogs were adequately cared for during midseason road trips. And in this current, far more egregious incident, his inability to keep his hands off another person -- his wife, Kimsha -- during their much-publicized domestic incident last March.

Following his no-contest plea, he was sentenced to 100 hours of community service and a 10-day work project. The court of David Stern on Saturday followed with the suspension that will take place at the beginning of next season. Additionally, Artest is undergoing counseling and, according to Kings basketball president Geoff Petrie, making unscheduled visits to local animal shelters.

All of which seems like a fair resolution to an ugly situation, and factoring in his repeated mea culpas, it looks and sounds eerily like Ron being Ron.

He does contrition like Bill Clinton. He messes up, sheds a few tears, shakes a few hands. He appears genuinely sincere about recasting his image and, more importantly, about changing his life. He's in Africa on a goodwill tour, for heaven's sake. He tries, he really tries.

In other words, given his complex, convoluted history, some good always follows the bad. He has a script and sticks to it. He plays his best after the brawls, the suspensions, the controversies, the trades. He gets his life and his act together ... for a while.

"Ron is still in his prime," said Petrie, calling on his cell phone from Las Vegas, "and he's getting near the end of his contract. He knows what he has to do. Sometimes it comes down to following your own advice."

Petrie, in fact, has become increasingly resistant to trading his most talented player, the recurring off-court issues and accompanying fan backlash notwithstanding. If far from untouchable -- the only King in that category is Kevin Martin -- retaining Artest in the short term makes too much sense on too many levels, foremost among them talent and salary cap considerations.

In some respects, this Artest-Kings pairing is the perfect relationship: It can end amicably when Artest opts out of his contract next offseason, or the parties can renew their vows and enter into a long-term commitment. (Don't bet the season tickets on that one.)

But right now Artest needs the Kings, and the Kings, who are rebuilding with a rookie coach and a swollen, unwieldy salary cap situation, absolutely need Artest. Or if not Artest, than a better-behaved equivalent and/or coveted future lottery pick. The stakes are high. By next February's trade deadline, when contenders become greedy, his value will be even higher.

Petrie has every reason to be patient and picky. Who in their right mind would give away the one player on the roster who can transform a game completely and alter a season (see 2006)?

The Kings have plenty of role players. Too many role players. What they need are stars, and preferably, at better prices. Indeed, Artest's 2007-08 salary ($7.8 million) is almost laughable when compared with most of his teammates'.

Brad Miller, for instance, who is chronically out of shape and uninspired, his productivity having diminished significantly since his two All-Star seasons in Sacramento, will earn $10.5 million. Mike Bibby, who remains miscast as a primary playmaker, is on the books for a ghastly $13.5 million and $14.5 million over the next two years. Kenny Thomas' earnings escalate from $7.3 million to $8.5 million in 2009-10.

At least when Artest is present -- OK, when not suspended, pursuing his rap career, or otherwise engaged in whatever -- work ethic and on-court contributions are never the issues. He arrives early and stays late for practice. He performs even when less than 100 percent healthy. And at public appearances and in a Kings locker room that, within the league, is regarded as one of the most unaccommodating and inhospitable, the Queens, N.Y., native is surprisingly accessible and cooperative.

"I like Ron," Petrie said. "I don't like some of the things he does. But you have to keep trying to help him."

And the team? Who helps the team?

Artest will help the team. He will improve the defense, respect Reggie Theus (he thought little of Eric Musselman), and well into another season, behave on and off the court. He will be the least of the Kings' problems. After that, the parties will part ways and move on. But while everyone eventually gives up on Artest, tiring of the constant commotion, Petrie would be crazy to give him away. Let others go first. Artest is too valuable.

About the writer: Reach Ailene Voisin at (916) 321-1208 or avoisin@ sacbee.com
 
For a change, what she says makes good and complete sense to me. Ron Ron is our best player, IF and it's a big IF, he follows what the coach wants him to do on the offensive end. And at 6-7 Coach Theus can look him straight in the eye when he suggests he'll punch him in the nose if he doesn't do what he, the Coach wants (remember Jerry Reynolds/Coach and Theus 17 years ago??).

