Trading for higher picks

[Jespher]

Several teams have expressed an interest in moving their lottery picks since Tuesday's drawing. The Kings would greatly expedite their rebuild if they could trade for an additional lottery pick this year without giving away future #1 picks. Interesting teams would be New York (#6), Milwaukee (#8), Portland (#13). Here's an idea, primarily focused on shipping out expiring contracts for draft picks and a bad contract.


First Trade Idea:

Kings Out:

Ron Artest
Francisco Garcia
Sheldon Williams

Kings In:

#6 2008 Pick
Zach Randolph

Why Kings do this? Getting an extra pick to speed up rebuilding while getting a back up PF who can rebound.

Why Kings don't do this? Francisco Garcia is a nice player whom the Kings have in mind for the future.

Why Knicks do this? To shed Zach Randolph's terrible contract

Why Knicks don't do this? Ron Artest might slow down D'antoni and Donnie Walsh remembers the Indiana Artest years.

Kings new Lineup (Resigning Udrich)

PG Beno Udrich/Russell Westbrook (#12 pick)
SG Kevin Martin/Quincy Douby
SF John Salmons/2nd Round Pick
PF #6 Pick/Zach Randolph/Mikki Moore/Shareef Abdur-Rahim
C Spencer Hawes/Brad Miller/Mikki Moore/Shareef Abdur-Rahim

 

[Vlade4GM]

#6 pick isn't worth taking on Randolph's horrible contract.

 

[Smills91]

#6 pick isn't worth taking on Randolph's horrible contract.

I am one of the most adamant Randolph haters..but if all we had to give up was Reef/Thomas for Randolph/#6 I'd HAVE To consider it.

Packaging #6/#12 with another asset might be enough to lure Miami to giving up one of Beasley/Rose at #2.

 

[beb0p]

No way Walsh will trade for Artest. Randolph's mega contract is just pocket change to the Dolan. Besides, Randolph's contract ends in 2011, making him an expiring in 2010 and major trade bait for Lebron James. They'd also like to give D'Antoni a chance to work his magic with Zach. The point is that the Knicks are in no hurry to get rid of him.

 

[Vlade4GM]

I am one of the most adamant Randolph haters..but if all we had to give up was Reef/Thomas for Randolph/#6 I'd HAVE To consider it.

Packaging #6/#12 with another asset might be enough to lure Miami to giving up one of Beasley/Rose at #2.

You take on Randolph and you can kiss any shot at cap space goodbye. I don't see Miami giving up the second pick for anything less than a young proven all-star.

 

[upinsmoke]

Randolph? Pfffft

 

[Gary]

I really can't see any of the top ten trading their picks. Unless someone doesn't fall to them.. Or if it's like the #4 for the #6 and some cash or something.

Or like the Foye/Roy trade where two teams work together to get who they want..

 

[vfettke]

I really can't see any of the top ten trading their picks. Unless someone doesn't fall to them.. Or if it's like the #4 for the #6 and some cash or something.

Or like the Foye/Roy trade where two teams work together to get who they want..

i just threw up in my mouth a little bit

Randolph? Are you kidding? No thanks. If the Kings wanted to sign someone that fat, useless, and unathletic they could hire me, and I'd take the league minimum.

 

[Gary]

i just threw up in my mouth a little bit

Randolph? Are you kidding? No thanks. If the Kings wanted to sign someone that fat, useless, and unathletic they could hire me, and I'd take the league minimum.

Huh? Why did you quote me for that? I didn't mention Randolph, and I would never want him here

 

[Bricklayer]

I am one of the most adamant Randolph haters..but if all we had to give up was Reef/Thomas for Randolph/#6 I'd HAVE To consider it.

Packaging #6/#12 with another asset might be enough to lure Miami to giving up one of Beasley/Rose at #2.

I agree, that would be something you would probably just have to do. Not only getting back a functional player, but another lottery pick as well. Hard to imagine New York doing that though. You can make arguments for it, but it is SO incredibly lopsided from a talent perspective that Walsh would have to hire a bodyguard just to walk to work every morning.

 

[Jespher]

I am one of the most adamant Randolph haters..but if all we had to give up was Reef/Thomas for Randolph/#6 I'd HAVE To consider it.

Packaging #6/#12 with another asset might be enough to lure Miami to giving up one of Beasley/Rose at #2.

What does Reef or Thomas have to do with this post? The only way possibel for the Kings to trade for another lottery pick would be to give up expiring contacts or elite players. Do you really think the Knicks woul want to take on Thomas' and/or Shareef's long term deals for a #6 pick that wil be an elite player? Sure Zach Randolph has a bad contract, but that's the sacrifice for trading for e #6 pick...

 

[vfettke]

Huh? Why did you quote me for that? I didn't mention Randolph, and I would never want him here

Like I said, I threw up in my mouth a little bit. During the ensuing grossness I must have accidentally quoted you instead of the OP. I apologize.

 

[bajaden]

I don't like Randolph. I never have, and I don't want him on my team. Having said that, I remember when I didn't like Weber and didn't want him on my team. So, I guess miracles can happen. To me the best way to trade up is to find a team that just doesn't want to add another player, and you trade a future 1st for a 1st in this years draft.

 

[ovrush]

Sadly we don't have anything on our roster worth a lottery pick that isn't Kevin Martin. Basically our tradeable assets:

Ron Artest - Medium value, questionable character and terrible history means the best we'll probly get is the trade exemption and lottery pick that phoenix offered last year... too bad that is no longer an option as Artest can potentially leave for free and Phoenix doesn't have the exemption anymore. Looking around the league I can't think of many situations where he fits with Isaiah out of New York and Miami rebuilding. He probly only fits with Phoenix or Dallas now.

Brad Miller - old and overpaid. Had a good season and could be valuable in the right place/system but the best we could get back for him is probly expirings, a late future first,b or a youngster who has underperformed and is looking like a bust, kinda like the Bibby trade.

John Salmons - Played ok as a started was pretty bad off the bench. I don't see him having tons of value.


The good kids - Cisco/KMart/Spencer - they all have value but I don't see how getting rid of youth suits a rebuild.

The bad kids - Douby - probly zero trade value as he's shown very little to support him being in the league.

Ultimately, we've made our bed. The only way to change the roster is through a fire sale for bad players with short contracts (would also net us a better lotto pick than 10-12), or underperforming young guys. It's going to be a long hard wait until 2010 when we finally have some cap space, and even then GP is going to have to strike gold again with a guy like Vlade because no top tier guys will want to come to a losing team in a small market unless their overpayed, and with Bird rights the way they are, the home team can always overpay more than anyone else.