Tyreke Wants NO?

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Former NBA Rookie of the Year Tyreke Evans is ready for a change of scenery, according to sources familiar with his thinking.
Sources told ESPN.com on Wednesday that Evans, frustrated by the state of negotiations with the Sacramento Kings as a restricted free agent, is determined to leave the organization and plans to sign an offer sheet with the New Orleans Pelicans on the first allowable day.


Although the Pelicans are technically still waiting for Evans to verbally commit to signing the offer sheet, sources close to the situation regard that as "an inevitability" by week's end. Evans would then formally sign the four-year, $44 million offer sheet on July 10 when the league's annual moratorium on signings and trades is lifted, after which Sacramento will have three days to either match or pass on the offer to the restricted free agent.
The Kings' position on matching such an offer to Evans appears to be in flux after Sacramento elected Tuesday to pull a four-year, $52 million offer to Denver free-agent swingman Andre Iguodala off the table. Earlier Tuesday, ESPN.com reported that the Kings had made signing Iguodala their top free-agent priority, which appeared to suggest that Evans was expendable, especially after last week's selection of Ben McLemore with the seventh overall pick in the draft.
Yet one source close to the situation said Wednesday that Evans feels disrespected that new Kings owner Vivek Ranadive had yet to make any formal offer aimed at retaining him.
The source said: "They are stalling and he feels he has no choice. If they had shown loyalty to him earlier, he probably would have stayed there. He wasn't trying to leave, but now he feels as though he has to."

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9448966/sources-tyreke-evans-wants-join-new-orleans-pelicans
 
Uncia03

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The thing is...this report does not remotely jive with what we heard coming out of the meeting he had with Vivek/DA/Malone in LA the other day.

The source for this report is "sources familiar with his thinking". What does that even mean?

At this point I'm not going to believe any national writer regarding this situation...and will wait to see how it plays out.
 
HndsmCelt

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How nice of the NO PR machine to try and poison the water so that Tyreke HAS to take their offer. Nice try unnamed sources.
 
Bricklayer

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I don't particularly believe this...yet. But it does underscore the potential danger of ****ing around with this too long. Ok yes yes the front office has training wheels on, and Pete D wanted to go chase a guy he already knew in Andre Igoudala. Willing to let that play out. Good player. But there is quite literally not a single other player we're realistically in play for on the free agent market as good for us as Tyreke. Hence no reason to **** around until something like this article says becomes a reality. Telling Reke to hang on a second while you go investigate something is one thing. Leaving him dangling in the wind while you run around desperately seeing what else you can get instead is insulting.
 
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Jason Jones ‏@mr_jasonjones 7m
Tyreke Evans is stil waiting on the Kings to make him an offer before committing to New Orleans.

Jason Jones ‏@mr_jasonjones 6m
Evans can agree to sign the offer sheet, the Kings can still match it. Wants to give Kings every chance to make an offer better than N.O.
 
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sidney said:
Jason Jones ‏@mr_jasonjones 6m
Evans can agree to sign the offer sheet, the Kings can still match it. Wants to give Kings every chance to make an offer better than N.O.
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Its not just that Jones is an idiot. Its that he's a persistent idiot who apparently does not learn.

Yo Jason! Its called restricted free agency -- the Kings don't HAVE to make a better offer. In fact why would they when they can match?
 
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Bricklayer said:
Its not just that Jones is an idiot. Its that he's a persistent idiot who apparently does not learn.

Yo Jason! Its called restricted free agency -- the Kings don't HAVE to make a better offer. In fact why would they when they can match?
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Yeah really not getting why anyone thinks the kings would come in with a bigger deal at this point
 
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sidney said:
Jason Jones ‏@mr_jasonjones 7m
Tyreke Evans is stil waiting on the Kings to make him an offer before committing to New Orleans.

Jason Jones ‏@mr_jasonjones 6m
Evans can agree to sign the offer sheet, the Kings can still match it. Wants to give Kings every chance to make an offer better than N.O.
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heh

I hate our beat reporter...just doesn't seem to have any idea what he's talking about.

It sounds as if from his point of view 'making an offer better' implies that we should offer Tyreke more than NO.
But there is literally no reason for us to do that. We can match any offer that NO puts out provided that we don't add any huge pieces...and there isn't any way for NO to construct a deal that would prevent us from being able to match.