This, in effect is Ron Ron's contract year. If he wants to stay and earn big bucks, then he needs to play his butt off as the coach wants. Then the basketball world is his apple to pick, and we get a better team than we expect in a rebuild year.
 
I have one pretty big problem with her column and the subtle swipe she's taking at the team:

At least when Artest is present -- OK, when not suspended, pursuing his rap career, or otherwise engaged in whatever -- work ethic and on-court contributions are never the issues. He arrives early and stays late for practice. He performs even when less than 100 percent healthy. And at public appearances and in a Kings locker room that, within the league, is regarded as one of the most unaccommodating and inhospitable, the Queens, N.Y., native is surprisingly accessible and cooperative.

The Kings locker room is unaccommodating and inhospitable? Is she talking furnishings or players? Or could she still be bitter because after her treatment of Chris Webber and Rick Adelman she was pretty much banished from the team's private sanctuary?

:rolleyes:
 
I can't believe how incredibly stupid this whole offseason has become. Ron is the worst player to have in a rebuilding process, he needs to go and he needs to go now.
 
I can't believe how incredibly stupid this whole offseason has become. Ron is the worst player to have in a rebuilding process, he needs to go and he needs to go now.
At least there is only a year left on the deal, about the only positive spin.
 
I can't believe how incredibly stupid this whole offseason has become. Ron is the worst player to have in a rebuilding process, he needs to go and he needs to go now.

I think it's safe to say that a healthy and dominate Ron artificially boosts your win total by about 11 games, covering up for the deficiencies of the other guys and a crazy Ron is akin to a locker room chemistry nuclear explosion.That's why he is a great and entertaining athlete.

Either he is the reigning DPOY averaging 26 points closing in on the title or he keeps things interesting in a losing season.

It could be worse, Webber and Peja could still be here on the books looking to get traded, or coming back mediocre style.
 
I think it's safe to say that a healthy and dominate Ron artificially boosts your win total by about 11 games, covering up for the deficiencies of the other guys and a crazy Ron is akin to a locker room chemistry nuclear explosion.That's why he is a great and entertaining athlete.

Either he is the reigning DPOY averaging 26 points closing in on the title or he keeps things interesting in a losing season.

It could be worse, Webber and Peja could still be here on the books looking to get traded, or coming back mediocre style.

This is NOT going to turn into another discussion of Webber and/or Peja. Period. Just a word to the wise.
 
Artest will help the team. He will improve the defense, respect Reggie Theus (he thought little of Eric Musselman), and well into another season, behave on and off the court. He will be the least of the Kings' problems. After that, the parties will part ways and move on. But while everyone eventually gives up on Artest, tiring of the constant commotion, Petrie would be crazy to give him away. Let others go first. Artest is too valuable
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Why do we think that he is going to help our defense this year when he did not help it last year? Maybe with a different coach, the outcome will be different. I hope so.
 
Well, there's one year left if he opts out, which would be handy since, without that, we'd have no money at all for Kevin.

But what if he fails to raise his stock this year, or hurts it again? He might realize that he's not going to get better than $8M elsewhere, and decide to stay in Sac.

So either Ron has a great year, on & off the court, or we are forced to trade someone for an ender, or we lose Kevin. I don't see how the numbers can work out otherwise. (If someone else does, please correct me.)
 
I don't follow how you think we'll lose Martin because of Ron Artest. And I don't think there's a scenario where that has a logical chance of happening.
 
I don't follow how you think we'll lose Martin because of Ron Artest. And I don't think there's a scenario where that has a logical chance of happening.

Simple. Kevin hasn't signed an extension, and there's nothing in the budget at this point to make room for one. With the addition of Mikki Moore, and a few benchwarmers at minimum to fill out the roster, our payroll budget is about $64M, meaning that we have no cap space. A year from now, unless Artest opts out, our payroll will be even higher, and Kevin will be a restricted FA.
 
