Nah. Monte bringing CoJo home again! We do need a 3rd pg...
Trade Deadline Thread
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Nah. Monte bringing CoJo home again! We do need a 3rd pg...
steelevt
All-Star
I think we cant trade any of the pacers pieces with another player for a few months. Has to be traded by himself or with picks I think.
@funkykingston and @Rain man are probably right. The wording doesnt sound like it would be for grant. Its probably olynyk. That would be too easy. Id be down though for olynyk for bagley straight up, BUT id rather have bagley and Lamb on this team till the end of the year and use their combines $20M off the books to chase Bobby portis and Yuta Watanabe in the off season. Portis at 4 next to sabonis makes more sense for the future and Yuta is flexible with good defense to play 2/3/4.
There's been a fair bit of speculation here about a trade w/the Hornets centered on Holmes and PJ Washington. Makes sense to me. But here's another possibility based on the fact that the Kings want to push hard for the playoffs and the Hornets may want to clear out older vets to make room for more of their talented youngsters, including PJ.
Hornets get a keeper in Holmes, two relatively short commitments in Bags and Moe, and move Hayward, who just doesn't fit the Melo-Bridges-Washington-Thor-Kai timeline AND takes away shots. Meanwhile, Kings go ALL in on the playoff push w/another wing who can reduce Fox's playmaking responsibilities while also helping to space the floor.
Sabonis
Hayward
HB
Fox
Davion/Holliday
Hornets get a keeper in Holmes, two relatively short commitments in Bags and Moe, and move Hayward, who just doesn't fit the Melo-Bridges-Washington-Thor-Kai timeline AND takes away shots. Meanwhile, Kings go ALL in on the playoff push w/another wing who can reduce Fox's playmaking responsibilities while also helping to space the floor.
Sabonis
Hayward
HB
Fox
Davion/Holliday
Are you sure about that? I dont think thst is true here because why would there then be tslk about reddish being moved again and buddy being moved (although pacers seem to have shut that down).
NewArena
All-Star
WHOA! Finally. Seems like a nice kid but it's time to move on, especially with Sabonis being a not that much older, far better version of him on every level. Plus, Bagley always ends up choosing to sign with Detroit on my 2K video game so clearly this was meant to be.
NewArena
All-Star
In McNair we trust!?
He can be traded, but he'd have to be the only player going out in that trade.
O0chieboomboom
G-League
COJO is coming back to save our season!? Lol
I think Grant-Sabonis at the 4/5 would be pretty good. Very similar in style to how Grant-Jokic worked in Denver.
The bigger problem is he and Barnes are drastically better at the 4 than the 3 at this point in their careers. And I'm incredibly hesitant about trading a first, although it's not horrible value if it's just Bagley+Filler+protected FRP for Grant.
steelevt
All-Star
They can be moved again but not with another player. By themselves or I think with a pick. That’s how the blazers moved NAW and satoransky
Entity
Hall of Famer
Bagley and Holmes no picks works also
Section 101
All-Star
It depends if the salaries were aggregated.
I'm gonna be disappointed if we hold onto Holmes. Now's the best time to get another asset out of him before he goes back to being a bench big. Plus, I'd be lying if I said I'm not a little worried that Gentry is going to try starting him next to Sabonis.
Entity
Hall of Famer
Yeah I was over Holmes last year. He isn’t that great on defense. Not a jump out at you rebounder and had to be completely propped up offensively but a guy we just traded lol
TaxMan
Starter
I can absolutely see them trying to get cute and putting Sabonis at the 4 and Holmes at the 5 and we end up with crap all the way around. Sabonis needs to be a 5 and, if he's still on the team, Holmes needs to be the backup. We at least got rid of Tristan, but one way or the other we need to lose one more center off of this roster by tomorrow.
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
If Monte can come away with a Barnes/Grant/Sabonis frontline he gets an A+ from me for effort.
Jones and Len can easily fill the backup center role, which makes Holmes our most expendable trade chip who's likely to bring back a missing piece to the puzzle.
kb02
All-Star
If Holmes is here, his best role as the Kings first bench big. He would thrive in that role too.
LPKingsFan
All-Star
Could Monte get his guy after all?
100% down for a Holmes-DDV swap.
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
But was that Monte's guy or just something they could have gotten in return for Bogdan who they didn't want? This is the type of thing where you just wait. He's got a QO next summer, if you want him offer him the MLE and he's probably yours anyway. No need to give up assets. The go get him at this deadline is Jerami Grant.
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
I don't think that's the case, haha. I'm sure they realize a Buddy that's being used right is a positive gain. Didn't Carlisle want Buddy when he was in Dallas?
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
To be fair, Carlisle has a long history of wanting guys and then freaking out when it turns out they have personalities.
I don't watch Detroit so know not much about Grant and a google search of 'Is Jerami Grant a good player' provided a classic 'Yes but...' answer. At this stage I think hold on to the pick and trade Holmes. I think Metu and MBIII are reasonable fits next to Sabonis on offence as they tend to score more from catch and shoot, offensive rebounding, and finishing from others creation. Having said that, although improved, MBIII still not that impactful on defence and seems he is likely to be moved.
