Twitter drama (split)
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jim and marcos basically called khtk the maloofs personal PR firm, which dave took execption too. dave then used grants typical lines against the bee about how they would kill the maloofs. dave was still trying to play nice as always but it got ugly. as long as Dave has a shot at working for the station he will always back grant and never call him out on backing the maloofs at every turn and never questioning them on air. my last day listening to grant was when he backed them not taking the arena deal citing that it wasnt a "fair deal" for the maloofs when everyone knew it was. and screaming at callers when they tried to refute. I personally think Vivek and co should clean house entirely from the maloof era and begin with a fresh start/new basketball ops and announcers.
Long history.
Going back to 2003 or 04 Marcos was trashing the Maloofs in his columns. Also at that time RE Graswich was taking pot shots as well. This did not sit well with the 1140 radio hosts like Grant Napear. Mostly because they were on the Maloof payroll. So it touched off a nasty war between the Bee and 1140.
Marcos seems to be on a kick lately to get some payback on 1140 for this since he feels vindicated for his treatment of the Maloofs. He even bashed 1140 for mentioning an upcoming MLS commish visit and not giving him credit as the source.
I got no dog in this fight because I used to criticize both 1140 and the Bee back in those days. They deserved it. The Bee was not only anti-Maloof. They were anti-arena and the Marcos and RE opinion articles reflected that often. 1140 and mostly Grant followed the Maloof party line to a very embarrassing level. And some of you may recall Grant directing some shots at KJ back in the Anaheim or bust days.
And now that the lay of the land is a little more clear. Both media outlets are doing a wonderful job. Although IMO, Marcos seems to think now is a great time to restart some of this conflict. Near as I can see, it's all about him. Meh...
Going back to 2003 or 04 Marcos was trashing the Maloofs in his columns. Also at that time RE Graswich was taking pot shots as well. This did not sit well with the 1140 radio hosts like Grant Napear. Mostly because they were on the Maloof payroll. So it touched off a nasty war between the Bee and 1140.
Marcos seems to be on a kick lately to get some payback on 1140 for this since he feels vindicated for his treatment of the Maloofs. He even bashed 1140 for mentioning an upcoming MLS commish visit and not giving him credit as the source.
I got no dog in this fight because I used to criticize both 1140 and the Bee back in those days. They deserved it. The Bee was not only anti-Maloof. They were anti-arena and the Marcos and RE opinion articles reflected that often. 1140 and mostly Grant followed the Maloof party line to a very embarrassing level. And some of you may recall Grant directing some shots at KJ back in the Anaheim or bust days.
And now that the lay of the land is a little more clear. Both media outlets are doing a wonderful job. Although IMO, Marcos seems to think now is a great time to restart some of this conflict. Near as I can see, it's all about him. Meh...
Sounds pretty much spot on JB.
The back and forth between 1140/Grant and the Bee is pretty well chronicled. The stuff with Koz is more under the radar, at least to me. It seems it really is less about Carmichael Dave and more about a grudge or resentment on Kozimor's part towards Napear about how things ended for him in Sacramento.
Strange timing on both counts.
The back and forth between 1140/Grant and the Bee is pretty well chronicled. The stuff with Koz is more under the radar, at least to me. It seems it really is less about Carmichael Dave and more about a grudge or resentment on Kozimor's part towards Napear about how things ended for him in Sacramento.
Strange timing on both counts.
I've heard that Grant and Koz have never had a good relationship. They both mentored Dave a lot. So I totally get the conflict for him.
My two cents. I'm ok with Grant staying on as TV play by play. But if new ownership wants to go in a new direction, then that's ok too. But I think one thing has to be done. Grant can't have both gigs like he does now. It's proven to create all sorts of conflict of interests. If he stays on TV. Then his radio show needs to go. Or at the very least morph into a Kings only promotional show. I know he feels comfortable talking football, baseball, etc. But not for the Kings station. He should move up and do a national show where the conflict would be minimized.