Simple. Kevin hasn't signed an extension, and there's nothing in the budget at this point to make room for one. With the addition of Mikki Moore, and a few benchwarmers at minimum to fill out the roster, our payroll budget is about $64M, meaning that we have no cap space. A year from now, unless Artest opts out, our payroll will be even higher, and Kevin will be a restricted FA.

Chances are pretty good Kevin will get his extension this summer. He's a current player. Worst case scenario and the Maloofs MIGHT have to pony up some luxury tax money but we won't be precluded from keeping him because of $$.
 
Someone please explain to me how Ron Artest benefits our rebuilding movement.

A possible answer and NOT one I necessarily believe or disbelieve:

Artest is one of the best defensive players in the league. On a team of younger players, he could be helpful in teaching them defensive skills. And, contrary to what some might want, we aren't going to totally blow up the team. So, off-court problems aside, Artest is actually one of the better deals around right now as his salary isn't one of the major problems we have to address. Miller, Bibby and Thomas are...
 
A possible answer and NOT one I necessarily believe or disbelieve:

Artest is one of the best defensive players in the league. On a team of younger players, he could be helpful in teaching them defensive skills. And, contrary to what some might want, we aren't going to totally blow up the team. So, off-court problems aside, Artest is actually one of the better deals around right now as his salary isn't one of the major problems we have to address. Miller, Bibby and Thomas are...


+1 million. I honestly remember that Ron apparently taught Justin and Quincy a lot of stuff about defense after practices and stuff last year or whatever. I remember Quincy saying that he worked with them and stuff on one of the halftime shows I think.

I know a lot of you want the Kings to blow up the team, maybe that's what they should do. But even if we make a couple trades this year, that's not what's going to happen. That's not how Petrie operates. Not in Portland and not here. He built the last good team by getting cap space, making trades, and making wise picks with the draft picks he did have. When he was in Portland he didn't tank it to build that team. He made trades(Buck Williams, Kevin Duckworth) and drafted well(Drexler, Porter, Jerome Kersey).

Right now Ron's not hurting our salary cap plan. He's an expiring for sure in the next 2 years. You guys don't even know if Geoff can get "enders+picks+kids" back for Ron. A lot of teams aren't going to give all that up for Ron. They're not taking Kenny's albatross contract in return, giving 13-15 million$ of expiring contracts(which is the only thing that makes it worth it for us considering Ron's expiring anyway), and giving up half of their future(picks+"kids") for Ron. NY wanted to give us freaking Jeffries and lower level young talent. That doesn't help us at all. So would you want Petrie to pull the trigger on a trade like that that doesn't help our salary cap, doesn't get us promising young players back, and doesn't get rid of Kenny just so he can say "I traded Ron"? I know for sure that I wouldn't.
 
Chances are pretty good Kevin will get his extension this summer. He's a current player. Worst case scenario and the Maloofs MIGHT have to pony up some luxury tax money but we won't be precluded from keeping him because of $$.

Well, I'm not a good enough rules + CBA lawyer to find that sort of loophole when we're several million over cap. If you can find one, I will happily stop worrying along these lines.
 
The deal is the NBA has a soft cap. That means you can exceed it, subject to penalty (luxury tax). How do you think the Knicks have been able to have a salary in the $100 millions?

It's not a loophole. It's a fact of life. The primary reason for the salary cap is not, BTW, to preclude teams from re-signing their own players. It really comes into effect when teams are attempting to hire free agents. In those situations, the cap becomes "hard" and you cannot exceed it.

I've recommended this site numerous times, but here it is again. Everything you could possibly want to know about the CBA:

http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#1

The basic idea is that a team can only sign a free agent if the total payroll for the team will not exceed the salary cap.
 
