Udrih vs. Singletary

#31
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Originally Posted by CruzDude

Beno is #1 for next few years.

"I've got my fingers crossed hoping he is not."

To me, thats hoping for failure.
I can see how you read it that way. What I meant was that I've got my fingers crossed that he is not our #1 for the next few years a.k.a Petrie lands us an upper tier PG via trade/draft.
 

bajaden

Hall of Famer
#32
I can see how you read it that way. What I meant was that I've got my fingers crossed that he is not our #1 for the next few years a.k.a Petrie lands us an upper tier PG via trade/draft.
I'll accept that. I personally hope that Beno improves to the point that there's no question that he's the pt guard of the future. Stocton, Malone.... Beno, Thompson.... Hey, I can dream can't I?:rolleyes:
 
#33
Been watching some video of McCalebb and also of Zabian Dowdell. Both of them look like they can play a little bit. Its always amazing to see how talented some of the players that can't make it in the NBA are. Shows how tough the league is.
That's why it makes me mad when we draft a (college bench player) SF that has no realistic chance of making the team, being that's our most strong spot. Makes absolutely no sense why we did that. There are plenty of talented players that we passed on which should have got the chance.

I was probably correct in saying there was 300 college players more deserving then Ewing Jr. Ok maybe not 300 but you get the point.

Everyone catch Chalmers, and CDR for New Jersey, and Miami? DANG!!!! Those two will succeed.
 

VF21

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SME
#34
Don't necessarily count Ewing out quite so quickly. But that's a bit off-topic.

;)

Congrats, DirtyAcre. You're half-way there. Now that Sean's been signed, all we have to do is actually see him step on an NBA court to be able to begin the comparisons to Beno.

Peace.
 

Spike

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#35
Are 2nd rounders signed to some sort of perfunctory deal, conditional upon them making the team in the fall, or is it a guaranteed contract? Or is it on a case-by-case situation?
 

Kingster

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#36
I agree with the premise that 2nd round picks can definitely amount to something, but Sessions fell far in that draft and arguably had early 2nd round type talent--he was 6'3", was a pure point guard and really showed his passing skills (at least in his freshman year; I think his lack of assist in his junior year really, really hurt his stock). At least he showed real precocious passing talent at a young age, so although I was surprised he was a late contributor to the Bucks, I wasn't overly surprised that he was able to muster a 22-assist game. Sometimes it just takes the talent surrounding you to unleash the true passing ability.

Singletary on the other hand is a scorer through and through--no one will ever confuse him as a pass-first type point guard. He's not a shooting guard in a point guard's body because he actually does have some latent PG skills, but it's not to the point where it's a good or elite level in the NBA; probably just an average passer by PG standards. Unlike Sessions, who had the height/passing combination to really thrive in the NBA, Singletary's scoring abilities are commonplace--can be found in almost any undersized SG trying to make the league. He's less of a sure thing to break out because of that. That's why I keep emphasizing, he needs to show something different from what he did in college. Obviously I can't make any judgments until summer league, but hopefully he can develop a go-to asset that will help him long term.
My understanding is that Singletary had lousy talent around him in college. Not only would his assists be down because of that fact, but also I heard tell his coach told him to look to shoot the ball a lot. I don't think height is a huge factor for a point guard. Quickness certainly is. From what I've seen on video, he has that. He's going to be an interesting guy to watch.
 
#37
I hope that Sean can make the team. When Beno is injured (he will be out at least a few games, most all starters are), hopefully, he and Quincy can run the point a little bit. I would really just want Sean can get some perspective and insight from, whom I see as an awesome playmaking guard in Beno and improve his skills.
 
#38
Singletary on the other hand is a scorer through and through--no one will ever confuse him as a pass-first type point guard. He's not a shooting guard in a point guard's body because he actually does have some latent PG skills, but it's not to the point where it's a good or elite level in the NBA; probably just an average passer by PG standards.
As a guest just lurking, thought I'd add some relative stats to counter this statement. Singletary averaged 6.1 assists/game (6.7 a/40 min played) and had a high turnover number, around 4, but from watching the entire season, a couple of those were great passes that the UVa player would fumble and turnover. In a team where he was asked to be the offense, he put up great assist numbers. That 6.1 apg was #3 in the NCAA last year. So, just because he scored 19 ppg, didn't mean his assist number was low or that his vision and passing was bad. With NBA talent on the court, his assist numbers will rise and the turnovers will go down. Can't wait to see his first summer league game!
 
#39
Congrats, DirtyAcre. You're half-way there. Now that Sean's been signed, all we have to do is actually see him step on an NBA court to be able to begin the comparisons to Beno.

Peace.
All Beno has to do is stay on the court for a full year to make my comparisons moot.

When did I ever compare their games? Link please?

Appears I'm still half way more successful than bringing back the black uniforms.:rolleyes:
 

VF21

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#40
All Beno has to do is stay on the court for a full year to make my comparisons moot.

When did I ever compare their games? Link please?

Appears I'm still half way more successful than bringing back the black uniforms.:rolleyes:
??? Got a permit to carry that grudge?
 
H

HooDude18

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#41
Kingster said:
My understanding is that Singletary had lousy talent around him in college
In my opinion, thats very true and im a huge UVA fan. During his junior year he had the help of J.R. Reynolds and Jason Cain (both are now playing pro in Europe) and they won the ACC regular season championship and were 4 points away from going to the Sweet 16. That was probably his best season at UVA.

Although he played just as well this year, he had no help at all. He was asked to carry the load the whole game and alot of the time he couldnt do it.

Yet, statistically he is the best player in ACC history.

Congrats Kings, yall got a great player and a new fan

My 2nd favorite team now...behind Cleveland :)
 
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#42
$$ played extremely well yesterday, his stats would have reflected this, but Vegas League has crappy refs. Also, there were a few jumpers missed on his dimes. I think he will be a great backup to Beno. Beno is smart and has experience running this team during the season, so they may be similarly talented but Beno gets the nod due to experience.

Singletary= solid pick.