My two cents. I'm ok with Grant staying on as TV play by play. But if new ownership wants to go in a new direction, then that's ok too. But I think one thing has to be done. Grant can't have both gigs like he does now. It's proven to create all sorts of conflict of interests. If he stays on TV. Then his radio show needs to go. Or at the very least morph into a Kings only promotional show. I know he feels comfortable talking football, baseball, etc. But not for the Kings station. He should move up and do a national show where the conflict would be minimized.
exactly, Yes KHTK is independent of MSE/Kings but they basically run the place. The maloofs pay the bills around their as the biggest sponser so CBS has them cater to the maloofs. any new owner would also have a say in how things are run as well.
I think as strictly an announcer he is fine but with all of the maloof crap he ignored or screamed at callers for he should be taken off of the radio show.
it should be noted that the current warrior anouncers stayed thru the cohen era and were apparently worse than grant when it came to being fair about how bad the previous owner was. that should be a good sign for grant staying.
I think as strictly an announcer he is fine but with all of the maloof crap he ignored or screamed at callers for he should be taken off of the radio show.
it should be noted that the current warrior anouncers stayed thru the cohen era and were apparently worse than grant when it came to being fair about how bad the previous owner was. that should be a good sign for grant staying.
I remember the exact day/time beef between Koz and Grant started... Back in the day they used to host the afternoon show together, I believe it was called cross talk or something... One day Grant was gone, and Koz, a huge wrestling fan, supplemented much of the show with wrestling talk... Grant, believes wrestling is not a sport, thought it was embarassing, and Koz and Grant were basically arguing on air when Grant was back over this. That was the last episode of cross talk ever aired, and the last time the two were on air together.
Grant sold the community out by backing the slime over the arena deal, and shouldn't be hosting our sports radio due to this in my opinion. Whether or not he does the PBP I don't know
Grant sold the community out by backing the slime over the arena deal, and shouldn't be hosting our sports radio due to this in my opinion. Whether or not he does the PBP I don't know
I used to listen to Koz's show every night...I thought it was really good. But you could tell back then that he couldn't stand Grant. He wasn't blatant about it, but if Grant's name came up, he became very tight-lipped. I never knew what it was about, so I'm glad to find out.
As far as Grant is concerned, he's too irritable to do a radio show with callers. I literally can't listen to it. I think his PBP is very good.
As far as Grant is concerned, he's too irritable to do a radio show with callers. I literally can't listen to it. I think his PBP is very good.
I think Grant is in the top half of NBA announcers. I grew up listening to him, so I would like him to remain doing the games. We could get much much worse.
For whatever reason, he has decided that the point of his show is to be obstinate to one fan an hour minimum. He even has told people who called in asking him why he rants and yells, that when they have done their studies people like it. So that is why he does it. If you listen to him do Rome (coincidentally he did it today) he is much much different than on his own show. He is pretty knowledgeable about the four major sports. Also, he is very well liked and respected among his national colleagues. He is not getting asked back to Rome if he isn't.
I could do without his Radio show because of the above, but it doesn't really affect me.
For whatever reason, he has decided that the point of his show is to be obstinate to one fan an hour minimum. He even has told people who called in asking him why he rants and yells, that when they have done their studies people like it. So that is why he does it. If you listen to him do Rome (coincidentally he did it today) he is much much different than on his own show. He is pretty knowledgeable about the four major sports. Also, he is very well liked and respected among his national colleagues. He is not getting asked back to Rome if he isn't.
I could do without his Radio show because of the above, but it doesn't really affect me.
Grant turned his back on us the second he sided with the Maloofs after they cowardly backed out the arena deal.
He was our only voice and continued every day to defend those pieces of **** on the radio. Absolutely disgusting.
Only just recently has he joined our side.
Coincidentally it was the same time his job became in jeopardy.
Maloofs keep the team and move cities, he keeps his job. Maloofs sell the team, he is out on his ***..
You do the math.
Unforgivable.
Sacramento Kings fans are very sentimental. We pretty much love anybody who has been associated with this team with a few exceptions. I love the calls Grant has had over the years. He was a big part of this teams history. But to do what he did after the Anaheim BS, to defend the Thomas Robinson trade, the 2nd round pick for cash, and filter every caller who disagrees with him or bad mouths the Maloof family, I'm sorry I would be totally ok with cleaning house and starting fresh with this team.
He was our only voice and continued every day to defend those pieces of **** on the radio. Absolutely disgusting.