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Yeah, I had actually looked over that FAQ a fair amount before posting my reply, wondering if some sort of exception could be found. Because I know that the Maloofs hate the luxury tax, and only paid any when a championship seemed within sight. Right before replacing Vlade with Ostertag, Joe Maloof said, "I think we'd like to keep our salary around what the luxury tax threshold is. It's such a harsh thing. It's so penalizing." And that's been the rule ever since. We did all sorts of crazy transactions to avoid luxury tax -- stuff like trading Keon plus a draft pick to Utah in return for nothing. It seems to have been the one constant in our personnel policies over the last 3-4 years.

The Knicks don't have much to worry about, their huge market allows them to make money even when they're a terrible and overpaid team -- which is nothing like Sac's situation. It may be that the Maloofs won't mind paying Kevin $11M a year, and forking over another several million a year in luxury tax, with absolutely no hope of a championship in sight, but I'm not prepared to take that for granted at this point.
 
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Yeah, I had actually looked over that FAQ a fair amount before posting my reply, wondering if some sort of exception could be found. Because I know that the Maloofs hate the luxury tax, and only paid any when a championship seemed within sight. Right before replacing Vlade with Ostertag, Joe Maloof said, "I think we'd like to keep our salary around what the luxury tax threshold is. It's such a harsh thing. It's so penalizing." And that's been the rule ever since. We did all sorts of crazy transactions to avoid luxury tax -- stuff like trading Keon plus a draft pick to Utah in return for nothing. It seems to have been the one constant in our personnel policies over the last 5 years.

The Knicks don't have much to worry about, their huge market allows them to make money even when they're a terrible and overpaid team -- which is nothing like Sac's situation. It may be that the Maloofs won't mind paying Kevin $11M a year, and forking over another several million a year in luxury tax, with absolutely no hope of a championship in sight, but I'm not prepared to take that for granted at this point.

If it wasn't for NY, the luxery tax deterent wouldn't be nearly as big a deal. NY keeps the amount redistributed to the teams under the cap something to think about. Appearantly there where only five teams over the tax limit this year with NY accounting for the great majority of the tax amount due. As more teams treat the tax cap as a hard cap, it might become a little more palatable to exceed it (which starts the whole cycle over again).
 
This would be amusing if it weren't so sad.

But you know what? Answers a lot of questions. Settles a lot of debates. When your offseason, universally ackowledged as absolutely pivotal, for the team and GM, devolves into second choice coaches, whoever is left draft picks, Mikki Moore signings, and circling the wagons around Ron Artest after his 1359th suspension and "I'm sowwy!", hey, what you gonna say?

Welcome to 1992.
 
Someone please explain to me how Ron Artest benefits our rebuilding movement.

Well, if he "acts up" again, he'll probably get suspended for the year. Then we won't have our starting 3, so our record will get worse, making for a higher draft pick. AND, because he will have ZERO trade value for the following year, we either eat his contract, in which we get nothing for him, or we start the process all over again next year...

If by a miracle, Artest does not end up suspended or in jail, he should assist the young players in their character development.;) And help Theus in supporting his authoritiy as a coach.;) And he's a good lockeroom guy.;)
 
This would be amusing if it weren't so sad.

But you know what? Answers a lot of questions. Settles a lot of debates. When your offseason, universally ackowledged as absolutely pivotal, for the team and GM, devolves into second choice coaches, whoever is left draft picks, Mikki Moore signings, and circling the wagons around Ron Artest after his 1359th suspension and "I'm sowwy!", hey, what you gonna say?

Welcome to 1992.
I knew I saw Garry St Jean hanging around again...and Rod Higgins...and Walt Williams...gonna be a FUN next couple of years.:(
 
I have one pretty big problem with her column and the subtle swipe she's taking at the team:



The Kings locker room is unaccommodating and inhospitable? Is she talking furnishings or players? Or could she still be bitter because after her treatment of Chris Webber and Rick Adelman she was pretty much banished from the team's private sanctuary?

:rolleyes:

I think she's talking about the furnishings. I've read other mentions of Arco's antiquated locker rooms.

I heard they even made one guy keep his stuff in a garbage bag! :p
 
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