In addition....by the very nature of how the deals work...an offer that we match is going to end up being better for Tyreke in the long term because his next deal will be based on the salary of his final year...which will be higher if he stays with us rather than going to NO.

In my opinion the Kings already have a 'better offer' if the plan is to make him a cornerstone piece and put the ball in his hands as the lead guard. My guess he'd go for 10m/year with that option rather than an 11m/year option of playing off the bench or SF for NO.

*shakes his head*

I'm going back to what I mentioned earlier. I think it's entirely possible that the Kings FO don't actually believe that NO will ink that deal with Tyreke. If they do...our FO will match. If they don't...well then perhaps the Kings can get him for a bit less than that 11m/year.

But I do agree with Bricklayer...that the worry has to be that these guys are new at this...and if you try to be too smart...it could all blow up in your face. I'd personally feel a lot more comfortable if we just locked up Tyreke for 11m and then went about our business to get that extra great piece that the FO seems to want to acquire.
 
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annihilator_33 said:
Carmichael Dave ‏@CarmichaelDave 1m

Sources close to Tyreke Evans flat out refute ESPN report, still very open to resigning with Sacramento.

Carmichael Dave ‏@CarmichaelDave 26s Evans' camp, when asked about the ESPN report, responded at first with a simple "Not True".
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Dave also predicted Reke wouldn't be back two days ago, and that's based on the same sources he has now.

We'll just have to wait and see but Dave isn't much evidence of anything.

I do wonder though if Reke felt insulted that Vivek/PDA went all out trying to get Iggy yesterday, gave him an offer, when they still haven't made any offers to him. Yes they had the meeting which Reke left feeling good about, but the next day Vivek/PDA showed what their priority was and it sure wasn't Reke.
 
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I think I understand the article. It's saying that Evans wants the Kings to offer him a contract that is better than the one he's getting from NOLA, but they won't, so he feels like he has to sign NOLA's offer sheet in order to get the most money. However, his heart is still here in SAC, and he's genuinely afraid that the Kings won't match.
 
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rainmaker said:
Dave also predicted Reke wouldn't be back two days ago, and that's based on the same sources he has now.

We'll just have to wait and see but Dave isn't much evidence of anything.

I do wonder though if Reke felt insulted that Vivek/PDA went all out trying to get Iggy yesterday, gave him an offer, when they still haven't made any offers to him. Yes they had the meeting which Reke left feeling good about, but the next day Vivek/PDA showed what their priority was and it sure wasn't Reke.
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Dave is still predicting the same thing. I don't think my reports contradict each other.

Since you've been so hot under the collar about my "reporting", and if he ends up signing with NO, let me ask:

will you apologize? Or did I just get "lucky".

Sincerely,

really neat grassroots guy who knows nothing about basketball
 
rainmaker

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carmichaeldave said:
Dave is still predicting the same thing. I don't think my reports contradict each other.

Since you've been so hot under the collar about my "reporting", and if he ends up signing with NO, let me ask:

will you apologize? Or did I just get "lucky".

Sincerely,

really neat grassroots guy who knows nothing about basketball
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Apologize for questioning your predictions?

No.

Appreciate what you've done for the fanbase though.
 
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Jason Jones has been stuck on this idea that the Kings have to beat the NO offer which hasn't been signed or agreed to be Reke, BTW. He's wrong. Although I want Tyreke to be happy right now, no one in his camp should get their knickers in a bunch because the process takes a few days. If it comes to hard ball, I hope all parties understand that no matter what offer sheet he signs, we can match it and retain him. As of now, unless we renounce him, he will be a King.

I'm not sure what to believe and what not to believe with all this info coming from people living inside his brain or wherever they are but Jason Jones is not helping.

If he doesn't understand this one portion of the CBA, he should cover another sport.
 
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carmichaeldave said:
Dave is still predicting the same thing. I don't think my reports contradict each other.

Since you've been so hot under the collar about my "reporting", and if he ends up signing with NO, let me ask:

will you apologize? Or did I just get "lucky".

Sincerely,

really neat grassroots guy who knows nothing about basketball
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Hey! I used this same line here a few days ago, thief!