Only just recently has he joined our side.
Coincidentally it was the same time his job became in jeopardy.
Maloofs keep the team and move cities, he keeps his job. Maloofs sell the team, he is out on his ***..
You do the math.
Unforgivable.
Sacramento Kings fans are very sentimental. We pretty much love anybody who has been associated with this team with a few exceptions. I love the calls Grant has had over the years. He was a big part of this teams history. But to do what he did after the Anaheim BS, to defend the Thomas Robinson trade, the 2nd round pick for cash, and filter every caller who disagrees with him or bad mouths the Maloof family, I'm sorry I would be totally ok with cleaning house and starting fresh with this team.
he has defended every move even the obviously bad moves they have made over the past 6-7 years. the whole salary dump to go after free agents that never happend and he conviently stopped talking about, the constant defense of all of the bad head coaching hires, then kicking and blaming the coaches/players on their way out without a single mention of the real problem, the goofs.
in my opinion if he retains his show he will be the daily reminder of the maloof slime era, jason ross wouldnt slander the maloofs but he wouldnt go out of his way to shout down proponents either. he is much more tolerable.
you may be right, but not a single mention was made of petrie completely blowing that pick, along with the jimmer pick.
he went on and on about how he cant comment/have an opinion on jimmer because he needs a few years to blossom, yet he was able to determine T-rob a bust in half a year. he cant give anything close to real opinions, only opinions that help him avoid having to address the terrible ownership/GM.
he went on and on about how he cant comment/have an opinion on jimmer because he needs a few years to blossom, yet he was able to determine T-rob a bust in half a year. he cant give anything close to real opinions, only opinions that help him avoid having to address the terrible ownership/GM.
Grant as a talk show host was a complete mouthpiece of the organization to the extent that when he started to badmouth a player we all got the feeling a trade was in the wind. I don't mind that he can be caustic. I don't find it particularly endearing, but it doesn't bother me. But to be opinionated and outspoken but at the same time be taking marching orders from the team owners (all the while denying that he was doing exactly that mind you) is touch to swallow.
That being said, it was ALWAYS the case with Grant and his radio show. It wasn't nearly as insufferable before the notion of Anaheim came up. It was still a huge conflict of interest prior to that but we all kind of went along with it because his show was the only game in town for radio sports talk that focused on the Kings.
That being said, it was ALWAYS the case with Grant and his radio show. It wasn't nearly as insufferable before the notion of Anaheim came up. It was still a huge conflict of interest prior to that but we all kind of went along with it because his show was the only game in town for radio sports talk that focused on the Kings.
Actually, no. Grant has repeatedly said that that he didn't know what kind of player T-Rob would become, but that PP was a better player right now, and likely better overall. But he has said that T-Rob may ultimately be a better player in the future (although he didn't think so). Not disagreeing on some of the other stuff you said.
Grant actually has been semi critical of the T-Rob pick. When a few callers have asked about the draft he's consistently said take the best player available no matter who's at that position now. He said the T-Rob pick wasn't based on the best player they had on their board (lillard), but on other factors. Basically he said they blew last years pick.
i agreed with Capt. saying that the trade doesnt look so bad right now.
my point was "bust" may not be the exact word he used with t-rob, but IMO he was much more open to implying him a bust over jimmer(keeps saying we need to see more of jimmer to judge him when a judgement of T-rob was made so quickly.) who we have seen more of, again taking the easy road and kicking the player who has left town in the rear end upon exit. its just frustrating to see that it has become routine for him to do that, ie Kevin Martin, who is doing just fine i might add.
my point was "bust" may not be the exact word he used with t-rob, but IMO he was much more open to implying him a bust over jimmer(keeps saying we need to see more of jimmer to judge him when a judgement of T-rob was made so quickly.) who we have seen more of, again taking the easy road and kicking the player who has left town in the rear end upon exit. its just frustrating to see that it has become routine for him to do that, ie Kevin Martin, who is doing just fine i might add.
The multiple interviews/shows he had at the time of the trade reflected my comments. I didn't hear what he may have said last week (they have the damn A's games on all the time so I don't actually catch his show much anyways). The thought we got the better end of the trade but repeatedly said that TR could become a better player in the future. Not that he would, but could.