Edit: When questioned if I knew anything.
 
Arco Arena

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Oh no he's gone!

Tyreke has 17 teams interested in him!!

It's going to be a bidding war!!!

We're doomed!!!!


Don't believe the propaganda. Let's see the offers.

Should have been clear to Tyreke when the Kings offered the QO that they would just be sitting back and watching what the market offered him. So far there has been one unofficial offer from a team that wants to make him a 6th man and would need to drop assets for the chance to sign him.

Kings are in a strategic position, there is no reason for them to budge from their current position.
 
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sidney said:
Jason Jones ‏@mr_jasonjones 7m
Tyreke Evans is stil waiting on the Kings to make him an offer before committing to New Orleans.

Jason Jones ‏@mr_jasonjones 6m
Evans can agree to sign the offer sheet, the Kings can still match it. Wants to give Kings every chance to make an offer better than N.O.
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How the **** does this half wit still have a job? what a joke. Make a better offer?! They just have to match captain dip****. This guy is the single worst beat writer i have ever had the misfortune of seeing. Maybe he and Bucher feed eachother information.
 
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rainmaker

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cuad said:
I think I understand the article. It's saying that Evans wants the Kings to offer him a contract that is better than the one he's getting from NOLA, but they won't, so he feels like he has to sign NOLA's offer sheet in order to get the most money. However, his heart is still here in SAC, and he's genuinely afraid that the Kings won't match.
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Jason Jones ‏@mr_jasonjones 4m
FTR, Tyreke Evans is put off by lack of an offer, not being top priority, but not to the point he wouldn't play for the Kings.

Seems the issue is more a lack of an offer. Everyone knows we can match the NO deal, but if Vivek/PDA want him why not just offer the equivalent? Probably looking for the symbolic gesture.
 
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rainmaker said:
Dave also predicted Reke wouldn't be back two days ago, and that's based on the same sources he has now.

We'll just have to wait and see but Dave isn't much evidence of anything.

I do wonder though if Reke felt insulted that Vivek/PDA went all out trying to get Iggy yesterday, gave him an offer, when they still haven't made any offers to him. Yes they had the meeting which Reke left feeling good about, but the next day Vivek/PDA showed what their priority was and it sure wasn't Reke.
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First...I have no idea as to how these talks actually go. Is it a tense situation with the FO carefully choosing their words and Tyreke sort of staying behind his agent while Arm does all the talking...or is it a more relaxed atmosphere with the goal to change the culture and build a team that can compete?

I mean I consider myself a reasonably intelligent person...and if I were handling this situation with Tyreke and the goal was to keep him while trying to pick up a big name FA I'd have that conversation with him. Say "Look, the media isn't going to have any idea what they are talking about, so let's keep it real here. We want you on the team but we don't know how much we're going to be able to offer. We're going to go hard after a FA (Iggy) with the idea in mind to get him...while still having enough room to match or keep close what NO is offering. Our goal is to make next years team as good as it can be...and that includes you and hopefully one other impact player."
Then I'd ask to make sure he was fine with us going after a big name, and if he says 'Go for it.' Then I would.

I mean it's all speculation at this point. It's not the existing FO's fault that they are in this situation with Tyreke...as he should have been signed to an extension. And Tyreke can't sign an offer from the Kings until one is actually offered.
I'm going to believe that they are both on the same page until some sort of credible source indicates otherwise.
 
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rainmaker said:
Apologize for questioning your predictions?

No.

Appreciate what you've done for the fanbase though.
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I don't blame you for questioning me, I don't get free passes cause I'm a kings grassrooter. Hell, I know as well as anyone I could be wrong. But the insinuation is that I am reporting my opinion, and interjecting my agenda, whatever that is. By passive-aggressively attacking my track record, you attack my credibility and ethics. I pass on what I hear from trusted sources, and I don't get paid. I'm not running a blog, or trying to get Sulia hits. And I think my track record is pretty good. I've been wrong before, and I WILL be wrong again.

I just bruise a little when I report something someone may not like, and I instantly hate that player, or know nothing about basketball. And I have, nor will I ever, be some media guy in an ivory tower who claims he doesn't read the chat boards yet constantly refreshes them. I started on the chat boards. I read everything. And sometimes it bugs me.

That's all.
 
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